Have not been to a bar to pick up a girl in over 20 years.  If I want to get laid, just pick up the phone.

I have been going to strip clubs for the scenery and just to relax.  Don't expect to pick up anything there, so I am never disappointed in that regard.  Strip clubs are dying out on their own.  Dancers don't dance or display talent like they used to.  Now clubs are 95% empty vs 95% full as they were years ago.  Most in the Boston area have closed already.

Bars:  never really went to them with the intent of picking someone up, too expensive anyway.  Besides, picking up chicks was never my strong suit, just not good at it.  At my age, I would never approach a 20-something in a bar nowadays.  Hell, even the 30- & 40-somethings would probably tell me to take a hike.  If they only knew I have hidden talent in my mouth.

Strip clubs:  same, except I have gone a few times to visit with a stripper friend I met thru a local escort forum and became friends with

Social gathering:  not sure what you mean by this.

Like has been said, if I want to get fucked and sucked, I either send an email, a text, or call someone, problem solved.

Lou

and I can sort of see your point.

It's like going to the supermarket and buying meat rather than going out into the forest with a rifle and shooting it.

I myself was never much of a hunter, but I can see how some guys will take all the BS with a civie to get that thrill.

From my perspective: since I am getting older, I don't go out to bars and other social gatherings to meet girls as often as I do to booty hunt. Since its already so convenient, all I have to do is make a phone call. I don't have to get ready with the boys, drink more than I wanted, spend more than I need, waste hours, save my dignity from rejections, save the embarrassment of meeting young girls that reject my old ass, and everything in between.

These days, I still go to the bar, but its for a casual drink and chit chat. Even if a lady approaches me or I approach her, all she wants is my money. If I do approach a young girl, she calls me grandpa and I have to be her sugar dady. If a mature women in her 30s, all she wants is me taking care of her kids and paying off her mortgage. Am I getting that old now where girls just don't want to hook up anymore and forget the next day? I use to be able to hook-up so easy when I was younger, I just don't know whats going on anymore. Am I forced into this hobby to get convenient booty? Is this what my life has become?

The hobby itself is fun, there is no strings attached. My question is, has this hobby restricted your social gatherings for hunting for booty out in public? I mean, its just so damn convenient, there's always a new batch of young girls out there that loves to call me daddy and tell me to spank them--I don't get that in real life. Anyways, Just curious.

The hobby supplanted that years ago.  Welcome to the club..if your are ready!

I know exactly what you saying...

I still go out and have a good time.... and heck... I still even hit the strip clubs with the guys. I just don't piss away my money anymore on the chasing. It's been a year or two since I hit the VIP room and blew a grand or two on a stripper. Heck... I think I've only bought one lap dance this year out of several visits with the guys.

It's different now since I started hobbying more.... instead of running around and playing the games ... I now have a better time. That goes with the civvies also. Yeah... I actually have more civvie friends now then I did when I was running around trying to get into the panties of anything semi-good looking.

I certainly have a different attitude nowadays. I'm looking at civvies in a different light .... like wondering if they could even come close to rocking my world without any hassles like some of the great Vegas Ladies I see. More often then not... the answer is hell no so I just kind of laugh... and think about the next provider I'm going to book.

I now look at strip clubs as open additions.

Tons of strippers are just providers in the making. It is incredibly rewarding to help them make the leap from teasers to pleasers.

When their first experience is a good one, not made from desperation, or done alone with a BP ad waiting for that first stranger, it ends up with a great experience for me.

I shit you not! I get more real interaction, more affection, more mutual enjoyment than I get from many providers. It's very close to a FWB situation. Except the women are young 20's, model material, and have just enough insecurity with something to prove as to want to rock your world.

I fucking LOVE IT!

It's nothing more than a special Sugar Daddy type relationship. After the break-through session, for the same rate cost of moderate cost provider hour ($200-$350), I get a full night of dinner, shooting pool, dancing, clubbing, lots of laughs & make-out seesions with a hot piece of arm candy half my age. At the end of the night lots of laughs, and then lots of no-clock #$@*#!

The best part? Since, so many dancers are bi, we sometimes scope out and bag another hottie for a manage a trois. We're talking no fee on number 3.

The only problem I run into, is I have to be prepared and keep my wits about me because safety is rarely mentioned. If I was a bareback rider (which I'm not), I'd be in nirvana

I'm their friend, confidante, fuck buddy, mentor and sugar daddy (on the cheap!).

It's amazing. I just might write a book.

But not till I've had my fill.


HalfHour

and just how did she rope you in THREE different times. You know fool me once,shame on you..........???

When I'm in any civvie situation (most recently a hotel bar) I look around and can't find a single woman I'd even consider fucking.

After a couple of recent bad experiences (including girls having me travel for hours only to flake on appointments and younger girls stealing my phone, wallet, cash and practically everything in my pockets), I think the hobby's been a wakeup call. I might quit it altogether unless TER lets me post what I need to about a particular provider here who made me travel for hours on three separate occasions, only to have me wait at her parking lot..

That being said, now that I'm giving up the hobby (and intentionally paying girls 5x what they quote me for no reason other than to have them disrespect me more and take me for granted, e.g., putting $1,000 cash on the table in front of them when they ask for $200)... I'm going to have a lot of money freed up to take care of myself. I'm thinking I'll now set aside about $30k for plastic/reconstructive surgery. I've already had a phalloplasty/enlargement procedure 2 years ago which was very successful w a certain doctor in Beverly Hills (can't post his name here, dont want to get flagged for advertising, but lets just say I was a very small guy before, but Magnums are a bit too tight for my girth now). However most girls wont know (or care to know about that) due to other outward/apparent problems with me, so I might as well invest this $30k in stuff like facial reconstruction, etc. I'm already pretty ripped (6-pack, etc.), but that doesnt go quite well w my ugly face, so I might as well get the latter fixed. I also own a few $5k+ outfits from some big designer names (mostly suits), which I get complimented on, so that part's good.

So yeah, this kind of answers the inverse of your question. Now that I'm out of the hobby (it seems), I'm going to up my social game and invest more in my appearance. Wish me luck.

Don't let anyone fool you, strippers are all about the money, it does not matter how old, fat, or ugly you are, as long as  you have good hygiene, they will be all are over as long as you give them money. There is the "thrill of the hunt" in finding a young, tight stripper that will do more than just lap dance in the dark corner, especially when they have an unexpected expense come up or the rent is due, as none of the girls know how to put money away for these kinds of things. Now the bad situation at a strip club is that it may take time, unless you have a waitress that knows the girls and you tip her well, as she will make sure you get what you want, not to mention, strippers are the definition of YMMV, as apposed to providers who set their "fees" for "services", who should not be YMMV, but that is another discussion.  So you need to have at least some "game" to you and money and you will be fine to go to the strip club.

I never went to strip clubs to get laid. If it happened, I didn't complain, but mostly I went just to hang out with naked chicks who acted like nymphos so they could take me to the edge and keep me there for hours. I guess some men find that frustrating. It gives me pleasure. A kind that's different from going straight to a predictable finish line.

I turned to mongering only after moving to an area where the clubs are full of fuglies trying to sell quickie handjobs. Not really my bag. I figured if that's game here, I might as well play it for real. It still love the clubs I visit when I get a chance while traveling.

Seriously, when I've got a few days strung together in a great hobbying venue, I'm so obsessed with getting my top choices lined up that I skip everything from meals to work-outs.  I'll even bag out of minimally important conferences, if it means setting up the appointment.  Truly obsessive-compulsive in its extent.

You walk out of a strip club with a bulge in your pants.  You go see a provider with a bulge in your wallet and you walk out with a smile on your face.  Enough said!

It means I still have a membership here, so I'm free to post about past experiences I had while I was in the hobby (it still benefits people just the same as if I were still partaking). Posting here does not entail hobbying.. they are separate acts, dude.

First, you seem to have had a run of poor choices in the ladies you saw.  One of the things I have always liked about the ladies I have met is they are good people (when I do my homework).  I wonder what your selection criteria were?

You say, "Now that I'm out of the hobby (it seems)"--which leads me to think you would prefer not to be.  I may well be wrong, but if you return I do hope you reconsider how you decide whom to see.

You seem to focus on your size, your ad, your suits, and being OVERLY generous with the ladies.  None of those are bad by themselves, but what I have noticed humor, cleanliness, respect are valued more by most the ladies.

I do wish you luck in whatever you decide to do.

Couldnt help myself, it came to pass (e)