TER General Board

Here's how'd I go about it....
myHowhastheMarketChanged 278 reads
posted
1 / 34

Some ladies get a sugar daddy. When that happens they jack up the prices. Customers get pissed off and never come back even when the prices decrease.

Charge what you feel you are worth. If the phone does not ring lower the price. In most markets $200/hour you will always be in business.

Take a look at your competition. Looks at the reviews of previous customers and find out what they are paying for their recently posted reviews. Make sure to compare the services (GFE).

Also realize the economy is weak. Many people have not gotten raises in a few years.

skankazoid 251 reads
posted
2 / 34

Education plays no role whatsoever in this business.  If a lady were college educated, I would think she can make a living without having to hook.  Otherwise that would be the ultimate waste of an education.  
It's such a joke to see someone market herself as being college educated simply to demand a higher price.  Nobody cares...and I doubt their truthfulness anyway.

This business is simply johns paying to fuck hookers.  Nobody is looking for a life partner. Someone said it earlier, you're giving this way too much thought....and erroneous at that.

HalfHour 218 reads
posted
3 / 34

she should simple charge what the market will bear. That is, what amount clients will pay, in sufficient number, to give her the income she needs, balanced with the amount of time and expense she has the ability to spend in obtaining that income.

The other factors of who, what, when, where, why, are just reasoning and rationale she can use to keep herself motivated and placated in giving of herself and accepting the physical and emotional toll that providing will have on her.

No easy feat in deterring that, either.

No matter what your head for business may be, there are simply to many unknowable or unsubstantiatable factors involved in providing when compared to most any other business.

Ultimately, the earmarks that seems to usually used by providers in determining what they charge are, a) what is seemingly the common rate already being charged by other providers that the individual imagines themselves to be like, b) how little of an amount the individual is willing to accept, emotionally for being involved in the activity for a single session with an undesirable stranger, c) how much of an amount the individual believes they personally are, or should be, worth to client for being involved in the activity for a single session, and d) whether or not the phone rings when they open themselves for business at that determined rate.

Unlike other "legitimate" or societal sanctioned businesses, there is little real standard business fact or information than a provider can get in determining market need, anticipated costs, and sales projections, which would give the provider a sound basis for analyzing and determining the optimal price point to meet her goals. Additionally, there are too many varying personal factors for each provider (and also the client) to make what information IS available, truly relevant across the spectrum of providers as individuals.

My guess is that, in the end, most providers are actually playing a game of follow the leader, or might one say, 'who they imagine themselves to be following who they imagine the leader,' which is a very emotionally and intuitive process, and when doing so basically throw their marketing strategy (strategies) against the wall "and see what sticks."

None of my last statement is in any way pejorative, nor an indictment of the amazing abilities, intelligence, or capabilities of the extraordinary women who can be considered "true providers." In fact, I believe it takes an extraordinary woman to put together the myriad of ambiguous factors and come out with a way to be successfully be a provider who makes her clients and herself happy, and satisfied with the rates she charges.

A simpler way to put all that information, once it is boiled completely down is: Somewhere between $200 and $400 per hour for the whooooole enchilada in most of the US for most ladies. Pick a price and see what works.  ;)

mrfisher 115 Reviews 245 reads
posted
4 / 34

I would do research on other providers who seem similar to me in terms of looks and offerings, then price my time right in the middle of their range of rates.

If I see that I'm not attracting enough business despite a big effort at marketing, I'd lower the rates incremetally until I see some business picking up.  Then after securing a base of regulars, I'd grandfather them for a period of time and then bump my rates upward incremetally if that can be done without losing too much new business.

By the way, this is just plain old Marketing 101 and applies to just about any competitive business.

OSP 26 Reviews 239 reads
posted
5 / 34

she may charge whatever she likes. Its my responsibility to decide if she's WORTH her asking price. I have been in contact with a young lady who consistantly receives 7/8-8/10's. She has offered me each hour at $150. Am i gonna see her? DAMN SKIPPY! I think its because i know mrfisher lol

Vanica See my TER Reviews 1654 reads
posted
6 / 34

Often you'll hear "Whoa, she is way overpriced!" or maybe "All that for only that? Must be TGTBT."

So what exactly should a lady charge? Let's be logical and break it down.


Let's say a base rate - not matter what for an hour is $100. So we will start there.

Then let's add in looks. From 1 - 3 how much additional if any. If a lady is averages an 7/8 how much can she add on to her base $50, maybe $75/$100 if she is a steady  9-10 in looks.  Then again looks are subjective.

On to performance. Let's say she is considered GFE (Ignoring ultra, ultimate, super GFE as who knows what the hell those mean), add on another $50. Then let's say she is a 8+ in the performance area will all the bells and whistles - how much more there? $25 - $50?

What about fetishes? A lady willing to participate in all the naughty/dirty things you might desire. How much should we add on for that? This might be particularly valuable since civvies often cringe at anything remotely taboo. Another $50 here.

Next, the intangibles. Education, sophistication and personality. College educated - add on another $50. Grad school or better - $75, maybe. A lady with a sweet and pleasant demeanor is a plus - right. Another $25. Speaks foreign languages, knows about various subjects, and has a regal demeanor. Or if she is funny and can make you laugh. Do these deem her more marketable? If so then they should come at a premium.

Location - Downtown in any city is a premium. Cost on her end is higher as is her accessibility to a larger group of clientele. Add on another $25 for a good location. Also, the city she is in might be reason for an increase. Obviously cities like NY, LA, DC and San Francisco call for additional fees and they do in almost any other business area, (retail, food, lodging).

Last, but not least - Reputation and Experience. A new girl who may not know much or who may not be well known does attract attention as the "new girl" but often makes others worried about her reliability. A lady with a proven record of honesty, reliability and success should be able to ask for more as does anyone else in any field. Basically, it's Entry level vs. Executive. Add on another $50

Do any other factors matter? Maybe indy vs. agency? Or perhaps if a lady is low volume with limited availability skewing her supply vs. demand? Or a lady's accommodations: Does she offer wine, toiletries, shower facilities, high end location, snacks, etc.


Now my numbers aren't pure science, just suggestions.
Any other ideas or input?

Kisses,
Vanica





harborview 10 Reviews 213 reads
posted
7 / 34
inicky46 61 Reviews 298 reads
posted
9 / 34

You left out one of the most important factors: what is the competition charging?  What is the prevailing rate in your locale for comparable providers?

Vanica See my TER Reviews 297 reads
posted
10 / 34

I thought about that. But if all followed the system I set, that would be small factor. And I did add in location as a factor - rates are higher in certain areas because of cost of living usually. Would not that adjust or makes allowances for what you mention.

As well the phrase "comparable providers" is somewhat vague and misleading I think. A girl might have similar "reviews" as me, but her look/demeanor/services offered might be totally different.

You may not know this, but I am Black, and Blacks make up about 12% of the population - so comparing myself to a girl whose demographic makes up 50% of the population is comparing mangos to apples. I would have to compare myself to girls who not only look like, but have similar attributes, characteristics, etc to myself. It's a tough comparison when not considering other factors.

johngaltnh 6 Reviews 393 reads
posted
11 / 34

Here's the good news: you are not in the business of fulfilling a rational need. Rather, you are in the business of fulfilling an emotional need -- though the exact components of that requirement will vary with each individual.

Take a moment and really look carefully at advertising for everything from toothpaste to cars. You will notice that the advertising seldom has a laundry list of superior attributes as its primary feature. Rather, the primary feature of most advertising is to somehow associate the advertised product, even if implicitly, with its ability to fulfill an emotional need.

I once authorized an ad campaign that focused on a woman's desire for recognition of her abilities, to feel high status and to see herself as attractive and effective. What was I selling? Phone service. Oh sure, the ads detailed things like price/features; but in a million subtle ways those ads targeted the emotional needs of the demographic (women) that controls 2/3rds of the consumer spending decisions. Does the product ACTUALLY meet those needs? Probably not. But because of the placebo effect, I am quite certain many women, subtly hypnotized by the ads, actually DID feel their status had increased and they were more effective simply for using the phone service I had advertised. Manipulation through emotional appeal: it's all in a day's work.

But the important thing for you to garner from my example is that my association of the product with an emotional appeal made it WORTH MORE in the minds of those who saw the advertising.

Now, in your case, you aren't making an attempt to associate something as cold as copper wire with emotional needs. Rather, you really DO fulfill quite real (rather than created by advertising) emotional needs. Hence, your pricing is related much more to emotion than reason.

And that is a GOOD THING!  

Because, let's face it -- in an environment of pure reason, there is no way on earth that an hour with an escort is worth even $100/hr.

What does an exemplary teacher with an advanced degree get paid to impart essential skills to 30 children? $35/hr. What does an engineer get paid who checks the stress calculations for cement to make sure thousands of people don't die on a bridge? $50/hr. What does a paramedic get paid to help save you from the grim reaper when you are powerless to help yourself? $16/hr.

You may argue that escorting is a dangerous occupation, but so are fire fighting and law enforcement, and the national average pay for a fire fighter is $20/hr and a cop only earns $25/hr on average nationwide.

As a matter of pure reason, if we were to argue that being an escort required skills equivalent to a teacher with a master's degree and were as hazardous as being a cop, and these salaries were added together, it would be worth $60/hr. And, hey -- that's the equivalent of $120k/annum which ain't chump change.

But, like I said, luckily for you and other escorts, you are dealing in a non-rational market that is driven almost exclusively by emotion with reason only intruding from the perimeters.

What your rate should be, then, is dictated wholly by market forces: what will a willing buyer pay a willing seller?

In general, there are three major factors affecting rates: location, appearance, reputation.

Your location is important. A girl who can get $400/hr in NYC or Chicago might find only one customer in Brainerd, MN; and that customer might be able to afford $250 once a month. So just in terms of the availability of customers with the requisite resources, your location is a key component of rates. (But it also affects how much you have to pay for rent, etc.)

I did a statistical analysis of rates, performance ratings and appearance ratings for three major metro areas about a year ago just for fun to see what trends would emerge. I discovered that appearance ratings have 2.5 times the impact of performance ratings in terms of correlation to rates, SO LONG AS performance ratings were above the threshold of 7.6. Performance ratings lower than 7 particularly killed rates. But comparing two girls in the same location with average performance ratings of 8, the girl with an appearance of 9 gets to charge a lot more than the girl with the appearance rating of 8.

I have hit on performance, which I am using to represent reputation. Performance has to exceed 7.6 on average. Once it exceeds 7.6, it also affects rates but not as much as appearance.

Outside of these factors, the primary thing I would add is emotional appeal to niche markets.

I happen to have a thing for intelligent and insightful women. I enjoy their company and it fulfills a certain emotional gap for me. So the obvious presence of such traits in a woman makes time with her more valuable to me than knowing she will fulfill my fetish for women who stand on their heads while stacking wooden nickels with their tongue. (Or whatever!  lol)

So most women I have seen, if you were to look at their ads and/or websites, you will see certain things they have done to specifically appeal to men who value their minds.

In other words, these women have a strength -- in this case intellect and/or insight -- and they use that strength as a marketing niche thus making them more valuable to people whose emotional needs are for companionship where their strength lies. (Though the fact they are very hot and sex experts doesn't hurt! lol)

But the same applies with other things. Some men have an emotional need to be with women who have certain types of appearance, certain behaviors, etc. Rates are always highest where the woman is able to assess her strengths, tie those strengths to a demonstrable emotional need in a subset of the male population, and then use her website and advertising to selectively target men whose needs lie in her realm of strength.

This answers your question about fetishes. (Though I should point out that the strength of the male sex drive is such that it is incredibly easy to induce practically any sort of fetish in a man simply through conditioned association.) The trouble is that even though a guy with a certain fetish may be willing to pay more, there may not be enough men with that sort of fetish to make it worthwhile. If I were a provider, I would instead make use of fetishes as a way of turning men into repeat customers.

So -- bottom line: be in a major metro, keep your performance average above 7.6, look as hot as you possibly can, and use your strengths as an emotional appeal. This will maximize your rates. Use fetishes as a business retention tool.

And yes -- then you will find men, quite irrationally, who are literally willing to pay you to sleep in proximity to them, because it meets a purely emotional need.

NYSt8tofMind 31 Reviews 222 reads
posted
12 / 34

Several women I've seen also set their price points to "weed out the undesirables."  i.e. what class of gentleman looks for an $80 quickie versus a $500 1 hour appointment.

YourSweetMarie See my TER Reviews 186 reads
posted
14 / 34
inicky46 61 Reviews 234 reads
posted
15 / 34

There are so many factors that go into price, that I think you've asked a question that's impossible to answer.  For example, somethimes a gal will set a relatively high price for her services that is not based on specific criteria at all, but based on her wanting to be low volume and go for higher-end clients.  Just one more reason why there are so many answers I doubt you will ever derive a formula for pricing.  Good luck, V.

curt23 13 Reviews 245 reads
posted
16 / 34

Your calculations are base on certain things ad value to your cost. College education as an example ads no value to your worth as an escort. Yes ability to talk intelligent helps with the chemistry of a GFE session, but many ladies without college are able to talk just as intelligent. As has been said your location is the number one factor in cost. In a small market in middle America your not going to get as much no matter how many pluses you add. To your original statement about being over priced I start with the going average rate for a city. Then we start subtracting, if she is at the high end of the average price I look at what is special about her over the other ladies or she is overpriced. If she is not a true GFE you lose 50 to 200. If your appearance is below your competition you lose another 50. If your not able to talk intelligently maybe 25 to 50 off. If your older then the average ladies and you look it take off 50. Basically unless you have some extra special qualities such as porn star you will find it hard to get more then average for the city and if you have any negatives you then have to start discounting from there. Location being the key factor.

Posted By: Vanica
Often you'll hear "Whoa, she is way overpriced!" or maybe "All that for only that? Must be TGTBT."

So what exactly should a lady charge? Let's be logical and break it down.


Let's say a base rate - not matter what for an hour is $100. So we will start there.

Then let's add in looks. From 1 - 3 how much additional if any. If a lady is averages an 7/8 how much can she add on to her base $50, maybe $75/$100 if she is a steady  9-10 in looks.  Then again looks are subjective.

On to performance. Let's say she is considered GFE (Ignoring ultra, ultimate, super GFE as who knows what the hell those mean), add on another $50. Then let's say she is a 8+ in the performance area will all the bells and whistles - how much more there? $25 - $50?

What about fetishes? A lady willing to participate in all the naughty/dirty things you might desire. How much should we add on for that? This might be particularly valuable since civvies often cringe at anything remotely taboo. Another $50 here.

Next, the intangibles. Education, sophistication and personality. College educated - add on another $50. Grad school or better - $75, maybe. A lady with a sweet and pleasant demeanor is a plus - right. Another $25. Speaks foreign languages, knows about various subjects, and has a regal demeanor. Or if she is funny and can make you laugh. Do these deem her more marketable? If so then they should come at a premium.

Location - Downtown in any city is a premium. Cost on her end is higher as is her accessibility to a larger group of clientele. Add on another $25 for a good location. Also, the city she is in might be reason for an increase. Obviously cities like NY, LA, DC and San Francisco call for additional fees and they do in almost any other business area, (retail, food, lodging).

Last, but not least - Reputation and Experience. A new girl who may not know much or who may not be well known does attract attention as the "new girl" but often makes others worried about her reliability. A lady with a proven record of honesty, reliability and success should be able to ask for more as does anyone else in any field. Basically, it's Entry level vs. Executive. Add on another $50

Do any other factors matter? Maybe indy vs. agency? Or perhaps if a lady is low volume with limited availability skewing her supply vs. demand? Or a lady's accommodations: Does she offer wine, toiletries, shower facilities, high end location, snacks, etc.


Now my numbers aren't pure science, just suggestions.
Any other ideas or input?

Kisses,
Vanica





JustAGal See my TER Reviews 246 reads
posted
17 / 34


Engage in  pay per pop and not pay for play.


In that case you are absolutely correct. College education, poise, class, tact, ability to conduct herself with discretion are irrelevant as far as your hookers are concerned. As long as they can spread their legs and chew gum at the same time ... You are good.


Once you start venturing into the world of companions, all those silly things suddenly matter.

Lina
 

Posted By: skankazoid
Education plays no role whatsoever in this business.  If a lady were college educated, I would think she can make a living without having to hook.  Otherwise that would be the ultimate waste of an education.  
It's such a joke to see someone market herself as being college educated simply to demand a higher price.  Nobody cares...and I doubt their truthfulness anyway.

This business is simply johns paying to fuck hookers.  Nobody is looking for a life partner. Someone said it earlier, you're giving this way too much thought....and erroneous at that.

LuckyIrishPrick 6 Reviews 206 reads
posted
18 / 34

If you, as a consumer, do business with me, I promise you I am going to squeeze every penny I can out of your ass. And when I am the cutomer of another business, I am seeking top value - trying to stretch my dollar as far as it can go - I will take all I can get for my money. That is the nature of business.

It is the goal of businesses to try and empty your pockets, and the goal of consumers to recieve high returns on their money. Push and pull, push and pull. The business almost always wins this tug of war, unless they price thmselves out of the market.

ExAgencyGirl 287 reads
posted
19 / 34

I used the search reviews feature. Entered all the activities I provide, my age range and rating range. Specified my city. Then I hit search. 12 providers came up. I added up their rates, divided by 12, and there was my magic number. Rounded it to the nearest hundred and it's been working great for me.

In an idea world education, class, seniority and more would go into the equation but in this economy I'm happy to get the same as other providers, even if I have an $80,000 student loan that they might not.

ExAgencyGirl 245 reads
posted
20 / 34

I agree with you on looking at the competition's reviews and the economy, but as far as a sugar daddy clouding a provider's decision, not really. If a girl can get a sugar daddy, let her raise the price. She obviously no longer needs "volumes" of new clients for an hourly fee.
There are different kinds of women in this business and some of us value stability over the excitement of meeting new clients. Also sugar daddies need more of our time and attention so we can't spend as much time meeting new clients. We do need to charge a higher price because we have less hours available.
As someone who's had sugar daddies for years I can tell you that they are what keep some of us sane, they are what most girls thrive for, and if weren't for them, I doubt many girls would stay in this business. Few women want to be a revolving door of an ever changing flow of men. Who would rather sleep with 6-10 (depending on the area's hourly rates) random guys for $3,000 when she can get that from 1 gentleman? Just my 2 cents.

Posted By: myHowhastheMarketChanged
Some ladies get a sugar daddy. When that happens they jack up the prices. Customers get pissed off and never come back even when the prices decrease.

Charge what you feel you are worth. If the phone does not ring lower the price. In most markets $200/hour you will always be in business.

Take a look at your competition. Looks at the reviews of previous customers and find out what they are paying for their recently posted reviews. Make sure to compare the services (GFE).

Also realize the economy is weak. Many people have not gotten raises in a few years.

1192967 45 Reviews 215 reads
posted
21 / 34

It's clear from other responses that what you say here isn't completely true. Yes, there are those that believe and only want this to be a business where johns pay to fuck hookers. If that's what you want it's there for you. But to say that's all there is, is to ignore all the various providers that offer much more and make a good living at it. If there is something a man wants he will pay for it and there is a women willing to provide it. I do want an educated, intelligent lady. The proof is in the face to face meeting though. If she doesn't meet my needs in that area (whether she is college educated or not) I won't see her the second time. Yes, the OP is over thinking this. In addition I think John said it very well.

...and I always say, No matter how you analyze, it especially in this business, it's always different strokes for different folks.

harborview 10 Reviews 196 reads
posted
22 / 34

I DO agree with Ex angency girl above.  You should look at the highs & lows of your local area.  And the average of your local area.   I would try to match the center of both scales.  If you are too high, you can run Specials to build a client base while holding your price point.  It's easier to lower than to raise.  BUt if you are not gettingthe volume after a while, your price is too high for the local market.

Now that is why providers tour...  looking to tap markets better than their home market.  Or the relocate to a better market.  

There are realitively few who can get by on just a few paid meetings...  if they have a day job or a SD.  I can not evaluate your situation...  
H

actias~luna 191 reads
posted
23 / 34
inicky46 61 Reviews 224 reads
posted
24 / 34

Why am I not surprised you would say something like this, you sexy little mynx?

actias~luna 174 reads
posted
25 / 34
ChloeKensington 174 reads
posted
26 / 34

Very true. It's a whole different experience at cheaper rates so I hear.

DCIntroductions See Agency Profile 235 reads
posted
27 / 34

Posted By: johngaltnh
Here's the good news: you are not in the business of fulfilling a rational need. Rather, you are in the business of fulfilling an emotional need -- though the exact components of that requirement will vary with each individual.

Take a moment and really look carefully at advertising for everything from toothpaste to cars. You will notice that the advertising seldom has a laundry list of superior attributes as its primary feature. Rather, the primary feature of most advertising is to somehow associate the advertised product, even if implicitly, with its ability to fulfill an emotional need.

I once authorized an ad campaign that focused on a woman's desire for recognition of her abilities, to feel high status and to see herself as attractive and effective. What was I selling? Phone service. Oh sure, the ads detailed things like price/features; but in a million subtle ways those ads targeted the emotional needs of the demographic (women) that controls 2/3rds of the consumer spending decisions. Does the product ACTUALLY meet those needs? Probably not. But because of the placebo effect, I am quite certain many women, subtly hypnotized by the ads, actually DID feel their status had increased and they were more effective simply for using the phone service I had advertised. Manipulation through emotional appeal: it's all in a day's work.

But the important thing for you to garner from my example is that my association of the product with an emotional appeal made it WORTH MORE in the minds of those who saw the advertising.

Now, in your case, you aren't making an attempt to associate something as cold as copper wire with emotional needs. Rather, you really DO fulfill quite real (rather than created by advertising) emotional needs. Hence, your pricing is related much more to emotion than reason.

And that is a GOOD THING!  

Because, let's face it -- in an environment of pure reason, there is no way on earth that an hour with an escort is worth even $100/hr.

What does an exemplary teacher with an advanced degree get paid to impart essential skills to 30 children? $35/hr. What does an engineer get paid who checks the stress calculations for cement to make sure thousands of people don't die on a bridge? $50/hr. What does a paramedic get paid to help save you from the grim reaper when you are powerless to help yourself? $16/hr.

You may argue that escorting is a dangerous occupation, but so are fire fighting and law enforcement, and the national average pay for a fire fighter is $20/hr and a cop only earns $25/hr on average nationwide.

As a matter of pure reason, if we were to argue that being an escort required skills equivalent to a teacher with a master's degree and were as hazardous as being a cop, and these salaries were added together, it would be worth $60/hr. And, hey -- that's the equivalent of $120k/annum which ain't chump change.

But, like I said, luckily for you and other escorts, you are dealing in a non-rational market that is driven almost exclusively by emotion with reason only intruding from the perimeters.

What your rate should be, then, is dictated wholly by market forces: what will a willing buyer pay a willing seller?

In general, there are three major factors affecting rates: location, appearance, reputation.

Your location is important. A girl who can get $400/hr in NYC or Chicago might find only one customer in Brainerd, MN; and that customer might be able to afford $250 once a month. So just in terms of the availability of customers with the requisite resources, your location is a key component of rates. (But it also affects how much you have to pay for rent, etc.)

I did a statistical analysis of rates, performance ratings and appearance ratings for three major metro areas about a year ago just for fun to see what trends would emerge. I discovered that appearance ratings have 2.5 times the impact of performance ratings in terms of correlation to rates, SO LONG AS performance ratings were above the threshold of 7.6. Performance ratings lower than 7 particularly killed rates. But comparing two girls in the same location with average performance ratings of 8, the girl with an appearance of 9 gets to charge a lot more than the girl with the appearance rating of 8.

I have hit on performance, which I am using to represent reputation. Performance has to exceed 7.6 on average. Once it exceeds 7.6, it also affects rates but not as much as appearance.

Outside of these factors, the primary thing I would add is emotional appeal to niche markets.

I happen to have a thing for intelligent and insightful women. I enjoy their company and it fulfills a certain emotional gap for me. So the obvious presence of such traits in a woman makes time with her more valuable to me than knowing she will fulfill my fetish for women who stand on their heads while stacking wooden nickels with their tongue. (Or whatever!  lol)

So most women I have seen, if you were to look at their ads and/or websites, you will see certain things they have done to specifically appeal to men who value their minds.

In other words, these women have a strength -- in this case intellect and/or insight -- and they use that strength as a marketing niche thus making them more valuable to people whose emotional needs are for companionship where their strength lies. (Though the fact they are very hot and sex experts doesn't hurt! lol)

But the same applies with other things. Some men have an emotional need to be with women who have certain types of appearance, certain behaviors, etc. Rates are always highest where the woman is able to assess her strengths, tie those strengths to a demonstrable emotional need in a subset of the male population, and then use her website and advertising to selectively target men whose needs lie in her realm of strength.

This answers your question about fetishes. (Though I should point out that the strength of the male sex drive is such that it is incredibly easy to induce practically any sort of fetish in a man simply through conditioned association.) The trouble is that even though a guy with a certain fetish may be willing to pay more, there may not be enough men with that sort of fetish to make it worthwhile. If I were a provider, I would instead make use of fetishes as a way of turning men into repeat customers.

So -- bottom line: be in a major metro, keep your performance average above 7.6, look as hot as you possibly can, and use your strengths as an emotional appeal. This will maximize your rates. Use fetishes as a business retention tool.

And yes -- then you will find men, quite irrationally, who are literally willing to pay you to sleep in proximity to them, because it meets a purely emotional need.
I just came after reading that ;)

JamesDeenXXX 31 Reviews 292 reads
posted
28 / 34

This is how I look at it.....

Decent looks + Average service = $$ - $$$

Decent looks + Excellent service = $$$ - $$$.5

Above average looks + Average service = $$$ - $$$.5

Above average looks + Excellent service = $$$.5 - $$$$

Smokin' hot looks + Average service = $$$$ - $$$$$

Smokin' Hot looks + Excellent service + $$$$$ - $$$$$$$$$$


$ -- $100
$$ -- $200
$$$ -- $300
$$$.5 -- $350
$$$$ -- 400 etc, etc.

Decent looks = 7's
Above average looks = Strong 7's mixed with 8's and few 9's
Smokin' Hot looks = 9's and 10's (Nothing less)


Average service = CBJ or BBBJ, DATY, DFK, MSOG, No CIM and No Island Trips
Excellent service = Full Menu, Island Trips and CIM




Me personally.....Service is very important. But let's be honest, looks do matter and the hotter you are, the higher your rates can be, even with average service.




-- Modified on 9/30/2011 8:57:29 PM

-- Modified on 9/30/2011 8:59:34 PM

johngaltnh 6 Reviews 216 reads
posted
29 / 34

Just thinking about you ... whoa!

My brain is thankfully well protected by a cranium, but that doesn't seem to keep you from overloading all of its circuits!

Butterscotch13 2 Reviews 159 reads
posted
30 / 34

Agreed. A bunch of good ideas. Johngaltnh is, as always, amazing.  He actually ran the numbers!

ddd4111 215 reads
posted
31 / 34

There are some 'indy' ladies such as myself who have been savvy with our fortunes. I for one am very picky about my clientele so I bump my rates up. I find that raising my rates keeps a certain type of low-rent or blue collar away from me. The caviar crowd tends to prefer the lengthy visit and no rushed:clock watching on my behalf. It will take a "Lady of the Evening" sometime before she acquires such a listing with V.I.P clients. For it has nothing to do with her reviews,,character is one of those traits. The other maybe her keeping her mouth'' Shut'' due to a high profile executive fearing his or hers personal data leaking out! A sugar daddy may lose interest like most men tend to do with females.Those set ups may last for 3months to years depending on what the man may desire or may not? Though the cycle wears thin and he quickly seeks out another body for warmth. Very few women can hold a mans attention for very long and if you do. Then you are holding a blank "check" meaning endless cash,gifts,shopping,CC and a townhouse. As far as an average 'Working girl" treading with 6-10 men per day or weekly. To each her own though the common "SW" street walker may surrender up to that many Joe Blows daily. Or the ladies working in legal brothels because there is so much competition. Typically street walkers and ladies who work in brothels have quotas that they must fill. Escorts employed by agencies have competition/quotas like the phone ops who make a 40-80 comm. The more clients a phone op books for an escort, the more money is made. Escort agencies also have a higher over head. Phone book ads,magazine ads,and online ads are pricey to speak..

myHowhastheMarketChanged 206 reads
posted
32 / 34

I have heard of stories where they will play providers against other then drop one like a hot cake like said after a short season.

Other sugar daddies play games and get bbfs services getting providers pregnant. After the lady is pregnant they are no longer around to be found.

Register Now!