I read an article by her years ago that talked about this... that's where I got it... and it was signed with her name. That's all I know But it was so shocking to me, I never forgot it, altho it did make me ill to read it... it surely is possible that she's recanted since!

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Nicole

I feel like this site is trying to make her look good... here are a few quotes from articles by her on their own site...

(http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/PornMen&Boys1.html)

"The dimension of menace is especially important in enabling men to value bits and pieces of themselves. Sperm, for instance, is seen as an agent of death, the woman's death, even when it is viewed as the originator of life, male life. Childbearing is glorified in part because women die from it."

"The obsessive belief that the penis/sperm, once lodged in the woman, is a male fetus, together with the erotic dimension of the penis/sperm as agent of female death, accounts in large part for the continuing male commitment to forced female pregnancy. The vagina/womb, as Erik Erikson articulated, is perceived by the male as empty space that must be filled by a penis or a child (male until proven otherwise, in which case devalued), which is the penis realized--or the woman herself is empty, that is, a nonentity, worthless."

"Force--the violence of the male confirming his masculinity--is seen as the essential purpose of the penis, its animating principle as it were, just as sperm ideally impregnates the woman either without reference to or against her will."

"With a disgust common to all feminists who have tried to be participants in the so-called humanism of men, only to discover through bitter experience that the culture of males does not allow honest female participation, Virginia Woolf wrote: "I detest the masculine point of view. I am bored by his heroism, virtue, and honour. I think the best these men can do is not to talk about themselves anymore."

It's a pretty interetsing article, seems to sum up how she feels about men... and all I can say is that I did indeed read an article at one point by her that DID state "All acts of sex with a woman involve rape," probably not in those EXACT words... but had I not read it myself I wouldn't have posted it.  I think this site is SUPPORTING her and thus trying to present her in a more positive light, but reading her own articles on the site say some pretty strong things about her feelings towards men and sex between men and women.

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Nicole

Waaaaaayyyyyyy down on the second page of the article she wrote about het sex, she DOES say how much she enjoyed having sex with men for a while... and then says...

"I did not feel what was being done to me until, many years later, I read Kate Millets Sexual Politics. Something in me moved then, shifted, changed forever. Suddenly I discovered something inside me, to feel what I had felt somewhere but had had no name for, no place for. I began to feel what was being done to me, to experience it, to recognize it, to find the right names for it. I began to know that there was nothing good or romantic or noble in the myths I was living out; that, in fact, the effect of these myths was to deprive me of my bodily intergrity, to cripple me creatively, to take me from myself. I began to change in a way so fundamental that there was no longer any place for me in the world--I was no longer a woman as I had been a woman before. I experienced this change as an agony. There was no place for me anywhere in the world. I began to feel anger, rage, bitterness, despair, fury, absolute fury, as I began to know that they, those writers and their kind, had taken cruelty and rape and named it for me, "life," "sex," "lovemaking," "freedom," and I hated them for it, and I hate them for it still."


Woo Hoo!!!!!
This girl has some issues methinks.
Now see what you've started? I'm getting myself all horrified by Andrea Dworkin all over again! You should read this stuff it is kinda fascinating in the same way people rubberneck at car crashes... =:O

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Nicole

And I promise I'm done!
Remember this is from the SAME SITE, this is the article they use to say she DOES NOT believe that sex is rape.

"I am saying that my body was colonialized, owned by others, imperialists who robbed it of its richest resources--possessed, taken, conquered, all the words those male writers use to describe ecstatic sexuality. And I am saying that I was that slave woman, that caricature of a human being, that sevant whose core and vessel belonged to those who had conquered it. I was that slave woman who accepted the conquerors naming of my experience and called it, their dreadful brutality, their possessing and taking, "lovemaking," "ecstasy," "freedom." That was the woman you knew."

So she's dancing around it here but please believe she has written many more articles, books, etc, than they have posted on this site.

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Nicole

I didn’t even have to read the articles or Nicole’s comments to see that the statements on the front page were nothing more than propaganda. The sensationalized, absolute language is obvious, as Nicole says; they are trying to make her look good. Whenever I see writing that is designed to aggrandize a person, as this site is doing, I immediately suspect that the opposite is likely true or that they’re hiding something. “Thou dost protest too loudly.”

I have a sister who shares this opinion that all sex is rape. She likes sex, however (and who shouldn’t?) so she’s in a constant conflict with herself. The whole thing is seriously twisted.

rik