There is a post about a guy being so good its free for next session, providers becoming girlfriends, etc.
Look, (I know, an unpopular statement amongst providers), but I'm not paying you for sex. I'm paying for you to go away. I don't need the drama. I'm paying to avoid the bullshit of asking a girl out, setting up a time and place, dinner and the other BS that goes with dating - putting up with her bullshit, after sex conversation, being pinged about calling her, why haven't you called her, and the list goes on. Yes there is a lot of 'free' sex out there, but its not really free. I can always make more money, I can't make more time. We have a finite amount of time on this earth, we can't gather more time, we can gather more money. I see people throw time away all to frequently to save a few bucks, its stupid. If you don't think there is a lot of "free sex" out there, then you're not looking or even trying for that matter. Maybe you're a troll, so go buy a BMW. Seems to help my friends who are trolls with getting hot girls. The cost is your time and effort. My friend has questioned my hobby. He dates a lot and gets a lot of 'free' sex. I ask, how much does it cost to go out on dates, and how many times before he has sex with a girl. He then dates her for a few weeks and then moves on. The cost might be slightly less, and not by much, but his time investment is far higher - and drama costs are pretty fucking up there, too. If you want a loyal companion and somebody that will stay with you through thick and thin and listen your bullshit, get a dog.... Now run off and catch your hero, on some Two and a Half Men reruns.
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Such a witty retort and helpful post. You're a winner.
It's quite simple, and comparable to the surplus of reviews that assert they've brought a girl to multiple orgasms. It's a confidence boost to write about that stuff (whether it's factual or not), and receive positive praise from peers.
Perhaps, getting flustered over random bravado-style posts is time-wasted. It's better to spend that time seeking out your next playdate with one of these gorgeous women, no?
Even on a regular date Sex isn't Free. No girl on this planet will go out with a guy let alone have Sex with him if he has no money. Not going to happen. The only Sex that's Free is with yourself.
but you have to take matters into your own hands.
Or a prostrate exam if you do not have a copay.
One doctor I used to have would say "Be grateful I have small fingers."
My retort was "that's why I'm disappointed! -"
I now see a woman doctor who has very long fingers.
Way, way back when I got my first job out of college I was given complete physical before actually reporting for work. It was free, that’s how long ago it was. So... there I am, a 21 year old, being asked to bend over a table. I had no fucking clue and when this guy gave me a prostate exam I yelped. Now.... why give a prostate exanm to a fucking 21 year old....unless you want to. I laugh now but didn’t then.
Female doctor. Tiny fingers for the old prostate exam. She keeps telling me I don't have to tip her afterwards. She will always do her best regardless.
My stock response is: I've had better.
My doctor is gay.... I told him if I felt both hands on my shoulders we were gonna have a problem.... he thought about it a second and then busted up laughing.... said guys sometimes joke about the exam but nobody ever said that to him.
I will admit it, I pay for sex, but I am also paying for sex "on my terms" which includes having the woman leave afterwards, not to return unless and until I want her to.
That said, I "could" get laid the old fashioned way, but i have no delusions that I could have anywhere near the "rock star" sex life i enjoy without paying for it.Can you honestly imagine a rather average looking guy, pushing 60 who could get a different 20 something year old hottie every single day of the week without paying for it?
It's hardly an "ouch". It's more like a "yawn"
You guys crack me up at how much thought and emphasis goes into these posts of yours.....
The guys that do pay for no strings time and companionship aren’t writing posts complaining about the guys that don’t.....?
There is a post about a guy being so good its free for next session, providers becoming girlfriends, etc.
Look, (I know, an unpopular statement amongst providers), but I'm not paying you for sex. I'm paying for you to go away. I don't need the drama. I'm paying to avoid the bullshit of asking a girl out, setting up a time and place, dinner and the other BS that goes with dating - putting up with her bullshit, after sex conversation, being pinged about calling her, why haven't you called her, and the list goes on.
Yes there is a lot of 'free' sex out there, but its not really free. I can always make more money, I can't make more time. We have a finite amount of time on this earth, we can't gather more time, we can gather more money. I see people throw time away all to frequently to save a few bucks, its stupid.
If you don't think there is a lot of "free sex" out there, then you're not looking or even trying for that matter. Maybe you're a troll, so go buy a BMW. Seems to help my friends who are trolls with getting hot girls. The cost is your time and effort. My friend has questioned my hobby. He dates a lot and gets a lot of 'free' sex. I ask, how much does it cost to go out on dates, and how many times before he has sex with a girl. He then dates her for a few weeks and then moves on. The cost might be slightly less, and not by much, but his time investment is far higher - and drama costs are pretty fucking up there, too. If you want a loyal companion and somebody that will stay with you through thick and thin and listen your bullshit, get a dog.
Those offering free sex, please PM me.
Thank you,
DT
was with my second wife.
70% of divorces are initiated by wives because ... payday.
It takes money to keep Ramon the pool boy in speedos.
I'm going to say it is! 
Steph XO
If I had it would have pulled the post as well as the ones below it and I didn't want to do that.
Conan doesn't always win.
Hah, my 2nd wife was cheaper than my first. Aside from basically not having any sex for the last two years of a sixteen year marriage.
The divorce cost the $480 filing fee. That's all.
Now the first, that was a whole different story. Bu, she was supposed to get the house and alimony.
Head on straight, in my experience, there is MUCH less drama having a provider as an outside girlfriend than a civvie girl.
Head on straight, in my experience, there is MUCH less drama having a provider as an outside girlfriend than a civvie girl.
I'm seeing two providers OTC. They're both sweethearts. Except that both have baby daddies that know what they do for money. One of them has threatened me with serious bodily harm. He thinks I'm pimping his girl.
..... an hour or two at a time.
Getting into any OTC time with anyone will have real world drama. For the monger or the heaux
I have found this to be mainly true as well. I won't go so far as to say that all my "real" relationships with hookers or ex hookers have been "drama free" but CDL didn't claim that either. All he (and I) are saying is that they tend to be LESS drama filled, not more.
Payment is in kind or in kindness. My love is more expensive than my money.
Celebs and rich or handsome guys who have women throwing themselves at them can probably honestly say they pay to have them go away. I think pretty much everyone else, not so much.
And while p4p does cut out all the time suck of dating, it's not a given that someone willing to put in that time would still be able to score the same level chicks as they can with p4p.
So I think there are three general tiers of guys seeking variety -- those who get women throwing themselves at them, those who can score with the investment of time, and those who use money as a lubricant. I count myself in the third group. Such is life.
Yep - put me down for Tier 3.
but I do in fact pay them for their Time & Companionship.
As a Shy Guy with No Game, Providers let me skip past the initial approach (which I suck at) and go right to the Good Stuff; hugging, holding, exploration of our bodies and conversation. And yes, I wanna have sex - but I’m in no hurry to get there.
Not trying to be a brown-nosing, white knight or anything, but it’s that sensual interaction I truly crave. I only wish I had more disposable income to allow for more multi-hour sessions. -sigh-
I’m certainly not built for a 15 minute Poke N Run, that’s for sure.
Yeesh. Must depend on the caliber of gentleman. I don't consistently sleep with girls I'm too repulsed to interact with after getting a nut off. I find that there are a lot of well-adjusted women who date casually and have a mutual interest in uncomplicated sex. If you're not meeting them, it's probably you that's broken, not dating.
Dammmn zorrf - you’re blazin’ away with both barrels on /this/ thread, ain’tcha?
But anyway, I certainly have to agree with the above statement; I have to actually like the lady I’m with - we /have/ to click or it’s a No Go. Mere physical attraction just isn’t enough for me.
You have to be broken to some degree if you're in the "Pay To Play" game. Traditional Dating has never worked for me. Too many games and crap to deal with. Pay To Play to a certain extent avoids all the pitfalls and drama of Traditional Dating. At least both parties in Pay To Play know what to expect from each other.
I'm awkward and shy and have difficulty really going after girls that I'd really like to hang out and form relationships with. Even when I do go on dates that at least seem to have been successful I don't get laid either.
I'm definitely paying for the sex, otherwise I would pretty much never get laid otherwise. It's rather simple: I want sex, these girls do sex for money, therefore I pay them for sex.
I feel like trying to say "No but I pay them to LEAVE" is just ego boosting and self-reassurance. I don't have time for that, I just want the girl to get on her knees and suck my cock, I don't delude myself over what I'm doing, why she's there, or why I'm doing it.