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FIDCUOF 1655 reads
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I read some of the last posts and can't believe it.   So many of these women are just street hookers and can careless about customer service.  Perhaps they have not shopped  at Nordstroms.   For example, the clock watching post.  Wow.  Again, going back to customer service.  Do you want happy repeat customers or just a quick fuck and money.  Going back to street hookers.  My point for those that are not customer service driven.  Provide a good experience, set the stage, don't watch the clock, talk, have a drink, pretend you care, have sex and blow his mind away.  The reward is NOT only money but repeat customers, great reviews, and referrals from guys friends.  My question to these women is, are you truly liking your job?  If not, go flip burgers or find a job at a department store and learn customer service.   Your business will grow and your name will have MORE value.  I turn you make more money and work less.   Who could argue with that.  I want to hear you women out there.  This is a SERVICE business.  Right??

"You make more money for less work by giving free samples to every guy?  Wrong.

Who said every lady likes this work with every guy?

Who said that every guy who likes his job should tell his boss, "I'll work 8 hrs, but since I like my job why don't you only pay me for 6?"

I find it both humorous and sad—plus a bit disturbing—that so many guys find so many different ways to essentially say, “All you ladies OWE me more!”

This is a business—albeit a very pleasant one in the right circumstances.  So let’s just throw out a few analogies.

How would a guy working on an assembly line respond to a foreman or boss who said, “Don't watch the clock, pretend you care, and work 30 minutes after the whistle blows.  For free of course, just to show me you really care.”

Or how would the restaurant respond to a guy sitting down and saying, “I know I’m just ordering dinner, but to show me you want me as a repeat customer you should throw in free drinks and free desert each time I show up.”

What I REALLY want to see is what happens when YOU are kept waiting an extra half hour because the lady you are scheduled to see is providing "quality service" by giving extra time to the guy before you.  I expect your response will be “How dare she give HIM extra time!  That’s only for ME!!!”

If you want 2 hrs, don’t schedule for one.  If you schedule for 1 hr she owes you 1 hr of focused, dedicated attention to you.  Not 50 min, not 90 min.  And almost every one I’ve seen does have a clock that runs a few minutes slow, not fast.

Now if a guy does treat a lady well (and that could mean any of a number of things) I’ve found she will often provide extra time to her favorites, or to repeat good clients.  But that is her choice, not a guy’s right.

You like extra time?  Either schedule it up front or earn it!

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This is NOT about extra time!!!  I never said that!!  I said provide a great experience and province excellent customer service and you will increase your value and make more money and work less.  

Posted By: OldTraveler
"You make more money for less work by giving free samples to every guy?  Wrong.

Who said every lady likes this work with every guy?

Who said that every guy who likes his job should tell his boss, "I'll work 8 hrs, but since I like my job why don't you only pay me for 6?"

I find it both humorous and sad—plus a bit disturbing—that so many guys find so many different ways to essentially say, “All you ladies OWE me more!”

This is a business—albeit a very pleasant one in the right circumstances.  So let’s just throw out a few analogies.

How would a guy working on an assembly line respond to a foreman or boss who said, “Don't watch the clock, pretend you care, and work 30 minutes after the whistle blows.  For free of course, just to show me you really care.”

Or how would the restaurant respond to a guy sitting down and saying, “I know I’m just ordering dinner, but to show me you want me as a repeat customer you should throw in free drinks and free desert each time I show up.”

What I REALLY want to see is what happens when YOU are kept waiting an extra half hour because the lady you are scheduled to see is providing "quality service" by giving extra time to the guy before you.  I expect your response will be “How dare she give HIM extra time!  That’s only for ME!!!”

If you want 2 hrs, don’t schedule for one.  If you schedule for 1 hr she owes you 1 hr of focused, dedicated attention to you.  Not 50 min, not 90 min.  And almost every one I’ve seen does have a clock that runs a few minutes slow, not fast.

Now if a guy does treat a lady well (and that could mean any of a number of things) I’ve found she will often provide extra time to her favorites, or to repeat good clients.  But that is her choice, not a guy’s right.

You like extra time?  Either schedule it up front or earn it!

In that case I apologize for misreading your intent.  You mention clock-watching twice, and in the context of the post below that is often connected to guys expecting more than 60 min in an hour, which is why I assumed that was your point.

I have no issue with an expectation of high quality service withing the time agreed to.

I suspect I am not the only one who misread your point.

it was regarding getting more time out of the session than what you pay for...

I would rather have 58 min of great service in a 60 min session than 62 min of lackluster service.  I typically leave couple of min before the time is up anyway...

It actually WAS regarding getting more time than he paid for, because it was a response to a response I made on LRs thread about clock watching...he took his same exact post from down there and edited out the part where he said something to the effect of the lady who offers good service chats for about an hour after time is up...he said good service is two hours for the price of one hour, LOL.
You can read in most of my reviews that I never watch the clock...I give overtime chatting when desired to anyone who is polite and we are talking meanfuly not small talk for the sake of talking IF I don't have to be somewhere or accomplish something.  My repeat awesome clients do often get entangled in hour long conversations with me that I of course do not charge for because it is like socializing with a friend, not asking me for more service for free when your time is up.  As someone mentioned, this is an EARNED bonus, not a given right.  A recent client I happened to enjoy the heck out of recently stayed 2 hours over our scheduled 4 hour meeting because we were having a blast.  He also didn't ask for any favors and checked in periodically if we were still in the "it's cool" zone.
What I brought up was an asshole who got my full attention and chit chat small talk towards the end and when he had less than 10 mins left, he wanted to go for round two...at that point I actually looked at the clock because maybe I had just been under an illusion that our time was almost up and we would be exchanging pleasantries while getting dressed soon...but instead of throwing him out or asking for proper compensation, I took care of his request because I didn't want to ruin his experience by being the letdown debbie downner reminder that his time was pretty much up...I'm not mad at myself (as suggested) for doing it, nor will it reflect on how I continue to run my business with integrity and favored treatment to good clients.  Nor will I start carefully watching the clock like I don't already.  In this case, I took care of him because I had the time, but mentally filed him as presumptuous, self entitled, and someone I will not repeat with....it was his ATTITUDE that bothered me.  That makes me a clock watcher? LOL, yeah...I should like to see you working for free before you continue to dole out such stupid advice.  There are people I am happy to be of service to, and there are people that I love it when they call me...and there are people I reserve the right to refuse service to.  If you run a business, you know you don't give the product away for free.  Freebies, or as I prefer to call them, benefits, are for long standing, well mannered, appreciative friends that I LIKE to be around...like when I order from the same online company 5 or 10 times and they start throwing in bonus gifts.
By the way, he also mentioned anyone who was ending their sessions on time was a street hooker assembly line.  I have a damn life dumb ass...I book about 5 appointments a week.  What I'm trying to get out of work ON TIME for is to take care of my obligations.
Read my reviews to get a clue

Just getting to these threads, and I can not believe my eyes!!

Posted By: FIDCUOF
These women have it all wrong and it demonstrates that they are "street hookers".  The women that I see are at least $500 for the hour and most will sit and talk and drink with you for an hour after you fuck.   That's called GREAT customer service.  See these women have not figured it out and want it to be an assembly line.   I guess they are NOT concerned with repeat customers and just want to fuck and then the money.  So many have it so wrong and this is why they post angry posts.   Simple
Seriously???? I am so sorry we have such winners here, and even sorrier that he felt the need to post in response to you. :(

You sound like a delightful woman, and I am sure that guy who took advantage will regret that he did so.

thats a very bad idea. The massuse probly know what they are [hysically and mentally capable of doing per week/month ect. they probly schedule themsleves enough where they mentally can physically erform that amount and if they begin doing two massages worth a work for one man, they may fall behind. in turn have toi cancel on other guys btheyd planned on working on. I think strictly timg the massages and the escorting is good, I do think if you wanna be nice and chat after or grab a bite with a regular you known for 10 years and not say hey give me 300 to talk to me over donner. i dont see an issue with grabbin a bite off clock if you known this loyal cutie 2 -8 years and you legitematly enjoy thier company and conversation too. I think if the lady is gonna feel like its work , then let her charge for whats work, wether its charging to talk n weat dinner. i pers0onally honestly have never been paid to eat dinner with a guy. to be honest. I have no idea where the guys are that do these dinner dates n oay u to talk to u over dinner, I have had a ton of 750-900 clients but so far between my nasally voice and just me being well angel. i dont see any guys poaying to watch me eat anytime soon.  I dont hget that part. If a guy gives you almost a grand youd think a free meal on ntop the 7-900 be just icing on cake. I maybe am just n0t meetin the milliuonaires or maybe i d be ashamed to expect money for chatting n eating with some one after they were so generous already.  but hey thats probly why i will never have moeny for a boob job. or a car. either.

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The topic is customer service, not eating out, nasally voices or massages.

Serpius

Posted By: angelexotic
Re: well as for not timing the massages. to be polite .   thats a very bad idea. The massuse probly know what they are [hysically and mentally capable of doing per week/month ect. they probly schedule themsleves enough where they mentally can physically erform that amount and if they begin doing two massages worth a work for one man, they may fall behind. in turn have toi cancel on other guys btheyd planned on working on. I think strictly timg the massages and the escorting is good, I do think if you wanna be nice and chat after or grab a bite with a regular you known for 10 years and not say hey give me 300 to talk to me over donner. i dont see an issue with grabbin a bite off clock if you known this loyal cutie 2 -8 years and you legitematly enjoy thier company and conversation too. I think if the lady is gonna feel like its work , then let her charge for whats work, wether its charging to talk n weat dinner. i pers0onally honestly have never been paid to eat dinner with a guy. to be honest. I have no idea where the guys are that do these dinner dates n oay u to talk to u over dinner, I have had a ton of 750-900 clients but so far between my nasally voice and just me being well angel. i dont see any guys poaying to watch me eat anytime soon.  I dont hget that part. If a guy gives you almost a grand youd think a free meal on ntop the 7-900 be just icing on cake. I maybe am just n0t meetin the milliuonaires or maybe i d be ashamed to expect money for chatting n eating with some one after they were so generous already.  but hey thats probly why i will never have moeny for a boob job. or a car. either.

we got to dine out together; but your home cooking is no match for the restaurants either.

Has TER seen anything like this go on for over 8 hours Straight.  

I think A Winner can be predicted based on the old Entertainment truism:

Any Publicity Is Good Publicity.
Given additional points for there a plenty of men who like feisty women this is going to be a Big Win for London's bottom line.

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... of the original post.

He never said anything about providers giving extra time for the session.

The MAIN issue is: Are you (the providers)  liking your job?

Serpius

Posted By: OldTraveler
"You make more money for less work by giving free samples to every guy?  Wrong.

Who said every lady likes this work with every guy?

Who said that every guy who likes his job should tell his boss, "I'll work 8 hrs, but since I like my job why don't you only pay me for 6?"

I find it both humorous and sad—plus a bit disturbing—that so many guys find so many different ways to essentially say, “All you ladies OWE me more!”

This is a business—albeit a very pleasant one in the right circumstances.  So let’s just throw out a few analogies.

How would a guy working on an assembly line respond to a foreman or boss who said, “Don't watch the clock, pretend you care, and work 30 minutes after the whistle blows.  For free of course, just to show me you really care.”

Or how would the restaurant respond to a guy sitting down and saying, “I know I’m just ordering dinner, but to show me you want me as a repeat customer you should throw in free drinks and free desert each time I show up.”

What I REALLY want to see is what happens when YOU are kept waiting an extra half hour because the lady you are scheduled to see is providing "quality service" by giving extra time to the guy before you.  I expect your response will be “How dare she give HIM extra time!  That’s only for ME!!!”

If you want 2 hrs, don’t schedule for one.  If you schedule for 1 hr she owes you 1 hr of focused, dedicated attention to you.  Not 50 min, not 90 min.  And almost every one I’ve seen does have a clock that runs a few minutes slow, not fast.

Now if a guy does treat a lady well (and that could mean any of a number of things) I’ve found she will often provide extra time to her favorites, or to repeat good clients.  But that is her choice, not a guy’s right.

You like extra time?  Either schedule it up front or earn it!

By repeatedly talking about clock watchers he is focusing on time, not service.  By talking about having a drink, talking, and relaxing he's talking about time.  Set up a multi hour session if that's what you want. I bet he wants 30 min of stage setting and then still an hour of action in a 1 hour session.  If she starts encouraging him to the door after an hour + 10 he likely gets upset.

Really don't follow his "work less make more" comment, and he gives the impression the providers should be grateful for his reviews and give him etras in return.

Maybe I read it wrong but if I did I was not alone.

This is what he said, so no, you did not read it wrong.

Posted By: FIDCUOF
These women have it all wrong and it demonstrates that they are "street hookers".  The women that I see are at least $500 for the hour and most will sit and talk and drink with you for an hour after you fuck.   That's called GREAT customer service.  See these women have not figured it out and want it to be an assembly line.   I guess they are NOT concerned with repeat customers and just want to fuck and then the money.  So many have it so wrong and this is why they post angry posts.   Simple

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Posted By: FIDCUOF
I read some of the last posts and can't believe it.   So many of these women are just street hookers and can careless about customer service.  Perhaps they have not shopped  at Nordstroms.   For example, the clock watching post.  Wow.  Again, going back to customer service.  Do you want happy repeat customers or just a quick fuck and money.  Going back to street hookers.  My point for those that are not customer service driven.  Provide a good experience, set the stage, don't watch the clock, talk, have a drink, pretend you care, have sex and blow his mind away.  The reward is NOT only money but repeat customers, great reviews, and referrals from guys friends.  My question to these women is, are you truly liking your job?  If not, go flip burgers or find a job at a department store and learn customer service.   Your business will grow and your name will have MORE value.  I turn you make more money and work less.   Who could argue with that.  I want to hear you women out there.  This is a SERVICE business.  Right??
There are exceptions, but most providers spend most everything they make, don't think about referrals and repeat biz, and most don't even like their clients. Very few have business oriented long term goals. The best providers are good actresses, business people,  provide extras, and are more client oriented. But they're the exceptions.  My experience is about 10% fall in this category.

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I agree 100 percent.   I saw a provider more a year that was older than me (around 36) and she was amazing.   Set the stage before I got there with perfect lighting, candles, music, drinks, etc.   Was all dolled up to see me, everything was perfect.  She took time to prepare and planned ahead.   She talked, asked me if I wanted something to drink, she even sent me home with good she has prepared.  And the best part was she was a LA 10 fucking HOT, thin, huge tits, loves to have sex and make love and loves seeing her clients.   That or she was a GREAT actress.  Customer Service was perfect and guess what.  I referred guys to her and wrote her amazing reviews.  I turn she made a shit load of money and worked less

There are people who do great job, good job, average job, and poor job in every profession.

So this one is no different. That's why you do homework before scheduling your appointment...

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There are a lot of girls in this biz that prefer other girls and think of men as scum and an ATM.

Guys PAY to USE us to cheat on their wives, and we use them for MONEY. Gosh, thanks for finally setting us straight about just what it is we are all doing here lol. I thought it was a dating site for a second.

I don't get mad at my clients for going home to their wives after paying me to fk, so why should a hobbyist get mad that we take his money? Makes zero sense.

So, are you saying women you pay have to REALLY like you? Why would you care if you have a family already? Thought this was about "just sex" lol.

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yes there are 'a lot of girls' in this biz that prefer other girls (women....lesbians---it's OK to say...lol)

But, that doesn't mean they think of men as scum or an ATM. Not UNLESS they are the guys swinging their dicks around declaring they are "owed" MORE than what they are actually paying for. Which, despite his protests, is exactly what this OP is doing.

Some of you guys make it abundantly clear that ALL you want is to show-up, pay your money, get a nut, and leave. Fine. So, stop whining about how much it costs, or about not getting "extras" above and beyond the hour you paid for to "get in and get out".

If you would like more from the experience I think you'll find that some mutual respect and consideration, here as in any other part of life, will be reciprocated.

I think I provide a lot of things that enhance the experience of being with me. My incall, for example, is discreet, upscale, comfortable and, if I may say so myself, beautifully decorated. I always have refreshments available, candles lit and I always get compliments on my choice of music. The bathroom is always sparkling clean and is fully stocked with toiletries. I like to send little follow up emails after I meet with someone to thank them for spending time with me, and with more regular clients, I do like to keep in contact via email to just see how they're doing, and perhaps discuss things like books or current events. And while I do this to not only enhance their experiences with me, I do it to enhance and enrich my experience with them. I do like being detail oriented, and setting the stage just right...and I do like to follow up with people and having that personal touch.

Are these the types of things you're talking about?

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YES!!  YES!  and. yES !!!  I want to see you.  YOU know how to take care of a customer and provide a great service.  Listen even if the sex is " so so" I'm coming back because I think you care.   Does that make sense ???

I have THREE incall locations and a personal driver service for my clients...how many women have you reviewed as having such? Not one. The very things you say you want, I provide 10 times over yet you want to use my thread as a reason for your bs. Grow some balls little boy...you're out of your league and every guy in LA thinks you're a fktard. Be happy for the women who do let you pay them, because without the money you would be jacking off to redtube.

YOU got to be special.  I didn't write in a review of a provider who picks up at the Tijuana border in a Limo. Wear just a fur coat, stockings and hills--talk about customer service.  Rich Mexicans know how to live and evidently pay for very well for some things.

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Dear Margo,
I could fall in love with a lady like you!  Oops! Almost forgot: we're not supposed to do that. But that must be REALLY hard for your guys - to NOT fall in love with a woman as nice, kind, considerate and loving as you sound to be. I wish we lived closer... :-(   You really have some good pointers for many of the other ladies to learn as far as care and quality of service. You definitely GET IT!
Thanks for your input....and perhaps we shall meet someday!   :-)

make 3 times the rate I started from, and see a third less clients....equilibrium is a nice concept. Let us get real here for a minute...FIDODUMB seems to think I am losing business, but who says I am here for that? Who says any provider here needs money from EVERY guy here? That is retarded. I don't have to be nice to some idiot in Los Angeles..really?

Every time I hand him his ass I get a PM box full of requests to go to the west coast LMAO! Thanks!  FIDODUMB..you're actually HELPING me get interest from guys who think you're a joke and I am the greatest thing for telling you to get fked lol. Priceless!

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I'm not a hater and hate to put people down, however, I only speak facts.   London I saw your pics and you don't belong in LA.  You belong in West Virginia or Alabama. Believe me

I have been to LA many times and charged more than many of the women you see...my reviews are also better, so once again, you come off looking like an idiot. I don't care if you need some 80 lb. crack head with fake tits honey...most guys prefer my body type. You can't insult me on looks, because I don't give a fk what you think. My reviews speak for themselves, and once again I have a higher average than MANY of the women YOU have seen. WTF...nuff said.

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... 5 years? Is that all?

My two ATFs have been around 10 years and 12 years and both of their customer service is 2nd to none.

A lot of your postings lately is nothing but hate. Makes me wonder about your customer service.

Who cares if you have 3 incall locations? That is not customer service. Who cares about your taxicab service? Again, that is not customer service.

You will not be reviewed on how many incall locations you have nor will the taxicab service be reviewed.

So, you ask what is customer service? That's what you do during the session and how you treat the client during that time.

Stay on topic, London. Fighting with FIDCUOF is not going to improve your customer service.

Serpius

Posted By: London Rayne
make 3 times the rate I started from, and see a third less clients....equilibrium is a nice concept. Let us get real here for a minute...FIDODUMB seems to think I am losing business, but who says I am here for that? Who says any provider here needs money from EVERY guy here? That is retarded. I don't have to be nice to some idiot in Los Angeles..really?

Every time I hand him his ass I get a PM box full of requests to go to the west coast LMAO! Thanks!  FIDODUMB..you're actually HELPING me get interest from guys who think you're a joke and I am the greatest thing for telling you to get fked lol. Priceless!

In two more years at most, I will retire from this business a very content woman with a real career that I worked for vs. having a silver spoon in my mouth. You don't even have a Master's Degree so careful how you step. Add to that my University beats yours by a country mile..Tulane would not even let you in! They do a head check with all new admissions bwahahaha. Your stalker past would have you in cuffs.

My reviews and repeat clientele speak for my customer service, which a POS like you would know nothing about. Go meet a hooker at Wendy's and worry about your own issues....there are plenty enough to keep you and the psych ward busy. :) You and your ass banging buddy seem to miss that I don't have to cater to every man who happens to have a few hundred bucks at the drop of a hat. I cater to men I actually WANT to see, so that leaves me very little to complain about. Guys like you have to beg even a hooker to take your money.


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This is the clip that popped in my head from the Mel Brooks film Blazing Saddles...and I was able to find it on youtube...
"baby you are so talented, and they are so dumb!"  This scene is forever burned in my mind and pops up in the file when needed, LOL.

More to to you about this when I get to my laptop and not typing this from my phone. Trust me you are an idiot and wrong on so many levels

Posted By: serpius
... 5 years? Is that all?

My two ATFs have been around 10 years and 12 years and both of their customer service is 2nd to none.

A lot of your postings lately is nothing but hate. Makes me wonder about your customer service.

Who cares if you have 3 incall locations? That is not customer service. Who cares about your taxicab service? Again, that is not customer service.

You will not be reviewed on how many incall locations you have nor will the taxicab service be reviewed.

So, you ask what is customer service? That's what you do during the session and how you treat the client during that time.

Stay on topic, London. Fighting with FIDCUOF is not going to improve your customer service.

Serpius
Posted By: London Rayne
make 3 times the rate I started from, and see a third less clients....equilibrium is a nice concept. Let us get real here for a minute...FIDODUMB seems to think I am losing business, but who says I am here for that? Who says any provider here needs money from EVERY guy here? That is retarded. I don't have to be nice to some idiot in Los Angeles..really?

Every time I hand him his ass I get a PM box full of requests to go to the west coast LMAO! Thanks!  FIDODUMB..you're actually HELPING me get interest from guys who think you're a joke and I am the greatest thing for telling you to get fked lol. Priceless!

You don't have to worry about her customer service because I doubt you will ever have the pleasure of being allowed to receive it. Let me tell you that I have not had better. A steak dinner cooked to perfection, my favorite drink also made the way I like it, a beautiful location on a lake, music and a fire pit on the deck. All of that with a perfect 10 of a woman there for you and ready to give you the best BBBJ. Well it's the stuff you dream about. On second thought maybe not you and your delusional ideas of beauty and customer service.

You and fido are complete idiots, with no idea of what good is. If I wanted to fuck a barbie doll I would take  one of yours. I'm not into little girls though, so I recommend the two of you just continue to play with yourselves.

Wow your two ATF's have been doing this for 10 and 12 years. I think I prefer being with someone that has a little less time in the biz.

Can't you see that she is not catering to you and is seeing the people that she wants to see. You want any hole to fill, go to the truck stop knock on the door and stick your dick in the hole in the wall. Tell the person on the other side Fido sent you. Enjoy your service fucktard


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... that Medic is London Rayne's WHITE KNIGHT???

Ok, I'll say it....

"Medic is London Rayne's white knight!!!"

Serpius

Posted By: MagicMedic
You don't have to worry about her customer service because I doubt you will ever have the pleasure of being allowed to receive it. Let me tell you that I have not had better. A steak dinner cooked to perfection, my favorite drink also made the way I like it, a beautiful location on a lake, music and a fire pit on the deck. All of that with a perfect 10 of a woman there for you and ready to give you the best BBBJ. Well it's the stuff you dream about. On second thought maybe not you and your delusional ideas of beauty and customer service.

You and fido are complete idiots, with no idea of what good is. If I wanted to fuck a barbie doll I would take  one of yours. I'm not into little girls though, so I recommend the two of you just continue to play with yourselves.

Wow your two ATF's have been doing this for 10 and 12 years. I think I prefer being with someone that has a little less time in the biz.

Can't you see that she is not catering to you and is seeing the people that she wants to see. You want any hole to fill, go to the truck stop knock on the door and stick your dick in the hole in the wall. Tell the person on the other side Fido sent you. Enjoy your service fucktard


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I'm not the only one telling you that you are an idiot, but I am certainly calling you out directly.

Her white knight, hmm. You know she can handle herself and doesn't need anyone saving her. She has been setting you straight for sometime now and does it easily. With that said it's one thing to defend yourself, and another to know someone has your back. Trust me I have her back if she needs it.

It must suck to be jealous though. I actually feel sorry for you...Nah, not really

You ran out of real arguments so you shout "White Knight!"  Might as well shout out "London beat me!"

Looks like your definition of white knight is a man who likes a provider you don't like.

I'm pretty new here and even I can see that you follow London around and shoot spit balls at her.  GROW UP!  Did she turn you down for a session, is that what has you so upset?


IMHO:  
(My nutshell story)
I began work in the adult industry during the Clinton Years as a Bath House Hostess & Attendant.  From there I graduated to an Escort, and then an Agency Owner.  While in the Bath House arena I witnessed Ladies and Broads.  The Ladies were (almost always) on time for their shift, smiled, took complaints (if any) to management (instead of complaining to the staff) and always kept a good rapport   their clients and their co-workers.  
The Broads were always late, never looked well-kept, nickel-and-dimed every customer they came in contact with, and complained when the Ladies "took" an appointment that the Broads were tardy for.

Moving on to my 2nd to the last position as an Agency Owner, I didn't plan on it but it kinda, "fell on my lap."  After finishing my Finance and Business Management schooling (from working at the Bath House) I heard along The Circuit how many other adult entertainers, escorts, body work artists, etc. were unhappy with their "employers."  So I thought about it; (to this day many agency owners are given a bad name due to the bad apples) I've been in that line of work, I've got the mind set and the  business background from school and working in the family business from middle school to high school...  
So, why not embark on an endeavor that will not only help my bottom line but I could/can help OTHER women in this line of work be RESPONSIBLE with their funds, help to teach them & keep them safe, teach them good budgeting and investment ideas and whether they wanted to be in this line of work Short-Term (for 1 to 4 years to pay down some bills or go to school) or Long Term (5 to 20+ years) I was going to "use my powers for Good instead of evil!"

My point (I know, I, know; you're thinking FINALLY...) I helped the short and long term Ladies see the big picture and I had to break down certain things certain ways for certain people.  Some just process things differently.  Some had short term goals like (again) finishing school, buy a car (without that 60-month note commitment), help out the household/family situation, etc.  Others were more long term; they really enjoyed their line of work in the Adult Entertainment business so they worked on building their brand, re-building their body into a Brick House, learning the difference between advertising and marketing and executing them both with designated focus, purchasing property, traveling and learning a 2nd or 3rd language.

So, customer service is key but, all is lost if we don't know who we are or where we stand on principles.  You have to separate The Life.  You must, like the Hobbyists, do your research.  This is not the Escort Business of the past.  

Do your homework and get yourself together.  See about it. Hear about it.  But, be about it safely.

Ciao mi gente...

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... post about your experience and how you helped providers understand customer service.

I hope that a few providers read your post and follow through it.

It's refreshing to read your kind of post instead of whining and controlling posts by some folks in the forums.

Serpius

Posted By: EscortAssistant
Re: In regards to civility, focus and short term vs. long term
IMHO:  
(My nutshell story)
I began work in the adult industry during the Clinton Years as a Bath House Hostess & Attendant.  From there I graduated to an Escort, and then an Agency Owner.  While in the Bath House arena I witnessed Ladies and Broads.  The Ladies were (almost always) on time for their shift, smiled, took complaints (if any) to management (instead of complaining to the staff) and always kept a good rapport   their clients and their co-workers.  
The Broads were always late, never looked well-kept, nickel-and-dimed every customer they came in contact with, and complained when the Ladies "took" an appointment that the Broads were tardy for.

Moving on to my 2nd to the last position as an Agency Owner, I didn't plan on it but it kinda, "fell on my lap."  After finishing my Finance and Business Management schooling (from working at the Bath House) I heard along The Circuit how many other adult entertainers, escorts, body work artists, etc. were unhappy with their "employers."  So I thought about it; (to this day many agency owners are given a bad name due to the bad apples) I've been in that line of work, I've got the mind set and the  business background from school and working in the family business from middle school to high school...  
So, why not embark on an endeavor that will not only help my bottom line but I could/can help OTHER women in this line of work be RESPONSIBLE with their funds, help to teach them & keep them safe, teach them good budgeting and investment ideas and whether they wanted to be in this line of work Short-Term (for 1 to 4 years to pay down some bills or go to school) or Long Term (5 to 20+ years) I was going to "use my powers for Good instead of evil!"

My point (I know, I, know; you're thinking FINALLY...) I helped the short and long term Ladies see the big picture and I had to break down certain things certain ways for certain people.  Some just process things differently.  Some had short term goals like (again) finishing school, buy a car (without that 60-month note commitment), help out the household/family situation, etc.  Others were more long term; they really enjoyed their line of work in the Adult Entertainment business so they worked on building their brand, re-building their body into a Brick House, learning the difference between advertising and marketing and executing them both with designated focus, purchasing property, traveling and learning a 2nd or 3rd language.

So, customer service is key but, all is lost if we don't know who we are or where we stand on principles.  You have to separate The Life.  You must, like the Hobbyists, do your research.  This is not the Escort Business of the past.  

Do your homework and get yourself together.  See about it. Hear about it.  But, be about it safely.

Ciao mi gente...

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... post earlier this week about liking your job.

If someone really don't like their job, why are you keeping that job?

Most providers do not understand how to provide customer great customer service.

I agree with your post.

Serpius

Posted By: FIDCUOF
I read some of the last posts and can't believe it.   So many of these women are just street hookers and can careless about customer service.  Perhaps they have not shopped  at Nordstroms.   For example, the clock watching post.  Wow.  Again, going back to customer service.  Do you want happy repeat customers or just a quick fuck and money.  Going back to street hookers.  My point for those that are not customer service driven.  Provide a good experience, set the stage, don't watch the clock, talk, have a drink, pretend you care, have sex and blow his mind away.  The reward is NOT only money but repeat customers, great reviews, and referrals from guys friends.  My question to these women is, are you truly liking your job?  If not, go flip burgers or find a job at a department store and learn customer service.   Your business will grow and your name will have MORE value.  I turn you make more money and work less.   Who could argue with that.  I want to hear you women out there.  This is a SERVICE business.  Right??

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100 percent agree !!  If you don't like your job: GET OUT.  If you don't like your wife or girl friend:  GET OUT.  If you don't like the place you live:  GET OUT.   If you don't like your friend:  GET OUT.   Do you see a tread here ???  YEP!!  If you don't like something in your life:  GET OUT, make change, go a different direction.  People are so fearful of change.  I don't know about you but SO many people in this world are unhappy because they are too scared to make change and/or GET OUT!!!  If I'm not good with something or I'm not liking it guess what?  I get OUT, leave, make a change, go a different direction.  

Posted By: serpius
... post earlier this week about liking your job.

If someone really don't like their job, why are you keeping that job?

Most providers do not understand how to provide customer great customer service.

I agree with your post.

Serpius
Posted By: FIDCUOF
I read some of the last posts and can't believe it.   So many of these women are just street hookers and can careless about customer service.  Perhaps they have not shopped  at Nordstroms.   For example, the clock watching post.  Wow.  Again, going back to customer service.  Do you want happy repeat customers or just a quick fuck and money.  Going back to street hookers.  My point for those that are not customer service driven.  Provide a good experience, set the stage, don't watch the clock, talk, have a drink, pretend you care, have sex and blow his mind away.  The reward is NOT only money but repeat customers, great reviews, and referrals from guys friends.  My question to these women is, are you truly liking your job?  If not, go flip burgers or find a job at a department store and learn customer service.   Your business will grow and your name will have MORE value.  I turn you make more money and work less.   Who could argue with that.  I want to hear you women out there.  This is a SERVICE business.  Right??

That's why you get paid.

Of course some suck worse than others, and I appreciate my job, but some days it can really be maddening.

I presume escorting is very similar.

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It sucks to be you!!  I love my job(s).  I work full time for a company, own my own small business and do consting work on the side.   If you don't like what you do leave.  Life is too short.  I remember seeing London write that she didn't like she job as an escort.  WFT-  leave and go work at a department store or something else.  She fired back and said the money keeps her there.  If that's the case shut up and be thankful and find things to be happy about.  This is all about happiness folks.  If you are not happy make change !!

You're full of shit. I said I did not like EVERY ASPECT OF THIS JOB, and here's a clue dummy...no one does! I don't like every aspect of ANY job, so I should quit? What a moron. If my kid pisses me off, I should give her up for adoption? You are seriously dumbest poster of the year second to serpius. Both of you are fit for the same straight jacket.

You come off as being a quitter, and that is a very weak way to go about life. If you don't like your job, quit regardless of the house that will go into foreclosure lol. If you don't like your wife, leave...gosh, fkin brilliant. If everyone approached life with the "when the going gets tough the tough get going" mentality, there would be ZERO companies in business today brainiac.

No one likes every single aspect of their jobs, and if you say you do you're just as crazy as the last guy who tried to say that. Do you think Taylor Swift loves everything about singing, touring, and fans? Should she give up her 12 or so music awards and just quit when she has a bad day? Gosh, you give out the most idiotic advice of anyone I have ever seen dude. Please quit posting, because you suck at that lol.

Your very rant in this thread proves YOU don't like ALL aspects of the hobby, so why are you still here? LMAO, yea.

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You might have a job where you have to ride a camel, but that beat shoveling up camel shit.

I think there only one person I've ever met who has a job that is like dying and going to heaven.

He was the head of an association of academic types, and his job function was to go around the country scoping out hotels and convention halls to recommend them for their annual meetings.  Cha-ching!  He got to run all over the country hobbying away on their dime and getting treated like a rajah.  Plus he got paid royally for this privilege.  

For anyone that has a job like that, I salute you.  You must have earned some great karma in the last life to get that far.  I can only hope you remember to give back for your great fortune to keep the wheel turning in your favor.  I hope I do half as well in the next as I got it here.

After all, how many have jobs where I can look busy in my office while typing this shit?

8o)

A single lady with no kids--fairly easy
A single mom with a couple small kids, not so easy.

Support system?--easier.
Thrown out by judgemental parents?--not so easy; small kids really do need to eat during transition times and a lot of moms do think having a safe place for their kids to live is more important that enjoying every client they see.

I could go on but you get the point.

The other part of this is that exceedingly few people love or hate their job 100% every day.  I have projects I enjoy working on, and some clients I despise every moment I'm dealing with them.  This business is even more so--most ladies enjoy their time with some clients and hate every second with some, but they rarely know the latter until it happens.

And it need not be that the guy is a jerk.  Sexual enjoyment--even non-sexual--is much about chemistry, and that's damn hard to predict.

bad days with the wife? WOW is right...you are seriously deranged. You and serpie need to share the same straight jacket.

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Whoa whoa whoa!!  I never said all married guys should get out if they have a BAD day.  I said if they are unhappy and going into a different direction get out.  You twist words...  Wow.  I think that poeple are unhappy and in order to be happy they need to make some tough decisions.  

Posted By: London Rayne
bad days with the wife? WOW is right...you are seriously deranged. You and serpie need to share the same straight jacket.

any situation that you don't like, regardless of what you have to lose. Don't try and change it up now, because it is right there for all to see. You're a quitter...very noble of you.

We forget this isn't a profession.  We just keep hearing propaganda.  A profession has standards it holds, members put back into their profession and their community.  They also are governed by ethical bodies.  How many other  manual labor jobs do we call professions.  Even actors refer to their work as a craft.

There are those that act in a professional manner and most don't.  A large number are on drugs and in jail. In jail on more than just prostitution charges-you do leave your money and cc in your car, if you take them at all.  Most saw this either as a way of life growing up, saw no other way, were forced into this way of making money.  So what do you expect.  Understand a lot of them are just trying to live the best they know.  Many don't keep the money. Many don't understand money, but like in any group there are a few percent who do and there are those who are drawn into this trade because they understand running a business well.  These gals often have investments planned and want a faster way of getting the money and will leave other just think that.

Then there is another kind:
One provider got angry with me and said "you don't me or my life" so many are in denial, She had just told me some of it.  I was telling her she was "land poor" (assets are all tied up in real estate) because she was complaining that she "...even has to pay for her units" a 16 unit apt. building.  I'm bringing this up because she was telling me how much she spends on men and lumped in all necessities, towels etc. and the units.  The point is she is an example of one who has been taught to first take care your own finance and no understanding of economics or on the value of spending money on customer relations or interested in better marketing, which started the conversation.  Come to think of it, if her customer relations were better and she wouldn't have been so offensive, she would've had another client.
You get all levels of business people.

and are obviously deluded, my post WAS about customer service. I guess you missed the fact that I said, "I often offer extra time and extras," which would signify that I do enjoy doing it for 'some' people....the guys who deserve it, vs. guys like you. You also miss that I have repeat customers, great reviews and they keep coming! No, I don't see 5 guys a week because I don't have to but I generally average 3-4 new clients per month, and honey that is all I care to see. Why do you think I can spend HOURS each day on TER? Duh..common sense would tell you I have ALREADY built a client base over the years and it did not involve kissing ass to get money from losers like YOU ha ha.

Soooo, you just tried to insult me then made me the very example of the providers you speak of....the ones who can make MORE money and work LESS lol. Thanks. :)

You keep saying you saw a post where I said I did not like my job here...show me where. You're full of shit an see what you want. I said I don't like 'whiney, insecure fktards who are in the hobby," but guess what...those are not MY clients lol. I see MEN, not toddlers. So, I can see the confusion on your part. Because I said, I don't like guys like YOU, that must mean I don't like any guy? Ha ha...bloody hell.



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Fidiot, sorry Fid, just couldn't resist. And don't give me any crap about using an alias.

Posted By: London Rayne
and are obviously deluded, my post WAS about customer service. I guess you missed the fact that I said, "I often offer extra time quite often," which would signify that I do enjoy doing it for 'some' people....the guys who deserve it, vs. guys like you. You also miss that I have repeat customers, great reviews and they keep coming! No, I don't see 5 guys a week because I don't have to but I generally average 3-4 new clients per month, and honey that is all I care to see. Why do you think I can spend HOURS each day on TER? Duh..common sense would tell you I have ALREADY built a client base over the years and it did not involve kissing ass to get money from losers like YOU ha ha.

Soooo, you just tried to insult me then made me the very example of a the providers you speak of who make MORE money and work LESS lol. Thanks. :)

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to calling women fat when they hand him his puny ass. At least he spends money though...that's decent of him, but you could not pay me enough to cater to his wimpy ego. I can't deal with little boys. Some other hooker who needs rent money can do that for me...I have a mortgage that is taken care of by the great guys who I spend time with. This fktard just contradicted the very insult he was trying to pass off lol. Tell a low volume provider who has the highest rate in the city she needs to be nice to increase her business lol. Fktard Gold!

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This guy must have done a lot more to London.  Somebody what?

Need I say more? He wonders why some women avoid his stupid ass and is hated by all of LA.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=551244&boardID=12&page=6#551244

Nuff said, you disturbed, deranged nut job!

-- Modified on 11/16/2012 2:04:01 PM

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You have issues.  

Posted By: London Rayne
Need I say more? He wonders why some women avoid his stupid ass and is hated by all of LA. Duh.

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... worst.

Watching you tell everyone that you are always right.

Or

Watching you continue to make a complete ass out of yourself.

I think it is both.

Serpius

Posted By: London Rayne
Re: Shall I pull up the thread FOR YOU? Honey, YOU have issues. I just keep it real. E.

on a fk board, hurry and scoop him up before he finds some other stalker to take up with lol. I thought CPA and lungman were my white nights or was it perfectstorm, Curly and OldT? I guess it is every guy on TER who sees you for that nutjob you really are, and also explains why you are no longer allowed to use another handle. This one connects back to all of your past behavior all over the net where women can avoid your crazy ass.

Now you are definitely a damsel....

But NOT in any distress.

Maybe I should consider WK'ing for ole Serpie?  He's in distress...and maybe he's also a damsel?  I know some guys like to do the dress up  :D

Posted By: London Rayne
on a fk board, hurry and scoop him up before he finds some other stalker to take up with lol. I thought CPA and lungman were my white nights or was it perfectstorm, Curly and OldT? I guess it is every guy on TER who sees you for that nutjob you really are, and also explains why you are no longer allowed to use another handle. This one connects back to all of your past behavior all over the net where women can avoid your crazy ass.

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Now you are definitely a damsel....

But NOT in any distress.

Maybe I should consider WK'ing for ole Serpie?  He's in distress...and maybe he's also a damsel?  I know some guys like to do the dress up  :D
Posted By: London Rayne
on a fk board, hurry and scoop him up before he finds some other stalker to take up with lol. I thought CPA and lungman were my white nights or was it perfectstorm, Curly and OldT? I guess it is every guy on TER who sees you for that nutjob you really are, and also explains why you are no longer allowed to use another handle. This one connects back to all of your past behavior all over the net where women can avoid your crazy ass.

Each time to try to elaborate on your point it makes you look a little worse.

You may wish to lick your wounds and move on to a different topic.

over there as well bwahahahaha. You are such an immature little johnnie boy. I bet you will be the next to post "I fell for a hooker" thread lol.

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Some of you just can't Handle the truth and that's ok.  I'm a realist and some of you are dreamers

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That was NOT very nice London....You don't play nice do you?  I'm sure are going to really want to see you now since you true colors are now exposed.   You are nothing but a street hooker....yeah....look at the why you talk and the trash that comes out of mouth....wow......No class !!!  NO CLASS !!  did I say....NO CLASS !!!

Your problem is only that LR has been spanking your ass like you were a bad dog. She is all class with those that are not complete idiots.

Now go outside and be a good boy

Posted By: FIDCUOF
That was NOT very nice London....You don't play nice do you?  I'm sure are going to really want to see you now since you true colors are now exposed.   You are nothing but a street hooker....yeah....look at the why you talk and the trash that comes out of mouth....wow......No class !!!  NO CLASS !!  did I say....NO CLASS !!!

London,

There you go again.

Did you read everything. His second post explains he didn't mean it about men taking up time as much as customer service. Poster #2 already jumped on him for that.  

BTW   You only see a few men so you that's the reason you're here.  You like us that much.
         Hmm.  Can't beat up on the men that pay so you come here? lol

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I love it !!!   Can't hate me for being a realist.  London belongs in Memphis.  And the reason my spelling is so shitty is because I'm using my iPhone and sometimes it changes words.  And I don't have time like you do to read over these posts.  I have a real job babe.  ;  ;)

if I mean nothing to you? Ha ha ha, what a moron. Don't blame your phone for crappy spelling and overall grammar babe...you're barely out of undergrad, and it shows. I have a real job as well, but I can make money in my sleep from it. What's your point? You are under 30 and still have to pay for ass because no woman in LA or anywhere would even look at you. Who is smarter here? You put down women based on how they look, but the ones you claim are so hot would never fk you for free lol. Tragic.

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Another example of YOU blowing up and going on a rant. Wow.  Some of year ladies are fucking crazy

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Posted By: FIDCUOF
I read some of the last posts and can't believe it.   So many of these women are just street hookers and can careless about customer service.  Perhaps they have not shopped  at Nordstroms.   For example, the clock watching post.  Wow.  Again, going back to customer service.  Do you want happy repeat customers or just a quick fuck and money.  Going back to street hookers.  My point for those that are not customer service driven.  Provide a good experience, set the stage, don't watch the clock, talk, have a drink, pretend you care, have sex and blow his mind away.  The reward is NOT only money but repeat customers, great reviews, and referrals from guys friends.  My question to these women is, are you truly liking your job?  If not, go flip burgers or find a job at a department store and learn customer service.   Your business will grow and your name will have MORE value.  I turn you make more money and work less.   Who could argue with that.  I want to hear you women out there.  This is a SERVICE business.  Right??

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I agree most providers who enjoy their job won't mind before starting the session , Maybe off the clock talking a few minutes getting to know you , getting to know your (likes/dislikes). Or a quick drink and chat.  

Of course that would be nice , but this should not be expected by the client , Same with tips they are greatly appreciated but not expected.  You have to keep in mind the the provider maybe working on a schedule or may have other clients to see.  A true gentlemen should be respectful not to abuse his time by trying to over stay.  

I agree with the OP about customer service , but I disagree with his comment about clock watching.

Great discussion  

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There you go again.  Angry just exudes from you.   Wow

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I'm guessing you meant this for London since you guys are going back and forth at each other.

why hookers don't pimp their daughters off?   No denial. Was it a question or an accusation Dude it was a bash.  Should have asked Why do some... you may have some stats.  points for London.

Use of profanity penalty against London greater.  What a mouth on this babe.  The way she gets angry all the time and she claims her dad's a cop, I'm beginning to believe she's Irish. Watch out!

The big points by far are for strategy and the great foot work in drawing London into the fray.
Who saw the baiting come b4 London?  Could she have let it go. No, if she wasn't insulted, she sure let everybody who didn't catch it know and why.  Not to mention a lot people who would have never none.
Bad move the girl for the Big Easy... How appropriate a name for occupation and the way she works at it.
Remember what Mark Twain said:
"Better to be quiet at let people think you a fool, than open your mouth and prove it,"

But she's in it now, like all who lose their head when they fight they usually get beat up, but this one might go either way.  I've noticed her style.  After she blows off without thinking things out all the way, she has an uncanny way of starting to really regain her head and she is no dummy.

FIDCUOF in the lead by his masterful start and maintaining. How can London turn the table and the score?


There is no score here because I can't really debate with idiots on a fk board that can't even spell. Sorry, yes I do have a mouth on me...call me orally fixated. HE used MY post in his original comment or did you miss that? I am the cat here buddy, and he is the mouse. Just sayin. I can do this shit all day long. I think you must have me confused with the hooker that needs to impress you boys by kissing your ass...where would you ever get such a stupid idea bwahahahaha.

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This is absolutely hilarious.  Classic.  I haven't laughed this hard all week.

At the end of the day London is making money.  I'd be willing to bet this entire exchange only helps her business.  

Winner?  She ought to be writing FID a thank you note.  LOL

Posted By: aces8
why hookers don't pimp their daughters off?   No denial. Was it a question or an accusation Dude it was a bash.  Should have asked Why do some... you may have some stats.  points for London.

Use of profanity penalty against London greater.  What a mouth on this babe.  The way she gets angry all the time and she claims her dad's a cop, I'm beginning to believe she's Irish. Watch out!

The big points by far are for strategy and the great foot work in drawing London into the fray.
Who saw the baiting come b4 London?  Could she have let it go. No, if she wasn't insulted, she sure let everybody who didn't catch it know and why.  Not to mention a lot people who would have never none.
Bad move the girl for the Big Easy... How appropriate a name for occupation and the way she works at it.
Remember what Mark Twain said:
"Better to be quiet at let people think you a fool, than open your mouth and prove it,"

But she's in it now, like all who lose their head when they fight they usually get beat up, but this one might go either way.  I've noticed her style.  After she blows off without thinking things out all the way, she has an uncanny way of starting to really regain her head and she is no dummy.

FIDCUOF in the lead by his masterful start and maintaining. How can London turn the table and the score?


I suspect many here will assume you are blind.  Fid has backpeddled on almost everything he stated once called on it, recreating his story as he goes.

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She doesn't know how.....she loses by TKO just like George will tonight at the UFC.   party time people

Good or Not  We may love a good fight. But it is a place for DISCUSSION.  London's style can do it, if you don't give the little girl room.  Did I say little girl.  Women don't fight with children.

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that if his post was only about customer service, there would have been no need to address another thread that was also about the very same thing. Why mock a post that said the very same things he did? It simply makes no sense, but that is what we have come to appreciate about FIDODUMB. LA wants their idiot back...oh wait, no they don't. I just checked lol.

It's been great entertainment, but call it what it is London.
I went to a better college, etc. come on it sure sounds to me like kids in a school yard, My daddy can beat up your daddy. If I'm giving him too much credit, what are you saying about yourself.
That's not meant as a put down.  Just consider the source.   We do.

I never claimed to be level headed honey...it's a fk board and I am not paid by the word here. I don't have to be PC until someone pays me to shut up.

But clearly you miss the point.  These ladies are not selling over  priced hand bags - they are renting their presence to you for a defined period of time.  Sure, from time to time they will find a client who they actually like, and they may decide to grant that customer more service but on the whole, their businss model dicates that they truly value their time.  Heck, even the maid (a service industry) sets a price and does her job based upon what was contracted.  That is, she is not cleaning a 10,000 Sq Ft house for the same rate as a 35,000 sq ft house.

and by the way, I do not consider an hour of service "a quick fuck."   As to the rest of your prattle... "don't watch the clock, have a drink, etc..." if a lady has 4 clients a day - I would NOT want to be her #4 if this was how she managed her "callers" as she is likely to be late, drunk and sloppy....

Now let's all get away from the computer/smatphone/whatever. Have a drink and find someone to fuck!

Is this what you men really think of us? We're all (or mostly) just a bunch of sad sacks with no where to go? No plan, no pride in our work, and a plethora of drug problems? And you think it's US that hates YOU?!

Let me tell you something, we can see this attitude on you from a mile away, no matter how well you *think* you hide it. So before I even say anything else, I'm just going to say that some of you need to stop what you're doing right now, take a hot bath, and give yourself an attitude adjustment about how you look at the women who are kind enough to let you enjoy this hobby. I am the QUEEN of "let's get a nice hotel, and snacks, and drinks, and an outfit I think this one specific client will like, and then let's hang out for 40 minutes past our time and I'll just deal with my assistant later", and even I become a clock watcher when you come in, plop on the bed, and give me the "time for you to make my day!" look. There is very little else that makes you more repulsive to us than the attitude that we poor little hookers had better impress you, and you will NOT get the same service. If you're seeing well rated girls and constantly feeling like you're not getting what you're paying for, then it's probably because of you. Not them.

Second I would like to address the repeated insistence that if we don't like our jobs, we should go flip burgers or work in a department store. Excuse me?! I, and many others I know (40+) are very well educated women. I'm talking women with higher degrees in nursing, social work, business, psychology, chemistry, even full out doctors. We would never even be looked at for a position like that, let alone apply for one. So please, lose the insulting "none of you are even a tiny bit good enough to do anything but suck my balls and tell me I'm wonderful" attitude.

And then of course, the extras. What extras do you really want? Did you know that the huge majority of us would LOVE to know exactly what would make you happy? Do you have any idea how hard it is to "blow someone's mind" when they don't make a peep to show us if we're doing a good job or not? If you would like something special, bring it or ask us to provide it. Explicit discussions may be a no-no, but a simple "could you be wearing this?" or "I really like such and such snacks and this kind of wine" can make a big difference for both of us. We have to try to become what a complete stranger wants in a very short amount of time. Any insight on your part makes everything so much easier for us, and in turn better for you.

I would like to know why our "plans" keep coming up on these posts. What in the world do you care? Does it somehow add to your experience if she has an "acceptable" plan? Do you look at the waiter, shake your head, and say "what a dumbass. No plans at all after this."? What about the receptionist? Your favorite athlete? Or even you own boss? I can pretty much guarantee that you guys don't give two shits about everyone else's plans, so why is ours more fodder for you to look down on us? Whether our plan is to earn enough to buy a bag at the mall, pay off some debt, put ourselves through school, buy a business, or plan for retirement, it is none of your business and you will never truly know.

Stop looking for ways to judge us and just enjoy the time you have together. I'm not really sure what is so hard about that? The amount of disrespect for women shown on this thread alone is truly disgusting, and I'm so sorry that some poor girl was at one point trying her best while you just looked down and thought about what a stupid, dirty little street walker she was. You get what you give, guys. Don't expect us to show you a huge amount of appreciation and admiration if this is the way you're going to think about us. We can tell. I promise.

hotplants361 reads

Very good points. I'm sure there are plenty of women reading some the tripe around here that are too intimidated to respond because they would find themselves in conflict with their own client base; potentially risking their own livelihood.

And, likely as many women who just view it as completely pointless to say anything. What she gets in return is another ass-tard shitting on her head, threatening her with "to do lists" and negative reviews; calling her fat and ugly. Who needs the aggravation.

"Stop looking for ways to judge us and just enjoy the time you have together" Indeed.


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But I am afraid it won't do an ounce of good. The good guys get it and the assholes don't.

I'm sure your points will be lost on the very people in need of that attitude adjustment, but nonetheless, I'm glad someone explained it to them.

When I first started advertizing  in this business as an indie, I met a few guys like the OP, but after having gone through 2 or 3 hellish meetings, I learned how to read between the lines and screen them out.

There is not enough money in the world to make up for having to suffer through a few hours in the "company" of someone who thinks of women (not just escorts but wives, girlfriends, mothers and daughters, as demonstrated in previous threads) this way. It is shocking to see such an ignorant and entitled attitude. I'm sure many ladies are taking notes and expanding their DNS lists.

What started this  marathon just under 13 hours.

not to change the subject...but is there really one of those on here?  And if so, where is it?

:)

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Is this what you men really think of us? We're all (or mostly) just a bunch of sad sacks with no where to go? No plan, no pride in our work, and a plethora of drug problems? And you think it's US that hates YOU?!

Let me tell you something, we can see this attitude on you from a mile away, no matter how well you *think* you hide it. So before I even say anything else, I'm just going to say that some of you need to stop what you're doing right now, take a hot bath, and give yourself an attitude adjustment about how you look at the women who are kind enough to let you enjoy this hobby. I am the QUEEN of "let's get a nice hotel, and snacks, and drinks, and an outfit I think this one specific client will like, and then let's hang out for 40 minutes past our time and I'll just deal with my assistant later", and even I become a clock watcher when you come in, plop on the bed, and give me the "time for you to make my day!" look. There is very little else that makes you more repulsive to us than the attitude that we poor little hookers had better impress you, and you will NOT get the same service. If you're seeing well rated girls and constantly feeling like you're not getting what you're paying for, then it's probably because of you. Not them.

Second I would like to address the repeated insistence that if we don't like our jobs, we should go flip burgers or work in a department store. Excuse me?! I, and many others I know (40+) are very well educated women. I'm talking women with higher degrees in nursing, social work, business, psychology, chemistry, even full out doctors. We would never even be looked at for a position like that, let alone apply for one. So please, lose the insulting "none of you are even a tiny bit good enough to do anything but suck my balls and tell me I'm wonderful" attitude.

And then of course, the extras. What extras do you really want? Did you know that the huge majority of us would LOVE to know exactly what would make you happy? Do you have any idea how hard it is to "blow someone's mind" when they don't make a peep to show us if we're doing a good job or not? If you would like something special, bring it or ask us to provide it. Explicit discussions may be a no-no, but a simple "could you be wearing this?" or "I really like such and such snacks and this kind of wine" can make a big difference for both of us. We have to try to become what a complete stranger wants in a very short amount of time. Any insight on your part makes everything so much easier for us, and in turn better for you.

I would like to know why our "plans" keep coming up on these posts. What in the world do you care? Does it somehow add to your experience if she has an "acceptable" plan? Do you look at the waiter, shake your head, and say "what a dumbass. No plans at all after this."? What about the receptionist? Your favorite athlete? Or even you own boss? I can pretty much guarantee that you guys don't give two shits about everyone else's plans, so why is ours more fodder for you to look down on us? Whether our plan is to earn enough to buy a bag at the mall, pay off some debt, put ourselves through school, buy a business, or plan for retirement, it is none of your business and you will never truly know.

Stop looking for ways to judge us and just enjoy the time you have together. I'm not really sure what is so hard about that? The amount of disrespect for women shown on this thread alone is truly disgusting, and I'm so sorry that some poor girl was at one point trying her best while you just looked down and thought about what a stupid, dirty little street walker she was. You get what you give, guys. Don't expect us to show you a huge amount of appreciation and admiration if this is the way you're going to think about us. We can tell. I promise.

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