My normal SBs were busy so I picked a girl off P411 with above average reviews. The two red flags were she asked for race and her ad had a big “Trump 2024” sign
Minutes later I get a PM…” I don’t see Asians.” (I’m less than half and people think I’m Latino.)
I’ll look at the silver lining that she probably is not vaccinated either (in Texas)
Anyhoo…
I'm a minority also and I haven't experienced any racism but if I did I wouldn't let it bother me. There will ALWAYS be those that would pre-judge others based on what's the color of their skin, and are they fat or short. Now a days you have to add in people judging others based on their politics too! There appear to be less and less racists from what I have experienced but I know it still exists and will always exist - and that's fine with me. I just like to know who am I dealing with.
If I were to encounter this lady, I would just move on and honestly I would not get angry! I understand that she did me a FAVOR by letting me know "upfront" that's how she thinks before I invested any of my time or money on her. There are too many other choices to worry about those ladys that have a personal bias/preference/opinion that excludes me. I prefer the GFE type of date and if that's not going to happen then I would just say thanks for letting me know and move on.
If she was going to be my new work boss, interviewing me for a job, a realtor, or a police officer her choices would matter more and likely directly affect my lifestyle or livelihood. Other than that - F it.
So if it's just a chick that doesn't want to suck a dick of a different color - I think that's fine! C'est la vie!
So are you stating that whatever you claim to be, you're not offended by someone being negative towards you based on race ? This is the most eye shattering post I've ever read.
No. You completely miss the point. I don't like racism but what I would prefer is that anyone that IS racist to let me know right up front so that I don't waste any of my time or energy on that person. They have their views and their opinions and I'm not much on a crusade to change it. If the chick doesn't want to fuck me I'm not going to march over to her house insisting that she observe my rights as an Equal Opportunity American to fuck her.
She doesn't affect my life. There are racists out there. You can either move along when you encounter one and or you can sit at home stewing about how unfair life is and the fact that somebody doesn't like you.
I don't think this qualifies as racism. Was she Asian?
As all you know.. your's truly is of East Indian origin, and one of the best mongers / hobbyist this hobby could have had... We are talking Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes caliber skills here.. LOL..
Funny thing happened a few yrs ago.. I saw this chic Riley in 2014 (some of you DC guys might remember). She used to frequent DC/Tysons area along with her red headed friend (forgot her name) . I saw her when she was working for this agency and had good time. She even invited her red headed friend for a quick intro, and offered me beer.
Then she went independent in 2015 and I contacted her. Her response was curt and to the point telling that she doesn't see people of Indian or Middle Eastern origin... I responded back telling her I had already seen her as an agency girl and asking if some of my brothers invited her for dinner and she had a bad reaction after eating chicken curry? LOL..Still waiting for her to respond to that email..
I tend to find humor in these situations.. Hey at least I don't have to worry about getting pulled over for no reason whilst just driving down the street, or having someone's knee on my neck and killing me in cold blood while I beg them to stop...
At the risk of going into the weeds, Riley's reviews are trending down word. I met her once while she was independent.
Sex was good but her attitude was distant, cold. As an example; after taking a shower I return to the bedroom, Riley remains fully dressed. WTH? She delayed getting naked until she absolutely had to be.
In other words, juice not worth the squeeze.
Your service would have been bad. I have seen the same thing. A Caucasian provider told me
"I don't see your type".
No problem. Didn't get upset. A few years later I was able to see older Caucasian around the other providers age. The service was good, she had no problem seeing black guys.
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How is that a silver lining? Her vaccination status would have had no effect on you.
Lol now I have an opinion of you.
Yeah don’t bother arguing and let’s move on.
I have not experienced "racism", but I have been part of an excluded class of customers on several occasions for another reason that I can do nothing about. Many providers don't see men over or under a certain age (usually its 60 and 30-35), so its just another form of discrimination.
With that said, on the question of exclusion for any reason, I come down on the side of "its her body, so its her rules." If I'm in an excluded class of customers with certain providers, I don't get bent out of shape. Why would I INSIST on having a session with a woman who doesn't want to see ME? I'd rather spend my money on a provider that is looking forward to meeting me, and has not prejudged me as old and therefore infirm (at 62). Some providers exclude certain ethnicities, certain ages, men of certain cultures and nationalities, men with large dicks, chicks with dicks, Lesbians, handicapped customers, and so on. Its really none of my business what her reason is. I think she has a right to set her own boundaries without being judged or called names.
I am personally OK w/ all forms of discrimination that happens within the confines of the hobby. I cut a lot of slack for business like this because of the personal nature of the business. I mean we are talking about taking another person's organs in one's mouth here.. Can't get anymore personal than that.. LOL.. This is not the same as serving someone alcohol or food, or lending someone money to buy a property..
In some cases it's more than an organ that is in a providers mouth.
There is a major difference between a provider refusing to see someone because of the color of their skin or ethnicity and a provider rejecting some old fat guy because she is scared shitless that he may have a heart attack or stroke or be somewhat impotent during the session. If you can't see the difference, you are a big fucking idiot than even I could have imagined.
That being said, I have never encountered "age discrimination and I am slightly older than you. Now, it might be my good looks or wealth or charisma or Warren Beatty bedroom skills. My sense is that you don't have an age problem but a loser problem.
Your sense that he has a "loser problem" is exactly right. He has to compensate for being a loser by constantly posting bullshit about how many time he fucks in a week and how rich he is. It's all bullshit.
Bur CDL's biggest problem is being an inveterate, habitual, pathological liar. He has even admitted it but he calls it "poetic license." Whatever he calls it...it's LYING,
I haven’t posted in awhile on this Board so I wanted to pick something inflammatory. Of course it happened exactly the way I described, except for the presumed indignation part.
In reality I spent two seconds thinking about the rejection, having fired off five proposals at the same time. By the time I got her response, I was post coital. Frankly, I absolutely believe the provider has the right to respond this way because it’s her body. Then again, I also don’t tell morons to get Covid vaccinated or not to take dog heartworm medicine as treatment. However, the funny part here is that I pointed to left field like Ruth and called it (part of my usual job). I said this woman for sure is gonna have a problem with my race. (If she doesn’t, I win too.) Was it a stereotype? Of course!!! I left out that she’s a bona fide hick. Golly, Was that racist just now, y’all? Of course it was. Are my wife and SBs white? Naturally, I love white women and they naturally have great taste lol!
Some providers indicate that they won't see obese guys. I only have only had two providers who told me after I was in their incall and and we were doing foreplay that they did not want me to have CFS with them. Only HG and BBBJ but no CIM.
I suggested CG or RCG as a compromise, but no. OK, I won't see you again. As I have 45 minutes left get on your knees.
It has happened to me as well, but usually more discreetly. No kissing, no breast play, just sitting by my cock playing with it till I cum or am so board nothing happens.
I'm under the impression that in the screening process that is one of the questions! I guess it's to exclude whoever the provider doesn't want to see! I have to answer it every time to be cleared. So, is that a standard question for GP, or are all the providers that ask it racist?
You never know why. Maybe they had unpleasant experiences. Maybe they are managing risk assessments. Unfortunately plenty of decent guys get hurt by the actions of dirtbag guys. I mean the whole deal with screening is because some guys are thugs.
When a provider won’t see me for whatever reason, I just look at it this way, the money looks better in my bank account, then hers! I’m 60 yrs old, so I really could care less if some providers don’t want to see me!
They say so in their ad so clients can self-screen on that point.
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Why does Moscow not have a basketball league?
There aren't enough blacks to make a team.
Most of the time it is from bad experiences. Where guys rob them.
I saw one that was have black and half Russian. Very passionate intense session.
So white men don’t rob a provider ? Seriously I don’t know the percentage of black/white men that are hobbyists. Yet I can bet a great majority are white hence more white men would rob a provider right ?
Black men are six times more likely to murder than white men. Same with other crimes. Risk management.
My original post was intended as "realist" not racist.
I will stop here by responding: Black men are more than six times more likely to get arrested than white men for doing anything, just by standing in the same spot.
...well she can see whoever she chooses to, deal with it and move on.
I haven't experienced any type of discrimination thankfully, but I've come across ads that I've found seemingly quite racist, but it's so common that I wonder why it's so accepted or prevalent, or if there are other reasons at play here besides skin color.
I'm referring to the ads I've seen that very specifically say, "No AA" or "no blk men". In any other context such wording would be shocking if not just outright unconstitutional, but it seems accepted in our hobby. Can anyone explain the reasons why?
As purchasing sex is not legal anywhere in the USA except for some counties in Nevada, purchasers have no Constitutional protections against discrimination.
I have asked some Black providers as to why they won't see Black men, I've been told:
- Some black men are often too rude, aggressive and pushy for providers. They want to go BBBJ and BBFS when the provider made it clear that those are not allowed.
- Some black men are very long and thick and some providers do not want to be ripped apart.
- Some black men want to become the woman's pimp.
That's funny, I wrote basically the same thing as your first sentence in another reply lol! And yes, of course, I was just being facetious in any case lol
But I was genuinely curious why so many ads I've see had the "no AA" policy and thank you for enlightening me. The only one I had suspected before was your second reason, but I had seen this policy in ads for providers that offered strictly FBSM only, so I suspected there had to be other reasons as well.
I would have never guessed the third reason lol, so that's interesting to me.
But for the record, I have no problems at all if a provider has these preferences, especially if she's upfront about it. I know I have my own tastes, and I probably do have racial preferences, which except for the very rare exception, I would never imagine deviating from. So I don't know if that makes me racist as a person, but it would be hard for me to argue that I don't have a racist cock.
Do any of the above apply to white males ?
Hmm, probably all with the exception of being long and thick.
You along with their dog whistles are more like bullhorns of racism. White men are NEVER rude pushy or aggressive.
Of course they have never pushed the boundaries and requested BBFS. Only black men are pimps.
Your post is BS.
"hobbling" threads are on the over 60 board? Lol
My fat finger misses the mark on my iPhone screen sometimes, esp early in the morning.
This thread may be about the Asian perspective but my post was specifically to the poster who brought up “why no AA?” Which has been discussed millions of times!
Just your post and said what I said... LOL..
Sometimes I don't got no time to read the whole thang, but my finger itches for reply, sometimes I just lazy.. LOL
http://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?height=800&def_id=c79a9ff817d7caedf59ce269cccc11ed
Place of public accommodation means a facility operated by a private entity whose operations affect commerce and fall within at least one of the following categories -
(1) Place of lodging, except for an establishment located within a facility that contains not more than five rooms for rent or hire and that actually is occupied by the proprietor of the establishment as the residence of the proprietor. For purposes of this part, a facility is a “place of lodging” if it is -
(i) An inn, hotel, or motel; or
(ii) A facility that -
(A) Provides guest rooms for sleeping for stays that primarily are short-term in nature (generally 30 days or less) where the occupant does not have the right to return to a specific room or unit after the conclusion of his or her stay; and
(B) Provides guest rooms under conditions and with amenities similar to a hotel, motel, or inn, including the following -
(1) On- or off-site management and reservations service;
(2) Rooms available on a walk-up or call-in basis;
(3) Availability of housekeeping or linen service; and
(4) Acceptance of reservations for a guest room type without guaranteeing a particular unit or room until check-in, and without a prior lease or security deposit.
(2) A restaurant, bar, or other establishment serving food or drink;
(3) A motion picture house, theater, concert hall, stadium, or other place of exhibition or entertainment;
(4) An auditorium, convention center, lecture hall, or other place of public gathering;
(5) A bakery, grocery store, clothing store, hardware store, shopping center, or other sales or rental establishment;
(6) A laundromat, dry-cleaner, bank, barber shop, beauty shop, travel service, shoe repair service, funeral parlor, gas station, office of an accountant or lawyer, pharmacy, insurance office, professional office of a health care provider, hospital, or other service establishment;
(7) A terminal, depot, or other station used for specified public transportation;
(8) A museum, library, gallery, or other place of public display or collection;
(9) A park, zoo, amusement park, or other place of recreation;
(10) A nursery, elementary, secondary, undergraduate, or postgraduate private school, or other place of education;
(11) A day care center, senior citizen center, homeless shelter, food bank, adoption agency, or other social service center establishment; and
(12) A gymnasium, health spa, bowling alley, golf course, or other place of exercise or recreation.
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Per item (12), A Provider often provides "a place of exercise or recreation" but it still doesn't qualify as a place of public accommodation.
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And that's why it is not unconstitutional.
Wrong, the simple answer is that prostitution isn't legal in this country (with the exception of certain counties of Nevada, of course), and therefore there's no basis for violating anti-discrimination laws when offering services that are illegal in the first place...duh LOL! 🤦♂️👊😂
So? She can decide to see or not see whoever she wants.. go find someone else then. Quit bitching about it. Side note: after seeing this shit-show of a geriatric, senile asshat for President I'd vote for Trump next time in a heart beat .. :P
I’m sure you voted for him the last time. Thoughts and prayers with Covid.
And it was about 7 years ago. I have her on ignore and think she still posts ads here these days. It didn’t really bother me as I could really give a shit as I lost nothing. Have I witnessed or heard racism otherwise, of course, and its usually an ignorant comment like being called a beaner when I’m not even Latino. I’ve given as good as I’ve gotten when I felt it necessary to stand up for myself or for those who were wrongly insulted because the person didn’t know my heritage. But, in the end, I have to assume that most people have barely experienced all that much serious racism without looking for it in some fashion. Hell, some of my favorite comedy is race-based, and I’m a firm believer in laughing at something that can be construed as being hateful as a means of taking power away from it. If I do something stupid when I’m driving or miss a turn, I usually say that my Asian half took the wheel just now. Is that racist? It’s certainly a stereotype, but it’s also jokingly directed at myself. Just like when I tell someone I’m half Asian but it’s from the waist up.
Those I’ve known personally throughout my life who have claimed feeling racism are all basically snowflake bitches who need to develop thicker skin or flat out losers who are always looking for an excuse for being a failure. This is definitely not to say people don’t suffer true hate for their heritage but, among my peers and coworkers, I think they just put too much into what stupid people say. Life is too short to give a flying fuck what strangers think about me. That’s why I don’t waste time with SocMed other than here and LinkedIn if these even count.
Do I ever wonder why a provider won’t see a certain race? I could jump to conclusions, but I don’t particularly care to waste any energy on even that. I’ve even gotten to the point where I barely ever see American providers anymore, mainly because any drama I’ve suffered in the hobby has all involved white or black Americans, so I have my own preferences that could be questioned as well. My personal stance is this: if it really bothers someone, they should put their energy into fixing the problem, otherwise they should shut the fuck up and move on.
If it ain't race, it's age, hair (or lack thereof) and any number of reasons women/providers decide they don't want our money.
I try not to take it too seriously, as this is supposed to be a fun activity. I'd much prefer that she state her preferences so that I can move along to the next candidate and not waste either of our valuable time.
If she wasted my time and turned me away at the door (as has happened a couple of times since '92) -- yeah, I'd be pissed.