TER General Board

How long do you expect a reference to last?
QueenBia See my TER Reviews 1047 reads
posted
1 / 20

I don’t ask for references. If you, do how long is a reference good for?  

Up to 3 months
6 months
1 year
Forever

People change during life events. How long is a reference good for you?

inicky46 61 Reviews 61 reads
posted
2 / 20
coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 60 reads
posted
3 / 20

for a provider I have not seen within 60 days.  If that's the case, I would see her again before using her as a ref.  It's not reasonable to expect a provider to remember the details of seeing you for longer than that unless you saw her three or four times within a year.  

 
The other side of the question is "why should she give you a ref if you have only seen her once and now you are moving on?"

Rafl 61 reads
posted
4 / 20

But if the client paid and wasn’t an asshole that’s all that should matter.

holystonethedeck 91 Reviews 58 reads
posted
5 / 20

Why would she need to remember details of the encounter?  

 
Generalities should be the only things necessary - safe, respectful, etc.  

 
One lady I've seen blind carbons the client when she responds to a reference request. She seems to use a standard format and writes something like "yes I have seen him - no issues, no problems, he's a gentleman".  

 
I almost never need references but I wouldn't use any lady for that purpose unless I've seen her within a couple of months. I also wouldn't use a lady for a reference unless I've seen her at least a few times.

durran421 64 reads
posted
6 / 20

I asked someone who I see somewhat regularly if she would be ok with being a reference and she got upset at me! She went on to say.....NO, I want you to come see ME!  
Now who was I to argue with that. So I said ...OK then, that settles that, see ya soon!! 🤣
That turned out to be one helluva great visit too!!

RespectfulRobert 61 reads
posted
7 / 20

Some ladies limit it to an actual number, like 3 references per each time you see them. I have never really had an issue. Almost all providers are very fair and kind about it. References don't just help the guy, they help providers who request them as well.

j86568 171 Reviews 65 reads
posted
8 / 20

I feel 6 months to a year is appropriate, but it should also depend on how positive an experience it was. And how often repeats. Some guys can only see 1 or 2 girls a year, others see every week. Financial, work, home constraints can all prevent guy from seeing girls more frequently and it would suck to not have references vouch for you because of the break between sessions.

More than a year gets dicier because a lot can happen to a person over time.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 54 reads
posted
9 / 20

Wouldn't you consider being safe and respectful to be "details" you would like them to remember about you?  I agree a blow-by-blow recollection is not necessary, but I didn't say it was.  But I would add that besides safe, respectful, and gentlemanly, I want them to remember that I'm generous.  For me, generous tipping has always opened doors and gotten me priority with providers.  After all, they are doing this for the money, so why pretend that is not an important factor.  I have tipped every provider I have seen, even if I don't plan to repeat.  That's how you make yourself memorable when it comes to relying on references.

Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 66 reads
posted
10 / 20

I would let it go until I don't receive any calls from a Hobbyists.

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 53 reads
posted
11 / 20

I no longer accept references for screening, but I will give them upon request. I do let guys know that I am always willing to give one, but you need to ASK me first and also let me know who is going to be contacting me. This is for your protection. Your wife/GF/disgruntled ex could pretend to be a provider and contact me which we all know could turn into a shit show for you and for me. When I do receive a request I will be honest as to when I saw you, so if it was 2 months ago or 2 years ago that is the info I will be giving. If we parted on not such good terms, kind of like when you get fired from a job, probably not best to use me as a reference. I will be honest and I will tell the provider why I have decided not to see you again. (Yes, this has happened!!)

coachmyster 16 Reviews 49 reads
posted
12 / 20

I have had several steadies over the years. Made the mistake of asking one to provide a reference for me. Her response was I never want to see you again.

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 47 reads
posted
13 / 20

Whoa....that is a bit extreme. And should never happen. But women are creatures I don't even fully understand and I am a woman.  lol  
My regular hair dresser was on a vacation so she referred me to another gal that works at the same salon.  I think she did a much better job, so yes, I am still unsure how I am going to somehow make an appointment to have Ashley do my hair now without Amy getting upset. Women. AAAAHHHH!!!!!

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 61 reads
posted
14 / 20

I had a reference turned down because she said the referee hadn't signed on to p411 in two weeks (which wasn't actually true, she signed on daily.) I realized at that point she wasn't actually taking references and I moved on.

TiannaTemptation See my TER Reviews 58 reads
posted
15 / 20

Maybe it was something else she didn’t want to mention?  Just throwing it out there.  

Let’s say you were to give me a provider reference and that provider has a reputation/reviews indicating their standards do not align with mine. That would cause me to not accept that reference. I might look at their site, ads - depending on how they present I may not trust their judgement.

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 56 reads
posted
16 / 20

I have never required references because of what you just clearly stated. All providers are not created equally. Why would I trust anyone I do not know personally? The only way to bypass my screening is if your friends with my girlfriends 👯‍♀️, or my better half.  

I prefer to do my own homework when vetting potential new friends. I have never relied on p411 to screen for my safety. I have noticed an entitlement with its members even if their okays are no longer active, or they have not been active theirselves in the last year. I’m on p411, but I don’t trust them to vet people properly for my personal peace.  ✌🏽

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 46 reads
posted
17 / 20

I can't read her mind. That's what she told me. She asked for my private info. I actually have given that in the past, but because they were up front about it.  She was obviously not interested in referrals but didn't say so directly. I bailed at that point because she was not someone I could trust after that.

holystonethedeck 91 Reviews 55 reads
posted
18 / 20

I rarely need references, but I have met a few ladies who have told me that they'd be a reference for me anytime. I've been using P411 for the most part and have found it to be valuable in enabling me to see the occasional new (for me) provider.

 
I would tend to use ladies that I have seen recently (within a month or two) or that I have been fairly regular with and have seen at least half a dozen times.

 
I wouldn't even think to use someone that I've seen only once unless it was very recently.

paygedivine 47 reads
posted
19 / 20

after some recent issues I have experienced- references don't mean a whole lot, some women may find a behavior uncomfortable while others don't. Its the ebb flow and the business I think, I will be happy to provide a reference, but the few times I've ever tried to get a reference the other pro doesn't respond, so I screen how I screen now.

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 52 reads
posted
20 / 20

Same. I am happy to give them for clients but I have made it very clear that they have to send me a message first letting me know what provider will be contacting me. This is for *their* safety, as I am not going to give out your info to someone without your permission. Some guys are very good at keeping on top of this, but some are not.  
The references I was getting from gents were also very hit and miss. Some guys were super good at getting me all of the provider info along with the dates they saw the provider so that was awesome and easy.  
Other times I would get "I saw a provider named Kayla like 3 years ago. She worked out of some dumpy motel on the southside of Milwaukee." What the hell am I supposed to do with that?? And when I would ask them how they expected me to contact the provider with that info they would respond "you actually contact  her?" Yes, yes we actually do contact the provider. And yes, if you are lying, that will be an instant no go for an appointment.  
What really sealed the deal was a post by Bia who saw a post on twitter about a gal who saw a guy with a reference and he paid her 2K in fake money. In my entire time as a provider I have been shorted $20 and $50. I cannot even imagine how this gal must have felt losing 2k. And to have no recourse to find the dirt ball is just not a chance I am going to take.

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