A nice, fairly large candle...and she seemed appreciative. She lit it immediately, even though she already had a bunch of small candles going. She thanked me at the end of the session, too.
And I have went so far as to buy things for certain ladies, or gave them cash cuz they were in a bind.
An Armani necklace comes to mind, as well as toys for some other ladies, and sending cash and gift cards cuz I was feeling generous at the time.
Did it cuz I wanted to and didn't expect anything in return. Was told they'd make it up next session and I said 'No, it's a gift. Haven't you ever got anything from someone without them wanting something in return?' They said 'yes', but the look in their eyes said 'no'.
I posted the following comments to a thread about NCNS (NYC Board) and another one about late cancelations (General Discussion):
My reply concerned the "downstream" consequences on future arrangements. I wrote:
Gifts gone bad I've had too many NCNS and very late cancellations, even from those I've seen before and who know me.
As a consequence, I've stopped bringing pricey, potentially embarrassing gifts: lingerie, toys, women's clothing, feminine things, etc.. It takes time and effort (and maybe some humiliation!) for a guy (this guy, anyway) to shop for some of that stuff and then to be left "holding the bag" when I have to be someplace else two or three hours later does not work. I've given stuff away to homeless people or "lost" some items on the subway just so I don't have to explain myself when I show up at a meeting with friends or for business later that day or night.
I know that many ladies say that it takes time to prepare for a meeting, whether it's a 1-hour or multi-hour date. SAME FOR US GUYS. We have to fiddle schedules, sometimes travel long distances to an incall, shop!, etc.. A last minute cancellation or NCNS by either party costs more than one hour of inconvenience.
Maybe I should be using an alias, but I can't take a couple of hours to get to a "safe" Victoria's Secret, department store (Macy's, Saks, ...) or an adult "toy store" where I can buy something SAFELY (no onee to recognize me) and then have to toss it away because of an NCNS or even a late call no show. I often have to be someplace else (friends or business) after a meeting and I can't show up with stuff that is very out of the ordinary for me to be lugging around. To the ladies I would like to gift with things to make them smile and appreciative, I'm sorry. But now you know why. (I sometimes bring more innocuous, funny things.)
I once brought some fancy food that I ended up eating partly by myself and giving the rest to a homeless person. But even that is a waste of time and money when my post-arrangement plans include a meal with friends or a business meal.
A nice, fairly large candle...and she seemed appreciative. She lit it immediately, even though she already had a bunch of small candles going. She thanked me at the end of the session, too.
A nice, fairly large candle...and she seemed appreciative. She lit it immediately, even though she already had a bunch of small candles going. She thanked me at the end of the session, too.
I have though gave several gifts out though for ladies I have repeated with. To name a few:
Flowers-I know her kid loves flower.
Cheap silver necklace with a small elephant pendant bought at Walmart- she collected elephants.
Two bottles of Fanta from Spain- It was from her home country, one not easy to find in this country and she told me she missed. $1 a bottle, $20 shipping. Got the wrong flavor, she appreciated the thought anyway.
Books- several times, they said they liked to read.
A stuffed animal- for a lady's kid that has been sick.
A Christmas ornament- It was Christmas time.
Notice that all but the ornament it was personalized. Sometimes I got it wrong but they all seemed to appreciate the effort.
A tomato plant- She said she liked to garden and like tomatos
To the girls I regularly see. I normally inquire about her taste in wine. As a sommelier I know where to get high end bottles at wholesale cost. Normally, I try to keep it in the $45-$75 range (wholesale cost) that amounts to $90-$200 restaurant costs.
Other than that I have given one of my ATFs a Mt. Blanc Medium point fountain pen. That was a special occasion though. Normally, gift certificates to practical places like whole foods, starbucks, Petsmart. Normally between $25-$50 depending on my financial situation at the time.
I have received all kinds of gifts lingerie,toys,shoes,jewelry.Every gift I receive makes me smile they are unexpected and I really appreciate a gentleman taking the time and thought to do this.I am a avid reader I had a gentleman inquire what my favorite author was and he bought like 5 books that were recent by that author. The gift does not have to be expensive just a token of your appreciation for a lady shows that you went over and beyond what is expected.
Thank you for the helpful response... It's always been one of those things that make me ask... Do I on the first encounter?
For a repeat.. I think No Doubt..
Posted By: jaydalee
I have received all kinds of gifts lingerie,toys,shoes,jewelry.Every gift I receive makes me smile they are unexpected and I really appreciate a gentleman taking the time and thought to do this.I am a avid reader I had a gentleman inquire what my favorite author was and he bought like 5 books that were recent by that author. The gift does not have to be expensive just a token of your appreciation for a lady shows that you went over and beyond what is expected.
That is what I usually give. A $25-50 gift card to a store because afterall, they are a female and ALL females love to shop!! On a rare occation, I also have given lingere, like at a special meeting which seems to go over very well.
.... Lately, I am beginning to feel that what I have done in the past has been on the overboard side of the tipping world and probably not considered personal enough in nature by the women that i drag through the dirty deed and should therefore be reconsidered.
And, sometimes, neither. I don't even know why. But here are the kind of gifts I've brought: 1) Wine. Usually no more than $15 per bottle. I check on their site and it often will say what type. The first time I did it I brought white wine I'd chilled first. She said, "Wow! No one ever did that before." Love/lust at first sight. 2) A book. Usually something funny and sexy, like Chelsea Handler's "My Horizontal Life." 3) Something from a far-away place I know she likes. If you're traveling and know you'll be seeing an ATF, pick up souvenir. Of course, if you've got an SO, she may think it's for her and nab it. 4) Something unusual. One gal I'm going to see for the first time is a motorhead. So I got her something at a race track I know she'll love. Can't say what it is because she knows my handle and might read this. Point being; get creative. You don't have to spend much to bring something meaningful that will enhance the chemistry.
The gifts I enjoy are Flowers, Hennessy Black, Tequila Rose, Patron, Champaign, Wine, Grey Goose, Your Favorite Bottle of Alcohol (I Just Moved So Am Building My Bar), Scented Candles, Antiques, and Books.
I have either seen her before and think she will like it or have not seen her but she has enough info on her site for me to guess. No gift cards or other generic things. The whole point of a gift I think, is to let someone know you were interested enough to learn a little bit about them.
Still new at this having met with less than 10 ladies but have left a tip every time so far. If I didn't have as good a time as I imagined I would have still leave an extra $20 but if i had a fun time time I would leave 40 or 50 as a extra thank you. A few occasions I have brought a bottle of wine with a dozen red roses. Women do like roses and the wine added a special touch. I have tried asking ladies if there is anything that they in particular like but always hear them tell me i don't need to bring anything which is nice but then I just go back to the extra tip, roses and wine ideas.
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