Just met a provider thqt used them.  First time for me.  Wonderful!   What is the G2 on them?

tell us what you liked about them. Did it look strange? How does it feel? Does it feel better than a regular condom? Does it feel almost bareback?
Details!

I have heard about them, but that should never take the place of a gentleman wearing one, as well

EOM

My experience with them has been negative.  First, they were very difficlut to get in place (I tried about 5 times over a period of 2 years); and second, they wouldn't stay in place. However, I am also curious as to whether or not other women have that same problem. If I could get them to work, they seem like a great idea. Do you think they are as safe as a male condom?
Thanks,
Lady Atria

If the gentleman is wearing a condom as well, doesn't that defeat the purpose?  Why bother with the female condom at that point?

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but then what i don't know about female condoms ...

A knockout young lady decided she wanted to get rich quick. So she proceeded to find herself a rich 73 year old man, planning to screw him to death on their wedding night. The courtship and wedding went off without any problem, in spite of the half-century age difference.

On the first night of her honeymoon, she got undressed, and waited for him to come out of the bathroom to come to bed. When he emerged, however, he had nothing on except a rubber to cover a 12 inch erection, and was carrying a pair of earplugs and noseplugs.

Fearing her plan had gone amiss, she asked, "What are those for?"

The elderly gentleman replied, "There are just two things I can't stand - the sound of a woman screaming and the smell of burning rubber."

Cheers!

Part of the condom comes out of the vagina -- it looks different.  The lady I was with put lube / anti - everything /... in the condom.  She said she felt very comfortable that it was at least as safe as a regular condom.  She also said that she had to learn to put it in correctly.  She was a "small" woman, but seemed to have no problem putting it in.   It is big and long -  a porn star (male) couldn't push out the end or shove it inside if it is inserted correctly.

It is easy for the guy to enter.  The sex not really distinguishable from BB.  I am very big and there were no problems.  Shifting positions during lovemaking did not cause problems.   There was no "barrier" feeling:  it did not feel like you were bumping up against a diaphram.  She said she had a more natural sensation than with condoms.  We checked once or twice to insure the thing was not slipping out.  There was no problem.  The condom came out easily after we were done.  

She said it doesn't work for Greek.   Howeve, the female condom might actually make it easier for ladies who provide that service:  You can put a condom on a guy who is already hard and wet.  Further, if there is an "accident" during Greek, there is a good chance of going back into the lady's condom that is already in place.

It isn't on the regular condom shelf in the drug store -- check the "ladies" section.  

WIth any luck, it may sweep the country (assuming it is as safe as a regular condom).  Perhaps it will even become a catagory on the TER form (Suggestion Thirsty???).  Should we be purchasing stock??  ... Harry

I think the following facts are true.  Who has more information that my 2 cents?

Who will be the unpaid research assistant?  To the Internet everyone!!!

I've heard of 'double bagging' for anal, and that's also a bad idea. latex will slide against skin pretty well - latex tends to stick to latex, increasing friction and actually improving the odds for breaking one or both condoms.
More is not necessarily better.

agreed ... we need Google researchers, but until then please allow us to pontificate willy-nilly ...


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REALITY female condoms have been around for awhile.. distributed by The Female Health Company Chicago, Il, and London, UK

Takes a little learning, just as it takes some learning to correctly use a male condom.

I know a lady that doesn't utilize the inner ring when she uses the female condom.

It's made of polyurethane, and I always carried them on dates.  They're great to have along, especially for that guy with extra girth or length.

If you know your vagina, you can insert a female condom.  The key to their use is to remember to lubricate the inside of them.

They protect as well or better than the male version as they cover more area outside the vagina.

If you can get over the plastic baggie look. I love 'em.  A bit more pricey, but especially nice in a threesome, no needing to switch covers for every act!

Thanks to Jenni SanDiego for making me HIP on their use!!  She reigns supreme in MANY areas of providing.  Give her a call when you're in San Diego!

Elise [email protected]

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I'd heard so much about them, both pro & con, that I decided to experiment with them last year.  

Selected a gal I'd been with many different times to be my 'research assistant' as I thought this would enable the most realistic comparison.  One definite downside for those who are DATY fans or like extended foreplay, is that it takes longer for the female condom to be inserted than it does for a raincoat to be slipped on thus it could lessen the mood a little momentarily.  Looks kinda funky too, but that's not a major thing unless you make it one.  As to the feel, it's well...a little different--can't really say it's better or worse, just different.  But certainly doesn't make it feel as if nothing was being used...no more sensitivity, etc etc.

The bottom line is that there weren't any real advantages as far as I was concerned, & my assistant felt the same.  I certainly don't regret having tried them, but I saw no reason to use them again.

him wearing one lol I will pass on the female condom for now..

Mel

thanks for clearing that up.

A lady located in some city claims to be using them for her most special guys, supposedly.  The nto so funny thing is not a single one of them has ever seen her put it in or noticed when asked about the obvious, the noticeable protrusion of the female condom even after oral and it is supposedly inserted.

IMO there is no way a guy wouldn't see it or notice it, unless he was going on blind trust.  Those I spoke with I encouraged to run to the local health center.

Just call me WhiteWolf.  Felt like BB to me.  Then again, I have alwayss used lots of lube.  

I'm not sure how we could match each other for "winky" sensitivity, but I expect we have close to the same # of nerves.  I guess it's always true that YMMV...Harry

You're assuming that female condoms are latex. They are not.
Female comdoms are made from polyurethane, which is a type of plastic and does not grip latex like another piece of latex would.

LS, "Oh dad, you are going to have to learn to use the computer for yourself"  (HS becomes a Food Critic)

~~female condoms are made with polyurethane

~~more coverage with the female condom as it basically "hangs out"

(One of my super duper well endowed dates grabbed the wrapper out of the trash and wrote down the name!! **BLUSH**)

Elise [email protected]

Thanks for the Kudos Elise, although I do love them myself, I disagree and would never suggest that you wouldn't have to switch out for a threesome.  It would be like asking two guys to use the same condom with one woman......ewwwwwwww!  They actually do provide more protection and at the same time more fluid feeling, it seems that some gents have a hard time overcoming the different look that they have.  Those who don't mind that part have voiced their pleasure immensely.  It's one of those things I call Paradigm Paralysis.....

Definitely a case of YMMV Harry.  It's really not that much different than guys chosing their favorite male condom...some will swear by one brand/type, & others by something else.  Anyway, glad you found they worked so great in your case.  Maybe your search for the perfect condom is over!  

In my mind I figured if two women were using two separate female condoms a guy could dip, dip, dip, into one girl, pull out, (leaving the female condom IN that female) and then dip, dip, dip into the next girl with her female condom .. two female condoms, two girls, one guy?

But if you say NO GO, I will definitely bow to you.. YOU are the most marvelous best of all women of women!!!!

Elise [email protected]

nuttin' like a little visual aide to lubricate the discussion

Here is the quote:

Epidemiologic studies that are conducted in real-life settings, where one partner is infected with HIV and the other partner is not, demonstrate conclusively that the consistent use of latex condoms provides a high degree of protection.

Here is the link to the study: http://www.niaid.nih.gov/newsroom/releases/haitihiv.htm

Here is a quote from the study:

The investigators observed a seroconversion rate of 1.0 per 100 person years for couples who always used a condom, and 6.8 per 100 person years for couples who used condoms irregularly or not at all. The seroconversion rates were similar between couples who never used condoms and those who used them irregularly, underscoring the importance of consistent, correct condom use. The female-to-male rate of HIV transmission was 7.6 per 100 person years; the rate of male-to-female transmission was 4.8 per 100 person years.

Is a reduction from 6.8 infections per 100 person years to 1.0 infections per 100 person years really a "high degree of protection"?

It is still a bad idea to use both.  It will give you no extra protection, and incresses the chance of breakage.  At least, this is what I remember reading, though I do not remember where.  


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

HA HA!  I so prefer two guys, I didn't think of it!  LMAO!  Oh do excuse my overlooking that scenario Elise.  Did I detect a subliminal message there Elise?

Hi Lana,

The statement on the condom is "...laboratory tests on this material have shown that organisms even as small as sperm and viruses like HIV cannot pass through it".  I would expect this has been verified in the lab (it isn't too difficult to do this test).  Probably, these condoms will break less than regular condoms, but that is only my opinion.

You said the CDC hasn't "concluded any studies right now on ployurethane condoms and the prevention of AIDS or other STD's".  That does not mean they are less safe:  it means that the CDC studies are not complete.  Each of us has to go from our gut.  Mine says the female versions are safer.  Your conclusions may vary, but I really believe you would be safer using them.

In any case.  Thanks for contributing to the fray. ... Harry

... I'm over any paralysis

...especially if I switch from the mild sauce to the hot sauce.  Thank you for making my day!

DAMN.... sometimes I WISH I was dating again!!!

Back to the grind!

Elise [email protected]

I'm laughing so hard I think I just spit on my monitor, and I'm late going back to work from lunch...

I kinda hope they fire me.... oh WHAT would I do to make money????

Like HOW would I make the WEEK's CHECK in three HOURS??

Off to sit in that STANK chair in that NO AIR CIRCULATING room with all of those LOVELY (NOT) people.  OK, The people aren't that bad... Running out the door.

DIP DIP DIP  NEVER NEVER triple dip a chip!!  Oh the germs Harry!

Elise [email protected]

... Sometimes guys get a little frisky and try risky behavior.   That is why ladies have to be careful & set boundaries & standards.  Even as a child, I was into BB Pony rides.  

God's truth, I only double dip when I am in the company of men (watching a sports event).  Since reading your note, I vow that, when I am with "ladies" I will confine my double and triple dipping to the more socially acceptable and (f**king wonderful) scenarios suggested in your memo.  

Since I have been to your web site, I must tell you that my self-control could break during the process and I might not be able to stick to the "dip dip dip" (switch to the next lady) "dip dip dip" ... protocol.  Would it bother you if, sometime during the process, I was "dipping" with you and suddenly got all hot, started breathing hard, and went "dip dip dip ..."?

Enquiring minds want to know...Harry

Consider an ABM system designed to protect Washington, D.C. that is 85% effective.

If the enemy has no warheads aimed at the city the system is unnecessary and a waste of money.

If the enemy has one warhead aimed at the city the system provides a "high degree of protection" because there is only a 15% chance that the warhead can strike the city.

If the enemy has twenty warheads aimed at the city the system is almost worthless because there is a 96% chance that at least one warhead can strike the city.