Shortly after Fosta/Sesta I reached out to a provider on Preferred 411 and asked if she would prescreen me. This was common after Fosta/Sesta because there was a lot of uncertainty if popular platforms would continue to operate.  

Rather than respond back to me and answer my question, this unnamed provider went on a long twitter rant about clients not reading her website. That all of the information about screening could be found on her website and that the only way to contact her was through her booking form yada yada yada. I think she probably threw in a couple of Beyoncé gifs in the twitter rant too.

The question I had was not answered on her website. Thankfully, I did not book. She screened herself out of my business. The other provider I reached out to on Preferred 411 answered my question and we had several dates.

My question for providers is do you think these stupid rants are more likely to attract clients or repel them?

When you shop for a new car and send an inquiry to the dealer either by phone or email, which dealer would you be more likely to patronize?

1) The dealer who did not respond to your question personally, but went on the dealership’s social media account on a rant about how all specs for the 2020 Acura MDX are listed on the website and the only way to contact them is by filling out the form on their site.

2)The dealer who answers the question professionally instead of having a dick swinging contest on twitter to show off to their colleagues how they tell off potential clients?

Do the ladies who think questions are the most inconvenient thing ever think that your line of work is the only one where potential clients ask questions about the product being offered?

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Do you think a post as stupid as this is more likely to attract reasoned discussion or repel it?

You don't have to see any rude Bitches. Just muster hate twice.

the same techniques in looking for sexual services that you do when buying a car?  Do you think that's wise?  A car is a hunk of metal.  Sexual services are highly personal between two people.  I can't imagine using the same approach.  Maybe you could avoid some rants if you treated a provider a little differently than you do a car salesman.  Just a suggestion.  

 
BTW, a 2020 brand new car may be something you want, but in my experience, providers are better when they have at least a little mileage on them.  Too many things can go wrong when they're brand new.

You sound fired up lol tough guy

Just because one is hot, young and skilled doesn't necessarily mean she is good at the business side of p4p. These girls have all different types of backgrounds and I am actually quite impressed by most of them with regards to their business acumen.

 
But "most" is certainly not all and I have tried to put that all in its proper context over the years. My first SB, a girl I really love as a person, was a wide eyed, come what may, free spirit. She was super cute, fun, loved to drink, eat, screw, laugh, etc. Just a GREAT time and a very sweet girl.

 
The only issue was she had zero business sense and I tried to help her as best I could, but she just wasn't concerned about being a professional. She just loved life and like the feather in Gump, the wind would take her in one direction one day and the other direction the next. She didn't have a care in the world.

 
Now she wouldn't be the type to badger about not reading her website because she truly didn't care enough about all the rules, regs and protocols. She was just a good time girl, a party all the time chick.

 
She did screen, as I really kinda reinforced how important that was to her, as I knew some asshole would take advantage of her good nature, but that was about it, from a professional stand point.  

 
So on the opposite end of the spectrum, you have girls like you mention. I find most of these types to be stress queens and severely burnt out, so I actually appreciate the "tell" from them so I can avoid them.

 
Think about how shitty of a time you would have had with her, so try and feel lucky she saved you some money and thank her for being unprofessional. Lol

 
The rants and the complaining isn't going to stop. The high end twitter crowd finds something every day to bitch about out loud and it amazes me just how dumb this is from a business perspective but what are we to do about that?

 
EVERY day there is someone on twitter saying "guys, you DIDNT read ALL my website!" or "guys,  JUST fill out ALL 52 sections of my form!!" The condescension is palpable and the demeaning tone is nauseating.  

 
But its that EXACT attitude as to why they invented girl #2 on your list and makes you appreciate all the great girls doing this and yes, in my experience, it is the overwhelming majority of them.

These are probably the "Karens (let me see your manager)" of the escort world.  I think they dis-proportionally populate the stripper world ... "don't take shit from nobody", ready to throw down at the slightest thing.   They're ruled by their indignation, not by PR considerations.  You could try to tell them it's bad for PR, but then they'll probably try to scratch your eyes out.

I agree with everything you said here! It is better she showed you her true self.  

I do have a copy/paste message to send when I get the same questions over and over in my inbox. A lot A LOT of women have auto-reply messages, but I hate those as a provider asking for reference, and I would hate subjecting my clients to the same auto-reply email every time they message me.

Ranting is just bad business protocol... but I will admit when I got an email where the subject was RATES and there was no body to it, I wrote back something along the lines of "Do you seriously think that is the way to approach a woman" and they never responded. There are emails that don't even get a response if it is a one line hi, hey there, are you available, and no information or introduction from the gent. I am not a ranting type, and have never sent a scathing message to someone asking a question. To each their own, we know not everyone in this hobby is pleasant. It is almost like a field of land mines and you never know which one will blow up. (Providers take similar risks seeing absolute strangers, who may have anger issues or outbursts after acting perfectly normal)  

If you've got a complaint about a provider, how about stating it like a man instead of couching it in a faux-ever-so-sickeningly-polite question? Geez, you sound like my ex-wife! Why don't you grow a pair?

My question for you is do you always let randoms from your past continue to piss you off since you still think about them years later???

You ended up meeting another provider who answered your questions -- and y'all even met more than once.  

So, be thankful for the other provider who enjoys you, and drop the one who likely doesn't even remember you (nor your questions)

 

 The ladies don't offer products.  

The ladies offer services, FYI.......................

As a client who has never filled out a screening form but rather sent a request with an email and references have not ever received a blast back from a provider . You obviously are not new or burned out with your rational discussion here .
You and I want both fair  value and safety  for both sides and you have very clearly stated the provider side.

It seems like too many people start off with a preconceived notion about who has more credibility, the person posting the rant, or the person being ranted about, the "rantee" so to speak. lol

 
If we are to take the OP at his word, I personally have to agree with him 100%, and once again "taking him at his word" he was completely respectful and did NOT come across as someone buying a hunk of metal. Now here comes the rub, most of the time, ok almost ALL of the time, there is "he said" "she said" and then the actual truth of what was actually said. So who the fuck knows who was in the right or wrong in any particular case?

 
That said, the provider in question appears to have a "screening form" which she DEMANDS her clients and would-be clients use EXCLUSIVELY to communicate with her. These type of women do tend to go a bit over the top when a guy dares to communicate with her in any other manner. Personally, I am more inclined to believe the OP than disbelieve him and my advice to him is to simply avoid women who DEMAND the use of one of those insipid screening forms for all communications with her. He'll eliminate 90% of this kind of crap by doing so.

 
Remember the old adage.

 
I will beg for pussy, I will pay for pussy, but I will NOT beg to pay for pussy.

 
Jumping through hoops like "using screening forms ONLY" is by my definition "begging to pay for pussy" It's amazing how much less whining a guy will feel like doing when he simply grows a spine and doesn't jump through needless hoops in the first place. I don't think I have EVER, not in 16 years and over 50,000 posts whined about how some hooker was "mean to me" on this or any other board.

That’s primarily why I use twitter to lurk to get a good idea on their personality. If the timeline is full of nothing but complaining about clients,  I will pass. A lot of ladies screen themselves out of appointments.

I ended up meeting a great provider because the first one was unprofessional in response to a general inquiry. It all worked out

that wants you to jump through major hoops for the divine pleasure of renting their pussy, for which you are paying, there are two or three others that are easier to work with and just happy to have the business.  For some, its like the old salesman's ploy of making something "hard to get, but easy to buy."  Its more about controlling the customer dynamic than it is anything else.  

One advantage of Twitter is that the ladies can post screenshots of the inquiries that set them off...and believe me, some of the rants are justified. The clients can be just as unprofessional as the BSC providers. That being said, the ladies who are truly  BSC can't hide it forever; inevitably they will tweet something that throws up a red flag. I haven't unfollowed any of the red flags; I live by the old adage "keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

Lol maybe so, but with the way you and CDL responded there is no need to to go the provider directly when you two are more than willing speak for them. Thank you you two filled in amply well and responded the way you would expect a BSC provider to respond. Lol DIMBOY

First off, you were correct in reaching out to her and asking that you be prescreened thru P411, that is the whole point of that website. As long as I can prescreen/verify you I will gladly answer your questions .... but where I see her side is I CAN NOT stand having someone ask me info that is CLEARLY ON MY WEBSITE... Now I have no idea what you asked and if it was on her site...Im just saying that nothing irriates me more when a potential client Texts or Emails: How much for the hour baby? Are you GFE? Where are you located or Do you do this,this,that with this and that after this.
Everything is on my website so that there doesnt need to be a discussion about those questions ....
But if I can screen you and your question is something not listed on my site there should be zero issue in responding to you.

Tina,  

My only question was simply “Would you be kind enough to prescreen me? I am not ready to book yet will be in town in 2 months and we can figure out a specific time when the date is closer to arriving” I asked  no questions about services. I saw nothing on her site about prescreening without booking a firm date. If she simply said I only screen when you are ready with a specific date and time in mind that would have been fine.

This bullshit about posting it in the form of a phony and loaded question is what I think is the wimpiest, most passive-aggressive way imaginable. And that's what I specifically called you out about. Oh, and I said exactly NOTHING in defense of any provider. That's because a) I have no idea who she is because you didn't have the balls to name her; and b) I have no idea if your complaint is valid or not. Hard to say when you can't even find the spine to stand up for yourself. If somebody shit on you, then call them out specifically and let everyone render their opinion. This "question for providers" facade is a joke, and it's at your expense. It's funny to think how, if people can't find a backbone to speak plainly and directly on an anonymous fuckboard, how pathetic must they be in real life (smh)!