TER General Board

How did we get here
txBaseball05 4 Reviews 3227 reads
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1 / 54

I have been out of the hobby for some time sort of.  Serious relationship, then Covid came and this biz nearly died.  Still saw a couple of hometown favorites that shared a mutual trust.  As Covid went away I started to shop again.  When I first started the key advice was to see only well reviewed ladies by long time reviewing clients.
Today everyone wants a deposit.  They ask for it in ridiculous ways Venmo accounts that have photos of themselves nude.  Or cash app with very pointed names.
Cheap advice, name your account marketing or accounting services.  Something that fits nicely in business accounting.
My biggest surprise is when asked for a photo of myself holding two forms of ID.  I guess I may have answered my own question in that we can just say NO at any point we don’t feel comfortable.  That would be about 70% of ladies i want to see.  I drew the line at photos and ids!!

Also what’s with the lack of reviews nowadays?

Send 400 dollars to “@hot blonde beach babe”.  See you on the 12th at 6pm.  
“This provider has no reviews listed”. “Age hidden”

Times have changed.

RespectfulRobert 77 reads
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2 / 54

It is no longer a buyers market and has clearly become a sellers one. Covid, Sesta and twitter has changed all that. It's been an adjustment for many to be sure, but some price points and locations aren't affected as others. It has greatly affected me, no doubt and I had to adapt. It is what it is.

alexhumboldt 91 reads
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3 / 54

Yeah, far more difficult than it used to be with deposits, extreme screening, and high rates.  I guess I’ll just continue to see sugar babies instead.  

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 73 reads
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4 / 54

If you're smart about where you shop, the same with any goods or services.  Men, especially those new to this biz, are just not smart how the approach getting into it, so sellers have learned they can take advantage of the low-information customers.    

 
God gave man a brain and a penis, but only enough blood to run one at a time.   Lol

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 85 reads
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5 / 54

You grow & evolve, or you stay in your comfort zone. As a respectable provider who has stellar reviews and I have required a deposit to book, since 2010 it’s nothing new. Don’t send deposits if you don’t want to. I never advise sending deposits to an unknown provider.  Safety is a high priority for me.

There are exceptions to every rule. If you know a provider who is my family, or personal friend & they will vouch for you I can bypass screening because I only trust references that I know personally. Sharing is caring. I try to make friends with providers Worldwide. When I see someone who I follow visiting a city I cater to I will reach out and buy them a drink, or a meal to meet. I have met many very nice females in this business. Long ago I had provider only meet & greets, and one was at a bowling alley fun. I love to meet reputable women in this industry.  

QB4coaching is my Venmo & cashapp is Bia4lol

I have a consulting business in real life. I’ve been very successful running a business from home online marketing & sales for over a decade not related to this hobby. Find a provider who fits your needs. I love my friends & look forward to making many more friends for life here on TER. Cheers! Xoxo 💋

nevertoolarge 28 Reviews 82 reads
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6 / 54

while i feel many have priced themselves out of the mass market .. however it must be there enough gentleman who will pay these higher rates and screening requirements ..  so if so then god bless these women who can obtain those.    

as for me,  i have pretty much abandoned most of the pro crowd and now prefer finding nice Sugar Babies.    but each has their own pros and cons ..   there is no one size fits all.

RH1984 45 Reviews 80 reads
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7 / 54

Two things I haven’t done and will NEVER DO:

1.  Text while driving
2.  Pay a provider a deposit

Long live the king!!! 🤴🤴🤴

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 84 reads
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8 / 54

Classy can come at all price points.  High prices alone are not an automatic indication that a particular provider is high class.  

 
Limiting your exposure on deposits is the key.  Once you have indie providers who will give you a reference to a new provider, you should not have to keep showing your ID to every woman you want to see.  I always have to ladies that I have seen not more than 90 days ago that will give me a reference with new indies that I am interested in seeing.  If a girl absolutely will not see you unless you give her your personal information, then my solution is simple . . . .  I draw a line through her name and go on to the next lady on my list.  There are more providers than I can possibly see in my remaining lifetime, so there are NO providers I absolutely HAVE to see if they will not accept provider references for screening.  

Rafl 74 reads
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9 / 54

No one dies without pussy. Don’t pay deposits. Lots of great ones who don’t.

durran421 81 reads
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10 / 54

I don't pay deposits.... nor will I ever.
I don't disclose info I'm uncomfortable with..... I'm not about to start either.
I don't pay some insane rate....... I don't have to.

As a customer,  it's up to me to decide if the product or service is worth whatever I'm asked to do to get that product or service.
IMO, providers are going in the wrong direction and it'll will catch up to the ones who don't catch on.  
There's still PLENTY of fantastic providers who do not ask for deposits work ID, drivers license, blood type and first born ss # There are also fantastic providers without ridiculous rates which seem to be a thing lately. Be diligent in your search and you'll find them. It's just not as easy as it once was.

MsKaeleen See my TER Reviews 83 reads
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11 / 54

Just as in every business or service you need to do your diligent research. Lots of us reputable providers require a deposit because we want to make sure our time is not wasted. A reputable provider won’t steal your money. Also there are many discreet ways to send a deposit.  
On the other hand if deposit is really not your thing then go with a provider that doesn’t require one.  
Btw I’ve had clients prepay in full prior to our date and that shows my integrity and their trust in me.

helixir 42 Reviews 74 reads
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12 / 54

I really don't understand where these proclamations about "everyone" is doing this,  or "70%" are doing that come from. There appears to me--in my admittedly non-empirical study--to be quite a few providers offering a great time at fair (albeit increased) pricing without having to jump through flaming hoops. It might take more work, but anything worth having does.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 83 reads
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13 / 54

You do get a lot of thoughts/statements that seem to reflect some type of helplessness in a cruel world. That's being a bit harsh but as you say, we all still get to make our choices and what others do doesn't change that simple fact.

 
As for the how we got here aspect most here seem to have been saying the increases in prices are just due to inflation (that doesn't explain deposits of course) but I'm not sure that is the whole story. In one of the other "I hate these prices" thread someone mentioned that OF is pulling providers away. I never use cam show type things or really view porn, not really into voyeurism but if that thesis is right a lot of people might be. Or at least see that as a better value proposition. I have no idea of the rates to watch but think it's significantly less than an hour session with any escort.

 
If a lot of providers that probably would not have been making the top dollars (either looks or performance interest or just new) can make more money (one customer paying X versus 50 views paying X/30) then we're going to see prices raising more than just a reasonable inflation based rate.  

 
Not sure it is the case but thought it was a bit of an interesting hypothesis that has not been mentioned. And in a lot of ways I'm kind of, "so what" about it. Why the prices increased might be of interest but knowing doesn't make them go down. LOL

Rafl 69 reads
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14 / 54

What’s the advantage of a client seeing you who requires a deposit?  

RespectfulRobert 78 reads
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15 / 54

The advantage to the girl is that the guy is much less likely to cancel. If you are asking what the advantage is for the guy, there isn't any. It's another hoop you have to jump through to see her.  
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I send them but only to women I truly want to see, and only after I do my due diligence that she is trustworthy and only for about 25-30% of the total required fee. That is where I draw the line but many men wont ever send one and that is their right.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 72 reads
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16 / 54

"I send them but only to women I truly want to see . . . ."     How many guys do you know that send deposits to women they DON'T want to see?   I wish everyone here could have had this information earlier.  We have been sending deposits to random women we didn't want to see and have been getting ripped off.  It's a good thing we have you here to tell us how to do it correctly.   Bwahahahahaha

FlaNoName 71 reads
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17 / 54

Don't worry Robert, all the intelligent people understood what you were saying.  The Bozo who takes a snippet of your words to use against you so he can be negative is his Modus Operandi.   It would have been nice if he contributed something in a constructive way.  But of course, that isn't in his nature.

durran421 84 reads
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18 / 54

The burden and risk is 100% on the client. A client who sends a deposit is either desperate or doesn't care if he gambles that the provider seems legit and possibly loses the money(if they aren't) Im sure there are plenty of trustworthy providers who ask for a deposit. But for every trustworthy one, there are 10 who aren't. That's bad odds.  
The provider says it will eliminate time wasters. Time wasters are in every facet of life, fyi.  
Next time you call a mechanic for your car, and they say "yeah, just venmo a deposit and I'll make sure to save you a spot in the shop today" You'll look for a new mechanic. Same principle.

RespectfulRobert 80 reads
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19 / 54

The puberty process is difficult for a tween.

RespectfulRobert 83 reads
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20 / 54

Only a fool would do that. Like you said, there are plenty of trustworthy providers who ask for them. It really isn't that hard of a process to weed out the scammers from those honest and legit girls.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 74 reads
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21 / 54

reviews, so we know you are the real deal.  But let's face it, these junior-high insults only go to show your lack of creativity.   You should take your time and think of something really clever to say, lest you make yourself look a little dim.
To have an alias with no reviews white-knighting for you is laughable.  

durran421 71 reads
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22 / 54

But hey, I really can't blame providers for doing the deposits. I mean if there are guys stupid enough to pay a deposit,  more power to em. I wish I could get paid in advance for doing absolutely nothing but promising to provide a service..... later. Sometimes the dumbest customers pay the most money. That's not exclusive to this industry, that's just a business fact.

RespectfulRobert 81 reads
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23 / 54

You don’t pay “more” money bc you send a deposit. The balance due is lowered by the amount you put upfront. Maybe you should refrain from commenting on the math of it all as it really isn’t your strong suit. Just sayin’.
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Now, what were you saying about “stupid” guys and the “dumbest” customers again?

durran421 73 reads
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25 / 54

At what point in this conversation did I ONE time say it cost a penny more to pay a deposit. Where..... I'll wait. Crickets.....crickets.........crickets......
Actually, what I said was, you stand a good chance of gambling and losing your deposit. And for what? Absolutely no reason that's what. It's unnecessary.

So, let me try again for the one who didn't get it.  
If you want to gamble and pay a deposit, be my guest. But why. Why do you need to do that. The question asked was: what is the advantage. The answer, MY answer was: none whatsoever.
The problem with my "strong suit" is I struck a nerve with you when I said "if guys are stupid enough to pay a deposit,  more power to em (the providers)  
So the way I see it, business in general is not your "strong suit" just sayin'

I wouldn't go to Vegas if I were you.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 75 reads
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26 / 54

How do you know they didn't raise the price for the amount of the session the same amount as the deposit in the first place, figuring guys will pay $600 at the door, so they take a deposit so they can charge you $800 and break it into two payments for the marginal mongers.  The deposit is long gone and you are still paying $600 at the door.

FlaNoName 70 reads
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27 / 54

How do you know they are not???   I prefer not to pay deposits and have only done so one time.  The one time with a Provider with a great reputation, awesome reviews and hot as hell.  She pushed all my buttons, so I went for it after doing MY due diligence.  The deposit + the payment at the door = the amount advertised.    

Perhaps what you say occurs but to make a blanket statement is patently absurd.  Once again you are speaking without knowledge of the subject to which you address.  Let me know when you get to 800 reviews then you might have the necessary experience to adequately comment on subjects relating to the thread you post on.

Oh, wait a minute, you've been stuck at 400 for a very long time.  I guess that is because since you can no longer get it up you are unable to see at least two women a week that you boast about.  

RespectfulRobert 70 reads
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28 / 54

Amazing he thought that the deposit was in ADDITION to the stated fee! I don't think he needs to wait on Mensa contacting him anytime soon. lol.

durran421 89 reads
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29 / 54

Looks like 2 likes to me boss. What you think about that?

durran421 81 reads
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30 / 54

Again, can you point put where I said "in addition to?"
I must have missed it.  Now, make sure you definitely point that part out so everyone here can see. We're all still waiting on the last time I asked that. The crickets are getting louder Bobby....

RespectfulRobert 77 reads
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31 / 54

You wouldn't think you would have to spell it out for the Bobbsey Twins since they are both experts on how deposits work but have NEVER paid one. Oh, ok, guys. Lmao!

durran421 99 reads
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32 / 54

You mean dumb enough to pay one? Or have to pay one.  
I've never had to pay one. I've never missed an opportunity to see a provider I wanted to see either.  

Do you see the difference here, or do I need to "spell it out"  
You can pay all the deposits you want to to pay if thats you. You do you. Eventually you...... Will. Get. Burned.  
I just know that I won't. There's a saying that will probably be true forever.
Women are crazy! But men are stupid. You're not helping our case here brother!  

Btw, this topic comes up all the time on this board. The general consensus with nearly all guys/clients is..... do NOT pay a deposit. But, There's always that one or two........

Women are crazy. But men are stupid......

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 89 reads
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33 / 54

For the buyer . Of course, there is a lot of advantage for the seller.  

And sellers will always try hard to make it seem like there is advantage for the buyer, when there isn't any at all.

It's the car salesman/manipulative ad tactic - trying to sell shit the buyer doesn't need and make it seem like he does need it.  

 
Here's a good analogy. And I've used it before. If you know there's a nontrivial chance that if you walk in a certain neighborhood you will be r0bbed, and if there is no advantage in walking through that neighborhood, why would you ever walk through it? It doesn't matter that you can walk unscathed through it most of the time or even 90% of the time. Taking on unnecessary risk is not favorable to the buyer or the hood walker here. That's why I'll never get providers saying "I require a deposit and I'm safe don't say never give deposits". Yeah you might be safe, but many others aren't.

RespectfulRobert 82 reads
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34 / 54

No woman has ever tried to sell me it was an advantage for me to pay a deposit. NOT...ONE...EVER. How are you SO wrong on SO many topics? You and CDL are so much alike it's incredible.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 82 reads
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35 / 54

but this thread is about paying a deposit for a normal session.  I have only paid a deposit for an extended engagement of 24 hours or more.  I think that is fair because if she books me, she is blocking off a large amount of time, and if I flake on short notice, she is not losing just an hour of income, because it's not likely she can fill ALL of the time with other customers.  Obviously, I have only done with a woman I have seen multiple times and completely trust not to pull a fast one with my deposit.  However, it IS true that I have never paid a deposit for my normal one- or two-hour session.  

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 80 reads
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36 / 54

Sure, I shouldn't have put "always" there, my fault. But to claim something isn't true because it hasn't happened to you, is a weak claim.  

 
And please don't compare me to cdl. I actually like my fellow mongers no matter who they are and stand up for them. Mkay?

420Smoka4Eva 80 reads
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37 / 54

I think we both agree there is an advantage for the provider. Deposits minimize the financial risk of a cancellation and reduce the occurrence of cancellations. There is a clear advantage for them.  

 
Let's use your thinking from the provider's perspective. Lets say 90% of their clients never cancel last second, why should they bother risking that 10%? Why should they walk through a bad neighborhood even if nothing happens? They're employing the same thinking that you are. You can't fault them for having exactly the same outlook that you have.

RespectfulRobert 76 reads
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38 / 54

You said it "always" happens but you backed down off that and I commend you for doing so. All good.

durran421 74 reads
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39 / 54

Seems like you skipped over that question twice?

RoniJames 104 reads
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40 / 54

As a provider, I can say that I require a booking fee because I have to lock MY time to meet YOU.  

If you no show, flake, or cancel, then my schedule was locked (and potential other clients turned down) to meet you with no return. My booking fee ensures that I am compensated for my time regardless.  

As for the profiles on payments sites, I just keep mine as my name and nothing else. And only ever accept Cashapp, Bitcoin, or youpay.

 

In regards to photos of ID, I WILL NOT meet with ANYONE that refuses to send 2 photos (1 of ID and 1 holding ID). There are too many dangerous people in this industry AND in the world. I must verify who I am meeting so I do not end up arrested by an undercover or hurt in some other way.
Anyone that refuses to verify is an instant NO and goes in my blacklist as someone I will not meet.

Safety is ALWAYS first.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 68 reads
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41 / 54

If you've noticed I never told providers they shouldn't institute deposits. Or indirectly said they shouldn't, for that matter.  

 
What I did do is tell other CONSUMERS to not use providers who require a deposit to have the most risk-fee experience. And yes, this subset inadvertently includes providers who are good and aren't flaky or scammy.

(its like if you want to avoid risk I'd tell you to not get involved with crypto investing at all, and even tho there are legit crypto projects out there, the amount of scams you're bound to encounter is so much higher risk-wise it doesnt make sense).  

 
Do you see the difference here? The problem is that many providers seem to take offense with me or other mongers telling other customers that they shouldn't do biz with those who require deposits. Why is that?

 
I, on other hand, don't take offense to providers telling other providers to not do biz with customers who don't wanna pay deposits.

 
This is yet another example of double standards which this biz is chockful of.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 64 reads
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42 / 54

a week unless I'm sick and not in shape to see anyone at all.  I generally see three women a week, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays.  If you know how to do a search of this board, you can find where I have been consistent in this over many posts over many years.  

 
BTW, I have already passed 800 reviews.  It has been verified by other members here that I was the top reviewer on AF with over 400 reviews before they closed in 2015 and I started reviewing here.  The search button is your friend.  Let me know when you get to 5 reviews.  I'll help you make a big deal about it.  Lol

 
I just noticed that you ONLY respond to me, so now I have two alias stalkers with no reviews.  I suppose I should feel special, but I don't.  People who have obsessions here don't get a lot of play from others.  Most people don't like stalkers, but I don't mind, it just solidifies that I can still wield power over weak minds with the written word.  Welcome to the CDL Stalker Corp, private.  

FlaNoName 68 reads
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Blah Blah Blah   You've told this tired old story before.  And you're right the search button is my friend.  I only see 400 reviews.  I don't see any of your friends vouching for your 800 reviews so that must be all made up.  Did you know that the search button can be your friend too?  If you did, you would have seen I have posted on the Reviewer Only Board.  How can I do that with less than 5 reviews?

Furthermore, i did do research and you previously stated that you see "at least two women a week," which is what I repeated.  I never said you only saw two women.  But of course, since you haven't had any published reviews in over 1 1/2 years, we can only take your word for it which doesn't go very far since you are a proven liar.   They have ED pharmaceuticals you can use for that problem.  Then maybe you can get back to writing reviews which you think is so important for everyone else.  

Oh, and congratulations!  I know how proud you are that you didn't "go after" the QB for her post: http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/i-love-getting--my-culo-worshipped--1025339?page=1

Rafl 79 reads
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44 / 54

So many dangerous people ? Lol what. I hope your business model works out for you.

Posted By: RoniJames
Re: Perspective as a provider
As a provider, I can say that I require a booking fee because I have to lock MY time to meet YOU.  
   
 If you no show, flake, or cancel, then my schedule was locked (and potential other clients turned down) to meet you with no return. My booking fee ensures that I am compensated for my time regardless.  
   
 As for the profiles on payments sites, I just keep mine as my name and nothing else. And only ever accept Cashapp, Bitcoin, or youpay.  
   
   
   
 In regards to photos of ID, I WILL NOT meet with ANYONE that refuses to send 2 photos (1 of ID and 1 holding ID). There are too many dangerous people in this industry AND in the world. I must verify who I am meeting so I do not end up arrested by an undercover or hurt in some other way.  
 Anyone that refuses to verify is an instant NO and goes in my blacklist as someone I will not meet.  
   
 Safety is ALWAYS first.

wrps07 85 reads
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45 / 54

Are you planning to require that in the future ?

Posted By: RoniJames
Re: Perspective as a provider
As a provider, I can say that I require a booking fee because I have to lock MY time to meet YOU.  
   
 If you no show, flake, or cancel, then my schedule was locked (and potential other clients turned down) to meet you with no return. My booking fee ensures that I am compensated for my time regardless.  
   
 As for the profiles on payments sites, I just keep mine as my name and nothing else. And only ever accept Cashapp, Bitcoin, or youpay.  
   
   
   
 In regards to photos of ID, I WILL NOT meet with ANYONE that refuses to send 2 photos (1 of ID and 1 holding ID). There are too many dangerous people in this industry AND in the world. I must verify who I am meeting so I do not end up arrested by an undercover or hurt in some other way.  
 Anyone that refuses to verify is an instant NO and goes in my blacklist as someone I will not meet.  
   
 Safety is ALWAYS first.

Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 75 reads
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46 / 54

First of all not all providers ask for deposit and not all providers charge high. I don't.

dahlithecandy See my TER Reviews 79 reads
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47 / 54

Just in my personal experience I was afraid of reviews at first because I had started out on a different site, and had literally no idea what a "good companion" was supposed to be, I was naive when I first started my journey so I was basically copying from what I saw in other ads. Due to the nature of the business I tried to keep everything so discrete, so I never even thought of posting myself on social media to advertise. And I was told by a few men that wearing make up or dressing sexy was not encouraged because I shouldn't look too good--which was crazy bad advice lol.  
 I don't ask for a deposit generally speaking because I see how it has degraded the trust between providers and companions. I'll even own up to my two reviews that say I was lousy-because it taught me something-though I hope people read the good ones too.  
 I have learned a lot in the last couple months that I hope aide in my success of being a great companion/provider.

Rafl 60 reads
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48 / 54

I love it when a woman gets done up and dresses sexy. It’s fun in Vegas. I love the looks of disgust I get when my old ass is out with a young 10. lol 😂 fuck em.

Posted By: dahlithecandy
Re: My experience  
Just in my personal experience I was afraid of reviews at first because I had started out on a different site, and had literally no idea what a "good companion" was supposed to be, I was naive when I first started my journey so I was basically copying from what I saw in other ads. Due to the nature of the business I tried to keep everything so discrete, so I never even thought of posting myself on social media to advertise. And I was told by a few men that wearing make up or dressing sexy was not encouraged because I shouldn't look too good--which was crazy bad advice lol.  
  I don't ask for a deposit generally speaking because I see how it has degraded the trust between providers and companions. I'll even own up to my two reviews that say I was lousy-because it taught me something-though I hope people read the good ones too.  
  I have learned a lot in the last couple months that I hope aide in my success of being a great companion/provider.

inicky46 61 Reviews 71 reads
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49 / 54

A few years ago I had a date with an ATF; a slim, tight-bodied Korean-American girl (so not a K-Girl). She had a tongue stud and knew how to use it. After our session we went to one of NY's better steakhouses for dinner with another couple, also a monger and a hooker friend. My gal was wearing a skin tight faux-leopard mini dress with platform wedgies and looked wide-eyed innocent but sexy as hell. We drew lots of glances from our fellow diners as we walked to the table. I was hoping some old biddy would say to me: "Shame on you! She's young enough to be your daughter!" My reply was going to be: "No madam, she is FAR too young to be my daughter."
Oh, well.

sympathyforthedevil 55 Reviews 56 reads
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50 / 54

Went the SB route years ago. Prices are up and service is way down.

Mister_Pelican 49 Reviews 63 reads
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That's easy to say because you've been doing it so long that you can learn about and be verified by word of mouth.  Those avenues simply aren't open to people new to the hobby who've yet to get a foot in the door.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 72 reads
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There ARE providers who are not stringent on screening.  The second half of the month when rent is coming up is a good time to look for those who are more desperate and may be willing to relax their screening requirements a little.  If you want to START with top-tier ladies, I agree it's going to take a while to be able to get who you want.  

 
Check your regional buzz board and/or do a VIP advanced search for what you are looking for and use PM to contact them.  They will know you are a TER member and just tell them you are just getting started in this hobby.  

dahlithecandy See my TER Reviews 64 reads
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that's kind of hot and kinky!  thank you for sharing your experience with us. I love that story!

James_Stance 66 Reviews 50 reads
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54 / 54

Once again, you hit the nail on the head.

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