
This happened to me twice lately. I read reviews, did my homework, but in person my mileage didn't go nearly as far as other review writers. Or even what their website/ad states. When in doubt, I could not go into details over the phone since most providers hesitate talking menu items over the phone... and sometimes even in person.
I completely understand that providers have their own boundaries. However, when three reviews before me include dfk yet she says "no kissing" or, all reviews mention bbbj yet she says "everything covered" what could I do? How do you feel when this happens?What do you do? (Stay? Leave? Bargain? Write a review?)
Is it because some reviews are fake?
What can I do to avoid this in the future
A very good advice. Thank you.
I am ashamed I didn't think it before.
I am trying a number of local providers because I am looking for a travel companion to Hawaii in January. These new attempts remind me my first days in hobby.
...but that sure sounds like fun to me...
I am not new, I guess... Doing this since 2010. After a few hits and misses I decided to be a regular for my favorite provider. If only she weren't busy in January.
...look at it like a series of new adventures...
For the love of God, don't tell him about Hawaii.
I have spidey-sense for these sorts of things I really do! I'm just sitting here in the oh sooooo exciting Kansas City airport and all of sudden I felt a tingle :::MUST. CHECK. GD BOARD. NOW!!!:::
And now I know why.... HAWAII!!!!
Bwahahahahahaha!
Seriously, just put out an ISO either on your local board or the ISO Board and you'll have GFEs flooding your inbox for the opportunity to accompany you. Trust me.
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox
I actually did post in ISO, but most replies were from vegas, atlanta, chicago. I live in the seattle area, so I could not possibly see them 3-5 times until January to figure out a weeklong compatibility
Look inward for the real problem, not outward.
If it happens every now and again there are many possibilities of why it happened. If it happens to you ALL the time, I would invest in a toothbrush, a bar of soap and some deodorant. It's most likely a hygiene issue on your part.
I don't want to be harsh (ok, maybe I do) but if your junk stinks you are lucky to get even a CBJ, much less a BBBJ. If your breath stinks, ditto on getting DFK.
You asked, so here's your answer. Wash your stankin ass before seeing a lady. Actually wash your ass EVERYTIME you leave the house, but ESPECIALLY before having sex.
Other people including women in my life always said I have very good hygiene. Plus, I always brush and shower before a date.
However, you might be right about looking inward. I have a big nose. Maybe I am not as attractive as other hobbyists.
and that is vetting your potential "vacation mate" before taking an extended trip with a provider.
One of my worst trips ever was a ten day trip to Hawaii with a provider, and I wasn't even paying here as we were actually "dating" It was one of those situations where I wished I were paying, so I would have felt justified putting her nagging ass on the next plane back to the mainland.
Yes, do yourself a favor and make sure you and your "date" are very compatible before taking an extended trip together.
I don't think a big nose is your problem. Maybe you just hit a bad run of luck? or maybe there is something else about you that is causing your "bad luck" You might try reaching out to the ladies that you seemed to have issues with and simply lay your cards on the table. "Did I catch you on a bad day? or was it me. please be candid with me because if it is me, I want to do better in the future" You might get an honest answer that way.
I believe nagging will be minimal since we will stay at a five star resort, but who knows? One week is a long time. Worst case, I will come back with a bronze tan and a tired right hand.
Vetting was a good advice I got here on forums. I even plan to have a long (4-hour plus) dinner date as soon as I find a consistent gal I like.
Ironically I only was paying $300 a night for a thousand dollar suite, because I got upgraded for free, but according to her, "her friend" could have done better. That very first night, I knew I was in for a long ten days. I doubt that will happen to you as you will be her client, not her BF, and providers are less likely to give clients the "true GFE" lol
Still, I would strongly suggest you have at least one overnight before committing to seven in a row. A week with someone you like is a long time, a week with someone incompatible will seem like a lifetime.
BTW, I have had other, much more successful trips with hookers, some I was dating, others I was paying, but I have a much shorter threshold than a week. For me, after the third day of "togetherness" I am ready to trade her in on a newer model. I guess that's why I am still so happily divorced and plan on staying that way.
It wouldn't be GFE unless she complained about everything. I also dated one of those, but she had no idea she was doing it until we had the "come to Jesus" talk. That only fixed things for a brief time and I ended up giving her the pink slip. Funny thing was ... she was a retired escort.
I'm seeing a common thread here.
We both have lousy taste in GFs.
but that's only because the bar has been set so low most hookers can trip over it.
I am convinced that the longest I can stay with a woman without wanting to chew my arm off is between 2-3 days.
The old saying is: "Use your left hand -- it'll feel like someone else is doing it."
Good luck with your search.
Vetting was a good advice I got here on forums. I even plan to have a long (4-hour plus) dinner date as soon as I find a consistent gal I like.
Invest in yourself and your peace of mind. Buy an hour from one of the ladies and ask her to be transparent, honest and frank. It will be money well spent. I'm sure the lady will find your bravery refreshing, also.
Best of luck!
Friend,
Lady's, in general, are not that hung up on looks...especially "professional" ladies. They are more interested in confidence, gentleness, kindness, personality, and being good in bed.
If looks were a prerequisite, most of the men on this board would be co-signing your post.
Hang in there, work on your game, choose your lady friends carefully, and have fun.
Peace!
TONY
You know what they say about guys with big noses ... they can fill up a tissue in one blow.
Your situation sounds quite unfortunate, and it seems like there may be a communication issue going on somewhere. I'm not sure how other girls communicate with their guests, but I actually prefer my friends to let me know upfront what type of experience they're hoping for, and I try to create an environment where they feel comfortable enough doing so. That doesn't mean that your initial email should state "can I get bbbj" for example, but after she has screened you and agreed to meet you, I can't imagine any feasible excuse for not communicating about your meeting. Additionally, although some women have done certain things in the past with other guests, it does not mean she's comfortable doing it with everyone. Again, that's where communication comes in. The best thing to do is be open with your friends after they have approved your meeting. If she still doesn't feel comfortable discussing what your time with her will be like, despite agreeing to meet with you, perhaps you're not as compatible as you initially thought. Good luck!
Even if he is screened? Because he might not get a date doing that. I will not leave a trace of anything in an email...EVER
That still might not get him what other guys got if she has never met him. What happens if she does this and he shows up rancid dick and she has already, in an email, said she would BBBJ? You might not care but other hookers might worry about putting their mouth on something way less than fresh.
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You should go back and actually read my comment. At no point did I say anything about asking specifically for sexual acts in an email. But there should be some communication as to what type of experience he's hoping to gain from his encounter. Obviously if his hygiene is not up to par, no matter what's stated in an email or a review, certain services will be off limits. Secondly, in the event that he does state sexual acts in an email, it's not any more or any less traceable than witting a review, sending a text, or having an account here. Everything we do, especially on the Internet, is traceable back to its source.
No way in hell would I ever put any acronyms in a text, phone conversation or email, there is no mention on my website either...I have no reviews. Even if I have screened the guy. Call me paranoid, call me careful, call me whatever you feel like, I will not ever leave a trace of what goes on or might go on for anyone to see.
If you are comfortable explaining to a john what the session entails, then keep doing what you are doing, because it clearly works for you. And I sincerely hope many guys contact you who feel the same way the OP does because you seem to be more than happy to let them know what's to come before they get there.
So how do you communicate what his time will be like so that he is comforted and knows what he MIGHT get?
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If your mind is not creative enough to conjure up what that conversation looks like on your own, then my explaining it will be of no use to you. And if you think your website and email are not traceable back to you, you're highly misinformed.
I'm not going to entertain your conversation any longer, nor am I going to stoop to meaningless chatter with a perfect stranger. You can handle things the way you want, and I can handle things the way I want. 2+8=10, so does 1+9, and 6+4. Just because someone's approach is different than yours does not mean their end result is less effective. Have a good night.
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I was not discussing the possibility of email and website transparency. I was referencing the addition of sex acts via full text or acronym, in communication.
Nice to see that you are willing to back up your suggestion. I am not interested but since this being a discussion forum, others might find it helpful. Maybe you have nothing valuable to back up your comment?
You do have meaningless chatter with strangers...this board, unless you know everyone.
I was all for a different approach, it is in my last post, you must have missed that part. I was not discussing effectiveness just pointing out the possible dangers...remember I did say that if you want to give out exact acts in communication and it works for you, then carry on
and it seems to most often boil down to just a few most likely problems:
1. Hygiene - Gag said it; no need to repeat.
2. Your choice of companion - You may be looking in the wrong place for companions, or choosing to avoid providers that would be a better match for your needs for some reason.
3. Attitude - I didn't notice anything in your post or reviews that seemed particularly off-putting, but appreciation and respect can go a long way to improve (or ruin) a date.
In any case, I'd agree with GaG that the first place to look is in the mirror.
Perhaps simply ask after a session, and let the advice guide improvements in your next session?
If I was perfectly clean (which is always the case), then I just move on. Sometimes your just not a match or the reviews are fakes. It happens.
and I have no good explanation for it except the provider was having a bad day. I really don't think hygiene and attitude were the problem as other providers tell me I'm fine there. In fact, the "ymmv" thing usually tilts in my favor, i.e. I often get services not on providers' published menus.
I've read in other threads that sometimes one little word can trigger something that causes the date to go south. It's possible that happened in my case (it was early in my hobbying days) and I didn't realize it. Think about everything you said before and during the dates you're talking about - perhaps you said one or more of those little words?
Some providers pull this in spite of the client being showered, groomed, and a gentleman. I'd ask if I misunderstood her reviews, but that's just going to get a BS response most times. I certainly don't let it slide. Put it into her review, but be ready for the White Knights and various Trrholes to give you shit. It happens.
I completely understand that providers have their own boundaries. However, when three reviews before me include dfk yet she says "no kissing" or, all reviews mention bbbj yet she says "everything covered" what could I do?
How do you feel when this happens?
What do you do? (Stay? Leave? Bargain? Write a review?)
Is it because some reviews are fake?
What can I do to avoid this in the future?
What did you eat before the session? If a guy ate garlic there is no way on hell I will kiss...yes it is on my website.
Are you cut or uncut? I will not BBBJ an uncut dick.
No hooker in her right mind will agree to do anything until the guy is standing before her and she can smell his freshness or not and see his junk. Just because some other guys got something you didn't does not mean she HAS to do that with every guy. Reviews are not a guarantee of services.
The thing about garlic, is that it is not the garlic in your mouth that is the issue, but the fact that the garlic odor gets into and stays in the blood for several days, and the odor is passed on to your breath in your lungs.
You should abstain from anything with garlic (Ketchup is loaded with it.) for a week before your next date. Pop a few Tic-Tacs before you arrive as well
I'd add asparagus to the list to avoid for several days before a date. Your pee and I suppose your ejaculate reeks of it too.
Won't eat it 3 days prior to a session though, almost makes me puke to pee it out can't imagine my cum afterwards.
I told a provider once that I passed on Asparagas at dinner the night of our session, and she thanked me, hell yes she did
I've run into a couple of providers who had garlic seeping out of their pores and I could tell they have it in their diet on a regular basis. AND I won't even start on smokers ...
I don't eat much garlic, and certainly not prior to an appointment, and I'm cut.
I guess this means that I could be a HT client? As long as you pack that attitude into your blowjob, I'm cool with it.
Gotta love ya darlin.
Here's to you, and here's to me, should you and I ever disagree, fuck you and here's to me.
I am quite sure we'd disagree at some point, we just need to channel that aggression to the right point. Oh hell yes!
Look, I'll pay you for it, what the fuck.
-- David Lee Rot
What I offer is what I state I offer. I enter the YMMV zone when I have especially good chemistry with a client. Expect to get what I say I offer in my ad. Find a provider with whom you have good chemistry.
Soft Kisses,
Lillian
Look down-hearted and confused
Because lately you’ve been startin'to lose
Losin'out on everything you might try to do
Bad luck’s there, it’s got a hold on you…
--Harold Melvin & The Blue Note
I appreciate it that people have their own chemistry and everything can be ymmv, but when someone gets great access or service it can be frustrating. What I do personally is not see that person again. I can write a review, but then people will fault you with not discussing this issue with her in the session (something I never do) before complaining about it later.
Remember a while back a hooker mentioned an old guy who wore depends but only showered 3 times a week and changed said depends twice a day or close to it? He bitched at the lack of service hookers gave him when their reviews said otherwise.
Well one hooker did the old fossil a solid, or thought she was, when she alerted him to the stench wafting from his person. All she got for telling the disgusting relic the truth was a shit review.
So, chatting about the bad hygiene does not bode well for the hooker. In fact it is best that she go the YMMV route and HOPE the trick never comes back.
When hookers tell the truth why it rarely helps them, it often hurts them. So until some ass-faced tricks behave like decent human beings and own up to their shit, nefarious shit will continue to go down as really, what other choice does a hooker have when confronted with a repulsively dirty trick? And no, no hooker should have to deal with something like that...EVER.
Thank you for implying I am a dirty asshole. I am sorry I did not go into detail as to what I was not offered and what the situation was like. The last time I did not receive a service as reviewed frequently on the provider I was in Paris enjoying a 2-day threesome with 2 women I flew in for the occasion. Both were reviewed to have offered CIM, but only one gave it to me while the other didn't. I did not ask her why and I have not seen her since. If this was something she offered only by request, I missed out on it because I did not explicitly ask for it. Maybe there was a smell only one of them detected? I wouldn't know, I know that I shower/shave multiple times a day when I book someone and probably go through a large bottle of mouthwash in 2 or 3 days. All I can do is clean myself and scrub thoroughly, without any specific feedback its impossible for me to know if I missed something.
normal hygiene.
if they dont like it they should speak up.
too many other ladies who like their job.
that is what I would do
Some guys seem to exaggerate on reviews or get fooled by her professionalism.
Avoid it? No just keep trying to find the lady that meets your needs.
Asking them why their reviews stated these menu items that you were interested in, but clearly are not available. If you don't get what you thought you were going to get, I would write a review stating that. To many guys write favorable reviews when they didn't have the experience they actually the said they did. It is a shame.
I do not discuss things like this over email/phone/text until I have met you and am comfortable with you. Once I am then we can talk about whatever you want.