change a bad provider into a good
one by the way you handle the
situation in the appointment....

Like if I call a young hottie that
has reviews where the reviewers
say she takes the money and then
doesn't provide promised services
and wants more money.

If I withhold the money from her
and tell her when she gets here that
I will give it to her after said service.
do you think it will work?

Ladies have to come to that realization on their own. Best way to help them do that is to avoid upsellers. Lack of business speaks volumes.

Most providers I have been with want the money up front as soon as I walked into the door. I tried it a couple of times, but they told me that it doesn't work like that. And for good reason.

I mean, what happens if a client finish fucking her and he doesn't pay? Or, what happens if she does this to all of her clients, let's say, fuck five a day, and they run out the room after their done. You see where I am going with this?

I don't waste my time on lack luster services. Why would I even want to spend the time and effort to change a provider when I know that is how she will be? It's not like I am in a relationship with her, and there's a requirement to change her. All I want to do is fuck them, and roll out. I don't want to have to deal with that drama.

There are plenty of well reviewed ladies, don't waste your time and effort on the low scores. That's why they made TER, is to help hobbyist avoid drama. I'm not sure what your motive is in this hobby, but my is to fuck them, and dip. I don't want to get involve in any unnecessary drama. Too much baggage for me.

Do you really think a provider is going to entertain you and not get her donation upfront?Especially a provider who you know is going to upsell you do you really think she is going to go for what you are suggesting?Not happening!
Why would you even consider seeing a provider whose reviews state that she upsells and does not provide any service?Unless you do not mind encountering an upsell.
Your question reminds me of the person who is being abused and thinks if they do things differently it will stop the abuser it never does.Just like if a provider is bad whatever you do in an appointment is not going to change that and who even wants to go through trying to change someone?
Find a provider who does not do what you are speaking of you will not have to worry about the woulda,shoulda,coulda.
Just my .02

So you're seeking an adversarial situation where you can completely fuck yourself over potentially?

Swift.

If a young hottie that has reviews where the reviewers say she takes the money and then doesn't provide promised services, and then wants more money, why would you call her in the first place?

I see repeated post from men who feel like they have been ripped off because they did not get what they expected. And, then they get pissed off and lump all providers into one bag as being manipulative rip-offs.  And, then those who sweep in to defend them saying: they're newbies, give 'em a break, how could they have known?

But, some of this stuff is so obvious. Even a small amount of common sense should tell you that if reviews from others  say she takes the money and does not provide promised services, you would be taking a risk to book with her.

Who knows if your experience might be different from others?

of offering her a chance at
redemption....I'll call her
on the phone and say:
"you have some bad reviews,
would you like to change that?"

Maybe it won't work....

Go for it. I once seen a lady I know was using outdated photos but checked out otherwise. It was a huge waste of time and money. But in the end it was my money to waste and I could afford it. So if you have the time and money to gamble on a long shot and have the itch go for it. Maybe it will turn out better for you than it did me.

to tell you to fk off. If you get all the way out there and wait to tell her you won't pay until after, she may go ape sh*t and cause a scene...been done before. OTOH, if you tell her on the phone or via email you don't want to pay until after, she may just not see you at all. I don't see how you can win here.

If she is getting away with bad manners, why should she change?  The only thing that will stop that behavior is for her biz to dry up.  That's what reviews are for, to let us know about the scammers, upsellers, and other ladies to avoid for whatever reason.

Personally, if I had seen her and gotten the bum's rush, so to speak, I would not waste my time trying to rehab her.  I mean, why do that when there are so many quality providers out there?  She will find out soon enough her tricks aren't gonna work anymore.  Not my problem.

I guess my question is why would you be that worried about a substandard provider?????  I'd really be interested in knowing.

Swim

comes in a kicks your ass then takes your wallet for good measure... or maybe not. Maybe she will just take out her dick and fuck you instead...

will either be scammed or go without, unless you see rosie palm.