Oh..you refer them to your website and reviews. That's what I thought.
See you in Milwaukee.
I don't me a first or second time client necessarily. What if you have a client who has seen you several times and then one day asks if you can be a "reference" for him - or another provider contacts you to verify a client who has been one of your "regulars. As a courtesy, I'm sure you would recommend him to the other lady - but maybe deep down you may have some reservations? Like, maybe he'll stop seeing you? You may lose him entirely, or at least some of his $$$ will go to the other provider.
This is the only industry/profession I can think of where "competitors" send their customers to their "competition". I guess it all balances out - you lose some and then you gain some. it's just an interesting concept for me from a business standpoint. I mean a plumber doesn't usually refer their customer to another plumber, eg.
Its funny cause in order to see some ladies you basically have to undergo a background check and give them all kind of info, links, occupation, etc etc., and yet when you ask a lady to return the favor and she don't..
That is just plain unprofessional and rude, not to mention it might actually hurt your business more then it helps by trying to "keep" a client
Most of the time I lean towards not caring (i.e. if I have a client who pays me $$$ and chooses to see a provider who charges $$$$).
But if a client sees me at $$$ and spends his days and nights obsessively contacting me, bemoaning his ability to see me financially, is demanding of me in more ways than one....and then turns around and write a review of a provider at $$$$ then yes, that pisses me off. I hate to be manipulated.
In terms of pure emotional "jealousy", no, I never care if a client I see sees other women.
You are right, it always balances out - 100% of the time. I give out tons of referrals. I meet a man visiting in town on business and never hesitate to give him suggestions about who else to see if he has specific preferences. Why? Because they nearly always come back to me and the generosity is paid back to me in terms of girls doing the same for me. Any girl who looks at others in this business as her "competition" or gets jealous is unhinged.
I agree 100%. They like variety and when they come back, they just appreciate me more. The whole trying to barter with me because they just got done spending money on someone else that they didn't like, and now has no money, is insulting.
I recently referred a number of my regulars (and some newbies on here, that live in that area) to three other gals to see when they travel to the East Coast (several differing states). I always suggest a certain gal in NY (for 4 years now) to see if they ever vacation there... and the guys always come back with a huge smile on their face lol. I think I need to tell them to bring me with!!!
But she's another hooker that favors stalking johns.
Come to think of it...that's really creepy!
are you referring to me CPA? I checked on one person (and one only) because he was dumb enough to tell me that's why he wanted a discount. Keep it up and you won't be invited to my hot tub party with BPM, Hound, and Nats :P Ah, who I am kidding, you'd make it a great time!!! Don't get mad that my Brewers are going to whip the crap out of your Cubbies this year! (Ok that is a pipe dream)
WOTW (and myself) are agreeing with who the hell cares if he sees others just as long as he doesn't whine that he needs a discount because he gave these other girls his money and now wants to see us.... not the fact that he paid more or less to see another.
I don't have time in my day to "stalk" and have yet to find anyone that would be worth it :P
Come to think of it...that's really creepy!
I'm a White Sox fan. Cubs fans are like the johns here who will give an old fat and ugly hooker a 9/9.
Also..can we get some more girls for that hot tub. Sounds like a sausage fest otherwise.
And I know that Milwaukee has great brats...but Hound Dog may think that's its something else.
Maybe London can come? How about Angela LOL
WOTW (and myself) are agreeing with who the hell cares if he sees others just as long as he doesn't whine that he needs a discount because he gave these other girls his money and now wants to see us.... not the fact that he paid more or less to see another.
I don't have time in my day to "stalk" and have yet to find anyone that would be worth it :P
Come to think of it...that's really creepy!
LR, dddbabe, and Angelexotic... how about that? Make sure you eat plenty of pineapples and bring some tootsie rolls in case anyone wants to Greek (heh heh)
Where are these guys who give them 9/9?... I wouldn't mind a few 10/10 reviews. Aim them in my direction.
Also..can we get some more girls for that hot tub. Sounds like a sausage fest otherwise.
And I know that Milwaukee has great brats...but Hound Dog may think that's its something else.
Maybe London can come? How about Angela LOL
WOTW (and myself) are agreeing with who the hell cares if he sees others just as long as he doesn't whine that he needs a discount because he gave these other girls his money and now wants to see us.... not the fact that he paid more or less to see another.
I don't have time in my day to "stalk" and have yet to find anyone that would be worth it :P
Come to think of it...that's really creepy!
But there's some pals of Lina that should also come. Shit, Hound wants to meet a Domme or two.
No Saturn? It wouldn't be a party without her.
And the OP wrote a 10/10 for a gal that is not all that and then some. That's why he wrote his post.
You don't want guys to write fake 10/10's. Too many hookers get them..and the back channel on those reviews is laughable.
I encourage my regulars to see other ladies. I believe that it is a good thing if he sees others because that is less chance he will become obsessed with only me and become a problem. Variety is good. I have had clients in the past become a problem since he is seeing no other providers and becomes too emotional and stalking my reviews and contacting the reviewers. I have even been asked to stop providing because he is only seeing me and he can take care of me if I only see him.
The guys are as guilty as the gals on this stalking nonsense.
Trust me...I've listened to some really bizarre shit that you gals have to deal with.
But it also works in reverse. Some hookers will attack a John for seeing others...as it takes bucks out of her pocket.
I thought this was supposed to be NSA and just good old fun!
Also..can we get some more girls for that hot tub. Sounds like a sausage fest otherwise.
And I know that Milwaukee has great brats...but Hound Dog may think that's its something else.
Maybe London can come? How about Angela LOL
WOTW (and myself) are agreeing with who the hell cares if he sees others just as long as he doesn't whine that he needs a discount because he gave these other girls his money and now wants to see us.... not the fact that he paid more or less to see another.
I don't have time in my day to "stalk" and have yet to find anyone that would be worth it :P
Come to think of it...that's really creepy!
You got the wrong man honey! In fact, lemme know when that goes down for I have been wanting to visit Siberia for the longest time...
I'm sure that I can get Saturn to come play too.
Can oldted be the bartender?
It'll be like The Love Boat.
If there isn't any male cum guzzlers there, or any dudes that stare at schweddy balls for kicks..I MIGHT show up IF...Edrienne Cole, Carly Dahl, Swings, Angela and LR came out to play and CPA and Saturdsky get their OWN hot tub in a separate room, then fk the shit out of each other. Someone will have to pick up my air/hotel too to get me to Milfwaukee. Ewwwww....just the thought of me landing in that god forsaken backwards ass hillbilly town is enough to make me vomit.
Now I might be willing to pay CPA and SS to come (as long as I can video it and submit it to some porn sites and Jerry Springer)... I would get all of my money spent back and then some for something like that.
My city isn't hillbilly, just the rest of the state! Milfwaukee huh? lol. That is pretty accurate!!! ha ha. I get the feeling BPM, that you aren't fond of cows.
But I'm guessing that Carmine wants to sit next to you in the hot tub.
Saturn still hasn't answered the bat signal. Think she's OK?
hicago O'hare baby and I'll offer up an airport pick up just for you and escape us to the
jacuzzi getaway where we will all surround you in the hot steamy environment.
You can go back to sleep now...none of this concerns you.
jacuzzi getaway where we will all surround you in the hot steamy environment.
You only know what she was ASKING. Maybe she took less than what you charge. It happens. Trust me.
Seems creepy to me.
Just another reason NOT to give up any info to some of these hookers. Sure hope the OP is paying attention to these comments. Seems all these hookers posting all follow their johns around. YIKES!!
And a hooker discounting...unheard of LOL
nuff said!
Anger...you wouldn't want to see me when I'm angry. LOL
Hi CPA,
You were called Gomer ' Shazam" Pyle , by Saturnsky & now you referenced yourself as David Banner!! I need a scorecard to keep up! ;oP
You were called Gomer ' Shazam" Pyle , by Saturnsky & now you referenced yourself as David Banner!! I need a scorecard to keep up! ;oP
Looks like Boston had enough of you?
What a shock LOL
When you're a client who posts dozens or hundreds of reviews and posts on boards all day or brags about who he's seeing in threads...well that doesn't require spying.
I have a handful of "top-tier" raters...clients who everyone knows and who love to be known who have played extreme games with me over the years in terms of my rates including the "well I'm a super good regular and I can't afford to pay your rate but I being with you" game only to then turn around and brag about seeing 'so-and-so' double and triple my rate.
Please get a grip. Clicking on a link to a body of reviews when prompted by discussion board postings is NOT spying.
So you've made a niche of johns who you seem to attract. And obviously not in a good way.
Maybe you should look at yourself as it seems to be the common denominator in your bad luck.
Yep...still called spying.
I have a handful of "top-tier" raters...clients who everyone knows and who love to be known who have played extreme games with me over the years in terms of my rates including the "well I'm a super good regular and I can't afford to pay your rate but I being with you" game only to then turn around and brag about seeing 'so-and-so' double and triple my rate.
Please get a grip. Clicking on a link to a body of reviews when prompted by discussion board postings is NOT spying.
But uh, every provider has a handful of "those" clients - you know, the kinds who live on TER to be heard (ahem).
For the most part my clients are excellent, reasonably honest and not manipulative towards me in terms of my rates.
"Common denominator in you bad luck"?...lol do you listen to yourself?
Your contrarian posts are not nearly as clever as you think them to be.
And no, clicking on a PUBLIC link is still not spying.
Goodbye!
Amen. I still don't understand why you care. Let them do whatever they want. Cut them loose as clients if you wish. But get pissed at them? I don't get that even a little bit. You have become emotionally involved at that point with your client. Not a good place to be in this biz.
When you are a provider who has seen a client for a one or two or three years guess what?
You are emotionally involved on some level.
If you aren't? People are writing shitty reviews about your emotional detachment.
I am a provider, I have sex with men and keep their secrets and oh the secrets I am told. I am not Bank of America. There is no formula to how I "work".
If a client I have seen for sometime expresses that he enjoys our time together I try to make it good for him every time. If he says he makes it seem like he needs a little 'push' or incentive to keep seeing me regularly I try to make that happen in a way that leaves me satisfied and not resentful so that I can perform on point and he can still be happy. When that client gets on the internet and brags about being able to afford some other so-and-so at XXXX rate that means that he doesn't think very highly of me or my efforts to keep his attention at all and therein lies the problem. Its a matter of respect. If you can't see me all the time (or simply don't think I'm worth my current rates) then don't. Don't tell me your kids need braces, and the oldest one is going to college or whatever but that you care for me so much and need a little break....only to turn around and spend freely elsewhere.
That is manipulation.
Clients can't have it both ways. Either you want us to treat you like a john or you want us to treat you with respect just as we would a real lover. Decide which it will be and act accordingly with your "favorites".
You contradict yourself in successive posts...and babble how good you are.
This isn't match...get over yourself.
You and the other spies feel entitled...and you're not!
Sounds like those fellas have you pegged!
You are emotionally involved on some level.
If you aren't? People are writing shitty reviews about your emotional detachment.
I am a provider, I have sex with men and keep their secrets and oh the secrets I am told. I am not Bank of America. There is no formula to how I "work".
If a client I have seen for sometime expresses that he enjoys our time together I try to make it good for him every time. If he says he makes it seem like he needs a little 'push' or incentive to keep seeing me regularly I try to make that happen in a way that leaves me satisfied and not resentful so that I can perform on point and he can still be happy. When that client gets on the internet and brags about being able to afford some other so-and-so at XXXX rate that means that he doesn't think very highly of me or my efforts to keep his attention at all and therein lies the problem. Its a matter of respect. If you can't see me all the time (or simply don't think I'm worth my current rates) then don't. Don't tell me your kids need braces, and the oldest one is going to college or whatever but that you care for me so much and need a little break....only to turn around and spend freely elsewhere.
That is manipulation.
Clients can't have it both ways. Either you want us to treat you like a john or you want us to treat you with respect just as we would a real lover. Decide which it will be and act accordingly with your "favorites".
I don't ever stand for bad behavior by the guys. Ever. Clients will only have it both ways if ladies allow it. He has every right to see who he wants, pay who he wants whatever he chooses and he has the right to tell you a b.s. sob story. And you have every right to tell him thanks but no thanks. There's the door. It's a business decision, like you make in other areas of being an escort. Determining on whether a client is still worth it or not is a part of the business decision process. That's all I am saying.
Lets talk about the obsessive characters I'm referring to who play the "I love being with you so much but can't afford regular rates / can I have a discount despite the fact I have two hundred reviews" who contact EVERY client who writes a new review of me to talk about the sessions I had with them or ask them questions about my personal life.
Clicking on a body of reviews of a known reviewer isn't spying but if you want to really get into what some of these guys do...we can go there.
I keep an eye on the ones who keep an eye on me, okay?
Don't see people you've known for years.
Don't see people who will rake you over the coals via back channel when they have a tantrum over the fact they've been put in time out.
Please don't talk to me like I'm stupid because I'm not.
These situations are complicated and have to be dealt with gingerly.
I'm done with the topic. If you tell a provider you can't afford her you may be able to manipulate her into the rate you want and she may see that you have no problem affording others and feel slighted. The end.
Clearly paranoid.
Maybe dangerous too.
Time to get out of this gig honey. When the paranoid delusions take over...bad things tend to happen. And then hookers start babbling incoherently like you're doing now.
Seriously...take stock of the circles your in.
Don't see people who will rake you over the coals via back channel when they have a tantrum over the fact they've been put in time out.
Please don't talk to me like I'm stupid because I'm not.
These situations are complicated and have to be dealt with gingerly.
I'm done with the topic. If you tell a provider you can't afford her you may be able to manipulate her into the rate you want and she may see that you have no problem affording others and feel slighted. The end.
With nary a pleasant or positive thing to say.
Again, get a grip. And at some point, hopefully, a real life.
I guess you were bored and figured that you would schedule out the times of my posts?
I can tell you that you don't have a career in statistics.
I like 8 hours of beauty sleep. Try it and maybe those johns won't say what they are saying about you.
You are a pretty unhappy hooker. Thanks for showing the OP why he needs to just move along. And make sure he doesn't tell a hooker that he is on TER.
Are you going to be at the hot tub party? Every party needs a popper.
Again, get a grip. And at some point, hopefully, a real life.
I suppose it is just best to just terminate the relationship immediately when one feels disrespected...its just difficult to when you've seen some people regularly for a time.
When the relationship morphs into one that is unfair, sometimes its hard to see that shift or deal with it effectively.
Thanks for your opinion, I get it and I respect it.
If you do it at the beginning of feeling disrespected, you will save yourself the hassle of going thru the inevitable anger stage later. It also shows they guy you won't be a door mat to be kicked around so if he comes back, and you let him back in the inner circle so to speak, he will be much more cognizant that you will stand up to him and less likely he will pull that crap with u in the future. Good luck! Blue.
Aren't going to trash you?
Or are you still gathering info in them so you can trash them?
Did you really want to be a Bond girl?
When the relationship morphs into one that is unfair, sometimes its hard to see that shift or deal with it effectively.
Thanks for your opinion, I get it and I respect it.
Stalking is unnecessary when men are soooooo indiscreet and open to discussing who they've fucked on a public thread open to all including the ladies they've seen at haggled (cheeeaaaap) rates.
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I have never "haggled" but I do have a price point. I've never discussed a fee with a woman during a session either. But I have, on rare occasion, done a single visit to a couple of different woman who were above my normal price point. It is possible that these men feel comfortable financially seeing you at your fee on a regular basis, but could never afford the fee that a single visit lady charges more than occasionally. I'm just guessing.
That was terrible sentence structure, hope it makes sense. Basically, I'm saying a one time splurge is different. Who would you rather be, the girl he sees once for $50-$100 more for that hour, or the one he comes to regularly? Guess it depends on whether the guy is otherwise a douche.
---later
This is what the hobby is all about variety the spice of life.
I have gents that I see regularly for a year or two they reach out to me for a reference to see another provider.
I have no issue with providing a reference and I do not think "Oh,why is he not seeing me again?"
My clients do not belong to me so if they see another provider..or two...or three who cares?
If they want to see me again they know how to contact me.
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The last two lines were great.
I like how you leave the door open for your clients to come back 
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I have gents that I see regularly for a year or two they reach out to me for a reference to see another provider.
I have no issue with providing a reference and I do not think "Oh,why is he not seeing me again?"
My clients do not belong to me so if they see another provider..or two...or three who cares?
If they want to see me again they know how to contact me.
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-- Modified on 3/8/2013 4:08:38 PM
That is exactly how I feel.
But I do agree about the haggling thing. I've had that happen where I was badgered into giving discounts then get reference request for double or triple my rates? Oh hell no, that is why I do not do discounts for anyone anymore.
I would give the reference but that motherfucker got set straight on rates the next time he contacted me.
She's not all that hot...and probably hammered you for that review. None of her others are even close.
So don't use her as a reference. Big deal!!
Better yet, join a verification service and stop telling the hookers you see that you're on TER and your handle is LovetoDaty. That'll eliminate your problem.
And if you think that other legal professions don't refer clients...you live in a bubble. Happens all the time. Hey..let me know next time you see your doc for that sore throat...and (s)he finds that you have some bizarre disease. Think (s)he is going to not send you to a specialist. And every other profession (no...hooking is NOT a profession either) acts similarly to accommodate their clients.
In hooking...it's dog eat dog. They live for today...at least most do. Maybe you will one day find one that actually knows how to be a real business woman.
This is the only industry/profession I can think of where "competitors" send their customers to their "competition". I guess it all balances out - you lose some and then you gain some. it's just an interesting concept for me from a business standpoint. I mean a plumber doesn't usually refer their customer to another plumber, eg.
Oh..you refer them to your website and reviews. That's what I thought.
See you in Milwaukee.
You are old...Gomer Pyle was in the 1960's
So that puts you around 60. I figured based on your reviews and site that you were only 50.
Did you finish off the Boones Farm already?
I'll be the only male in tub 1 with Edrienne, Carly, LR, Swings and Angela. We'll chat. Have some Boones Farm together. Can't wait.
You see all this over exaggerating of your faux heterosexualness is funny. Just admit you love cock and then you can stop all this hyper hetero silliness.
Took long enough. Now can you get hotplants to post on this thread?
And it'll be a blast in that hot tub. You, me, hotplants and BPM.
And I'll even try the Boones Farm.
Are you Abbott or Costello, Mutt or Jeff, top or bottom? You can't seem to go anywhere without your walking man purse with you.
And I just had to google Gomer too and he looks like a homo. So CPA, I'm going to have to put you and Saturdsky in a whole different hotel if you look like that rump wrangler. You can bunk with Hound and Curly. SS, you might need that shit Michael Jackson was using to get a good night sleep.
To sedate patients in the ICU. That will be enough to keep me out. And you, keep it down when cpa has another go at your pooper...all that screaming will wake the dead.
pink champagne for me please .
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....cuz I just know she'll adore him and have fun together...ohh yeah!!
I'm happy to give references to other providers....no problem! It goes both ways!
Khori
It bothers me when other providers are territorial. I will always give a reference to any client, but a lot of providers will not do the same. The business we are in works because each man is entitled to choose who he wants to be with and when. Some days he may want a blond, other days a brunette, etc. We do not OWN our clients. Make them happy and they will come back for more. I enjoy the time I have with each one of them, but they can see who they want, when they want. No room for jealousy in this business!