I am seriously considering finally, hahaha, of going to bbbj.  My question is, would I be wrong for being YMMV with it since it will be overly new to me??  Would I be wrong if I openly offered it but then got a gentleman who wasn't so clean and I decided to do cbj?

I think I am ready to go to bbbj, but am pretty sure I would be YMMV and I don't want it to effect my reviews in the long run.

...isn't everything YMMV when a dude  shows up & is not squeekie clean? That's fine, & what ever you are comfortable with.

I'm a bbbj girl all the way (that I see), welcome to the club, and good luck.

YMMV and hygiene issue are two different things.  

If it will strictly be a hygiene dependant issue, then advertise it and make sure your FAQ section states that cleanliness is important.  Also, require the hobbyist shower before the appointment starts.

If it is a YMMV thing that may or may not be offered all the time or ongoing, then don't advertise, let the reviewers state that it was had.

This is a deal breaker for a lot of guys and it is review suicide to say you do and then renege.

I agree that you should not advertise it unless you plan an making this a regular menu option. But looking at your reviews if you add BBBJ to the mix you may also end up with some 10's

Isn't YMMV standard? If you want to go in this direction, invite your guest to wash his ass and penis. If he refuses or makes the claim, he just did it, suggest that he do it again. If he refuses, cover it and skip the aforementioned style of fellatio. If he's not dense, he'll get it from the inflection of your voice.  You've already done it raw so it's not a big deal, right?

You could put a statement on your website saying you offer both and that empeccable hygenie is required. Not in those exact words, but in a way that suits your style. You can also reiterate this in all of your confirmation emails.

If you're happy with what you see once the guy gets naked then go for it and he'll feel special. If someone you're not willing to take bare asks about a review which says you do, you can just say that the reviewer was mistaken but didn't notice because you were so good.  Being able to apply the cover with your mouth helps with that explanation.

If I have to tell you to wash your ass you are not going to get near me.

I'd put up on your website...."YMMV, you bet your ass! No stank-assed, filthy, cheesey-sacked, muthafukka's allowed".

Fuck that. I was in some NYC joint once and this hot chick sat in my lap, asked for a cigarette....I gave her one, then the stank invaded my nasal orifices. I handed her a second cigarette and told her, "You know where to put that right?" then I pushed her off.

eeeeeewwwwwwwwwww!

I have to agree that this service should be a go with the flow type of thing....If the gent fits the bill then go with it....if it shows up in a few reviews it doesn't take long to figure out that ya gotta be well manscaped and super clean to get the royal treatment....I've had that happen with a few who then agreed to CIM....BONUS!!! Talk about feeling special....needless to say... I did not write reviews of that...I just got lucky.  But you better believe I'm squeeky clean on every appointment....

I see alot of responses suggesting how you should mention hygiene, BBBJ, and YMMV on your website. Well, if you want to make LE's job easier, that would be the way to go.

The greatest benefits of having reviews is that we ladies do not need to spell out in great detail what is or is not part of our menu. The reviews do it for us. I love that. So no, I wouldn't recommend including a statement on your own website that BBBJ is offered, with or without a qualifying request for gentlemen to be clean.

Furthermore, them that know that YMMV is in effect are usually them who are bright enough to show up squeaky clean, or ask to shower first. The ones who are too dim to figure this concept out are more often than not the ones who don't bother checking reviews or visiting a girl's website. Then AFTER they are disappointed, they write the review and can't for the life of themselves figure out why the service they got was so different from all the other reviews. Anytime this topic comes up, I'm reminded of a set of reviews I read by a guy. He had about a dozen or so reviews. Literally every single one of them mentioned that he had chosen the particular girl because her reviews said she offered BBBJ, and then went on to complain that he got a CBJ. Every single review. I couldn't help but wonder if the guy was ever going to figure out that the one and only common denominator in every review was HIM.

But I digress. If you decide to switch to BBBJ I suggest two things. First, don't do it unless you are comfortable with doing it. Second, don't sweat the decision to ocassionally switch to CBJ just because the guy wasn't clean enough. Because of the illicit nature of this business, there are some things that simply need to be understood without having to spell them out in block letters. Expecting a gentleman to be clean is right at the top of that list. Or rathter, it should be.

Tash,

I love you too life, and I think we all know that...but I would not put a tally whacker in my mouth that I had not personally cleaned.

On the other hand if you YMMV a bbbj, and then turn a guy down bc his dick stinks or he is a nasty pig, you are setting yourself up for a very bad review. And to make matters worse you will get a bad review from a stanking ass man who could not figure out how to wash his own dick then got upset when it was pointed out to him via a provider...imagine that? We actually care about filth! (smile)

So either include a complete shower/bubble bath as a part of your sessions or stick to cbj....

And no don't put it on your site, men who do their research will see this thread, read the subsequent reviews and make their own informed decisions.


....kisses

with the dude. Clean him up yourself. Hell yes. I'll take SIX of those to go please. Make sure you clean every nook(Y)and cranny. Double up on the BIG GUY if ya' want.

It is something I had intended on including in my menu, that is half the reason for my post here.  My fear is that I'm going to have a gentleman refuse to shower, state he already has, and then insist on a bbbj.  In which case I am likely to throw up on his cock because even with cbj, if you don't wash between the asshole and balls, it's stomach turning at best.

I wouldn't include such things on my site because it's incriminating.  But thank you.

decide to.  So basically it would defeat the purpose.

an unselfish act like this. What a giver!!!

Tasha,  

You are thinking of coming over to the darkside.
You'll like the darkside, we have candy. hehe

Seriously,

Do whatever you want with whoever you want. You have to be comfortable doing it and that is the most important part!  

Ken

I at least had the decency to volunteer via PM.  Then again, I included some gory details of my vision of how it might conclude, lol.

Let's review the facts...I've known you for about 5 years.  In that time, we've established that YOU, sir, are a pig.  We've also established that pigs travel in groups.

Fuck, it appears that I'm guilty as charged.  Apparently, I need to do something disgusting.

That would be like saying that MP67 "might" be a drunk, or that I "might" be an asshole. lmao

came to me because he wanted cim. His cock had a dry patch on it that could have been a scab. I always let my fingers do the walking first which I think is what most ladies do. He wasn't all that upset since he knew something maybe not a problem sure did look like it could be.

Every lady does what is comfortable to them but I wouldn't advertise BBBJ if your not open to it. To many men read our profiles and count on what they read. You can have one bad review from a man who thinks he has been lied to but more than that will make you look bad.

Remember it's the little head who runs the show and the big head who gets upset when he's not happy.

Kisses Haley

Tasha,

I wouldn't advertise it or offer it beforehand. You should simply allow it to happen as appropriate. If he presents himself accordingly, BBBJ. If not, hello CBJ.  

You have enough of a review history that any negatives regarding this single item would say more about the hobbyist than you.

I hope to meet you one day with the appropriate mileage.

Many good points.

 - It shouldn't on the web site explicitly due to LE issues
 - I agree that there is a cleanliness issue, and then there is a another sort of YMMV (i.e. the guy has an uber ugly cock). I would make sure you can get past all non-hygiene issues before "advertising" anything.
 - I would suggest advertising, if anything, GFE with a great big YMMV caveat - based on hygiene
 - I agree with planning on CBJ and if the moment warrants go for BBBJ. You could work out a whole line - "I usually only do covered, but this looks so tasty would you mind if..." Some guys do want the covered thing, after-all.
- At some point, you have to take the plunge, so to speak (easy Allure!). You can't have your cake and eat it too - hmmm, so to speak as well. If you're not willing to spell out the caveats clearly up front, then you will always run the risk of some drip (literal or figurative) whining in his review about how you used a cover.

All that said, not much would get me to Vegas, but this could Good luck with your decision. All us "drips" will be rootin' for ya!

Sorry, I couldn't resist

Oh, dear, dear Allure`. We need to talk... LMAO!!!

I'm a drunken, swinish asshole. Card-carrying, dues-paying, proud-to-wave-the-flag, true-blue, dyed-in-the-wool.

Tasha...  Since you have a great reputation even when providing cbjs, I'm sure that your clients will be pleasantly surprised when you do offer them a bbbj during their sessions.  I'm sure the news will spread very quickly by word of mouth that you've decided to do bbbjs (especially if your clients start mentioning that fact in their reviews).

However, I don't think you should advertise bbbj on your website or in ads.  Since some guys will only see providers who do bbbjs, you may get someone who will downgrade you in their review should you decide to do a cbj with them for the reasons that you've stated in your post.

-TheKarateKid-

I have been doing this for almost 7yrs and if I wasn't ready to "take the plunge" I wouldn't have made this post.  On another note, it's a damn shame us ladies have to tell guys to wash their ass, dick and balls, or do it for them but whatever, I don't mind doing it.

I just know if I get a guy who smells like 9month old cottage cheese and has scabs on his cock, he won't get the same service as say a man who smells like Axe body wash and is circumsized.

If I were going to continue to say I was cbj, then why would I even do bbbj at all??  Kind of defeats the whole thing doesn't it??  

I'm not saying one in ten guys is going to get bbbj, I am saying what if one in ten guys smells like he ran through a cow field and dragged his dick across every cow patty.  Would I be wrong to refuse bbbj in that instance?  Or is this a 'customer is always right' situation and I should suck it up, throw up on his pee pee and do it anyways??

Everything on a provider's menu is YMMV based on conditions.

If I show up to an appointment with an Uzi and start shooting, are you still supposed to render DFK? LOL

Obviously, that's an extreme example. But we are talking about sex with strangers here. Something that, IMO, cannot be easy 2 times out of 3 to start with.

There could be a million worthwhile reasons for skipping ANYTHING on the menu depending on the given case.

Anal isn't available to a guy with a 24" schlong. DFK isn't available to a guy with black teeth. BBBJ isn't available to a guy whose hygiene is poor. Etc etc etc.

I think any reasonable person understands that, in certain circumstances, some stuff just won't be on the menu.

Axe body wash and get ahold of mrfisher's moil. Got it!

But seriously Tash, you're absolutely right. You and I don't disagree very much anyway...

In ANY case, if and when you want to 'take the plunge' you should be greeted with a clean gent, meaning one that doesn't turn you off to doing BBBJ on him. Any lady for that matter.

If you, or another lady, feel he isn't as fresh as you think he should be, then he should do something about it. Or accept CBJ.  

I hear quite often on these boards how the guys respect and appreciate the lady and take a shower before anything occurs if they are not already fresh for them.

I think it would be nasty, in more ways than one, if say you and I met and I expected a BBBJ. I wasn't as nice as you would like, and you asked me to take a shower, or better yet, like Allure` says, did it herself. It wouldn't hurt my feelings. I'd actually enjoy it because one, I get you to wash my stuff! Two, I get to shower with you! And three, it's making you comfortable to do whatever the hell you're gonna do to me!

I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, is this is supposed to be an enjoyable experience with BOTH people involved. If one has an issue, the other should try to rectify it. At least to the best of their abilities. And I don't think a damn good body cleansing is too much to ask for.

Think about it. Would any guy enjoy going down on a lady if her pussy stank? You'd bitch, right?

So why should it be any different if the lady had a problem with your hygiene? Because you pay for it? That's wrong.

You pay for it one way or the other. Whether you are married, have a GF, or go to a provider.

Just me, man. I might be a dick, but the ladies can't say I don't respect them.

At least when we're nekkid!

Easy to understand, succinct. There is hope for you.

To the raw side ! I'm excited for us to share the same enjoyment I get !

I have providers who provide cbj only and others who provide bbbj.  It doesn't matter to me as long as I enjoy the provider and they are comfortable in what they do.

Tasha: post it on your website if you like, a lot of the ladies do so. It helps guys who don't have access to TER or choose not to look up reviews. I suppose that in a menu format it will fit ok. Most of the websites I have seen where it is offered indicate that good hygene is required.

If some nimrod shows up thinking he is going to get a BBBJ and he hasn't seen a shower in days, then you don't do it. If he asks why, tell him to clean up. He should get it. If not, do the CBJ or tell him to take a hike.

I have read a lot of reviews for ladies who advertise BBBJ and the review was for a CBJ, and I have never seen a negative comment about that. I think guys understand the YMMV concept.

Let us know when you make the decision!

Usually you say "everything covered" .. So how about you say "everything covered, YMMV - exceptions may be made...let's talk about it in person"
that way you're not totally changing your prefs all at once and you can still reserve the option to say yes or no as you wish at the time?

Either way it's win win for all.

Call when ready...LOL

JP
"Tradin Green for Pink since before you were born"  
maybe I need to work on that tagline?

Someone would definintely interpret that to mean that BBFS is an option if the price is right. I don't think Tasha wants THOSE guys calling her up!

...that's why the girls get in this pre-dick-ment in the first place...

OK  I'm busted for bad English...but theres gotta be a way to say it that makes sense.

Just becuz EVERYTHING is not ALWAYS covered does that mean NOTHING is EVER covered?? Gaah! YMMV,YMMV,YMMV! Help me Mathesar!

Yeah Tasha! DO IT!

You are always in control of that no matter what. If a person comes to you unclean or what you may deem unhealthy - you better be safe!!! There is no question about it.
With a cover if you deem him unhealthy or you can always get him in the shower if he's a lil unclean too...
Just always carry mouthwash with alcohol in it for your personal protective equipment. And use it as soon as possible.
You will do well - I know it!!!
See you in Mar love!!
Kissez all over
Sage

If the guy is too stupid to clean up, he doesn't deserve the same attention as one who takes proper care of himself. If he's generally clean, but not fresh as a daisy, then flirtatiously offer to bathe or shower with him as part of the experience.

go to CIM as well!

Tasha, that's how I run my biz...smelly gets covered and to hell with the reviews. However, that's me, but if I am not mistaken, many gents on here would not take too kindly to getting a refusal for hygiene or health reasons. Some say if you advertise it you do it...every time. I call BS on that though...my body, my health, my choice.