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I am so glad it went well Wormwood!
sleepydasher 884 reads
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Really glad for you.  I think we have an awful lot in common from what I've been able to read in to your posts and think a lot of you.

I've also been really trying to sort out how the hobbying experience is affecting me so far, and am finding the providers I enjoy the most are the very real ones that I can connect with within the necessary boundaries of the relationship.  

I am beginning to see that what you are doing is very possible if done without fear or possessiveness.  Best of luck to you!

Just spent a couple of days visiting my former ATF, now retired. We had a truly incredible visit- no sex (damn!!) but great conversation, a long walk at a beautiful park, listened to some amazing music and just held each other without any need to talk. Good stuff.

Both of us were actually surprised at how deeply we still connect even without the sex. I was a tad trepidacious about the visit, wondering if we would run out of things to say to each other and not have the 'spark' of sexual activity to fall back on but when it came time for me to leave, both of us thought that time came far too quickly.  What a lovely young woman- inside and out!

FWIW, I take my friendships very seriously and don't have much interest in casual friendships in which you find out about the weather, sports, or the latest Lindsay Lohan escapades. In addition to having fun, I challenge my friends- intellectually, spiritually, emotionally, sometimes physically- and I expect the same from them.  I'm very, very thankful that this lady has made space for me in her life.

For those who wonder about such things- the only costs incurred by me were for my gas and lodging.

And, Goldenbear, anyone who has a spouse has all sorts of 'emotional affairs'. No one can ever be all that anyone else needs for any length of time and we need a variety of relationships to fulfill our own needs so that we can be more 'whole' within the relationship with our SO. In my teaching career, I developed several very close friendships with students after they graduated, some of them with young, beautiful women. I have a very cool SO to not make a fuss about these friendships.

quite a sensitive man and it's a wonder that you think this is the place to share such a poignant episode. The fact is she is not a provider anymore and she still enjoys your company speaks volumes over all of the others who saw you as an ATM. I'd say retire this story and write your memoir. I hope that you would have the same tolerance for your SO if she chose the company of other gentlemen too.

P.S. I connected with what you say about being all things to a single person. I know this to be difficult if not impossible. Travel on...

-- Modified on 11/9/2007 7:19:21 PM

Really glad for you.  I think we have an awful lot in common from what I've been able to read in to your posts and think a lot of you.

I've also been really trying to sort out how the hobbying experience is affecting me so far, and am finding the providers I enjoy the most are the very real ones that I can connect with within the necessary boundaries of the relationship.  

I am beginning to see that what you are doing is very possible if done without fear or possessiveness.  Best of luck to you!

The two are inseparable and the possessiveness arises from the fear. I'm pretty firmly convinced that we have only two root emotions- fear and love. All other negative emotions arise from fear and positive emotions from love. If there's any possessiveness, it's not love.

It's pretty tricky, though. Got to watch those attachments, they'll form before you know it if you're not careful.

Good luck to you, too GB. Feel free to email.

GreatRush, I know my posts are a bit unusual for the board but there are usually many guys posting who do the "I'm falling for this provider and I can't get up" thing and I think my experiences in managing this relationship may be helpful for some others. I received much guidance from folks here and I'd like to think I can give a little something back.

In my understanding of the physiology of emotions, fear is the basic negative emotion, but shame and humiliation soon arrives on the scene, developmentally, and they have their own physiological signature regarding our nervous system. However, much of our behavior is motivated by our feeling of fear and dread at the thought of re-experiencing shame and humilation. Your essential point is still very valid, and I'm so glad you chose to share your experience. I have fantasies myself in having the possibility of a similiar relationship with my ATF, when she retires; emphasis on "fantasy." I will never know until the time comes.

Thanks for posting this.  Very uplifting...and of course I have my own selfish reasons as to why I found this so.

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