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lovemaking 1891 reads
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I'm using an aliases because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.  I've been looking at a provider that I wanted to see.  A TER member told me she was cute and thin/lean body.  I decided to call her and make an appointment.  WHen I emailed her she was very transparent and told me that she was fit, but not thin/skinny.  I decided to go away.  When I showed up she was not that cute and she had some baby fat on her.  I was NOT attracted but decided to  go through with it anyway.  I'm a good looking guy and I thought I was above her norm.  We got into the bed room and she started to kiss me and her breathe was Nasty.  So I stop kissing....she started to suck my cock which was nice....however, I was not into it.  We fucked and I shot my load in he mouth, but I was grossed out the WHOLE time.  WHy did I stay....I think I felt bad for her.  She was $400 (not cheap).  I learned my lesson.  I might not hobby again because  was so grossed out!  How did the other TER member give her high ratings....she was not hot, she had too much baby fat, and her breathe was NASTY!!!!  You could not have paid me to taste her pussy and I read that most of the guys did.  To top if off...she is kinda well known in los angeles.  Guys or girls.,.....have you had a similar experince before?  If so, what happened.  I was grossed OUT all weekend.  It really fucked with my head.  WHy did I pay for that....I could go out and score a much hotter chick than that for a 10 dollar drink.......WOW...

I'm a good looking guy and above her norm
and
I felt bad for her
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You could not have paid me
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I could go out and score a much hotter chick
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If all is true, why are you seeing escorts in the first place?

Also, seeing as you stayed and paid the lady for just a blow job, I don't think her feelings are that hurt. Clearly other guys like her.

Kisses,
Vanica

Your implication seems to be that you have to be an unattractive guy that can't get laid by attractive women to patronize escorts.

He made the implication that he is a man who can land hot women whenever he wants for $10 or whatever a cocktail costs. He used this as one of the reasons to why he was so unhappy with this lady. He felt he wasted his time and money on her.

I made the point to bring to light there must be something more to this story. Much more, in fact.

I know from experience that being unattractive is probably the last reason why a guy would seek out an escort.

Kisses,
Vanica

Perhaps it was the specific words of his you quoted, but it didn't quite convey that.  I have no reason to doubt your explanation, though.  Thanks for replying and clearing it up (and for the PM).

knowsfromexperience370 reads

I feel that I have some insight into this phenomenon, after much observation...an older and very wise escort friend once told me that the girls who make the most money in this business, long-term, are those who are extremely friendly/personable, and slightly unattractive. Why the "slightly unattractive"? Well, another escort Natalia (author of "The Price" and a former $2000/hr escort in NYC) commented something to the effect that men are intimidated by perfection...they prefer to be admired. In another part of the book, she asserts that, by conventional opinion and her own, she was far from the 9's and 10's she rated in appearance...yet, her agency owner set her up on first dates with men who he knew would rate higher than most (possibly bc they were loyal to the agency?)...and the the reviewers who followed didn't want to admit that they had gotten anything less. LOL.

I also know, from personal experience, that girls who do more...who provide unusual, rare, and highly-sought-after services (no, I'm not talking about greek) tend to rate higher in general amongst a certain subset of reviewers...the client will rate her very highly as sort of a quid pro quo...again, that's among only a very small subset of reviewers and IMO very corrupt.

Ancedotally, I have an escort friend who is in her mid-twenties and a dead ringer for J. Lo. Everywhere she goes, she turns heads...men approach her in the airport, the supermarket, on the street...as well as in clubs. She's the most beautiful person I have known, physically. But reviewers rate her 8-9 (even a 6 once when she was working w/an agency...she was the onlu one available, but the guy wanted a Caucasian girl)...where in any civvie's book, she's easily a 10...I think she (as do I) attracts reviewers who are more honest with their feedback...the type who are NOT inclined to give inflated scores, just because they like the girl. They will rate in an honest, ethical manner...because they feel that they owe that to the hobbyist community. But yet, she is compared to the inflated scores, and men assume, that, like those other girls, she is also 10 years older and 20 pounds heavier than she portrays herself...it's a shame.

And finally, I know of two girls who have harassed men who gave them sub-par (but honest) scores...have threathened to blacklist, out them, etc if the reviews (8-8 in one case, 4-6 in the other) were not adjusted or taken down...

All reasons for score inflation.

I have not seen a single girl who, upon meeting her, was even "slightly unattractive."  Most are heavily reviewed girls in the  8-10 range and almost every one of them "went the extra mile."  There is no way you can get good reviews no matter how good looking you are if you don't back it up with performance.  After all, that's why the reviews scores are in two categories.

I've seen quite a few gals here and I echo your comments.  I do my homework, back channel when appropriate, and READ the reviews to make sure (as much as possible) that I am going to meet the lady I believe as represented by her ads.

However, there have been a few ladies that I saw that I would comment might not have been that 8 or 9 (or 10's) that another reviewer(s) rated.  But I well understand that each of us has our own criteria for what we seek, and I have learned over the year or so not to deviate from that type of lady that most interests me...hence no disappointments.

knowsfromexperience185 reads

For the most part, though, I stand by it (of course there are many exceptions, as I mentioned in one of my examples). I have both seen and been offered inflated scores myself by reviewers (and agency owners) for certain things, and have known escorts who not only complied but encouraged girls to do so as well. Also met my share of pricey 9's and 10's who made me think "WTF!" And yes, I've met some others who were truly gorgeous...but not as many as I'd been led to expect from pics and numbers.

Then again, I AM a girl, so maybe my criteria is different. LOL.

Also, inicky, I wasn't talking about performance scores being inflated...just appearance. Quite the opposite...I meant that high performance can translate to higher appearance scores. Low performance can have an adverse effect on both numbers. Speaking personally, I think the thing that is holding me back most in this business...I don't schmooze enough...don't kiss ass enough. This is a service industry after all...looks aren't everything.

And the two are NOT the same...in many, many cases.

Your example of your J-Lo friend just goes to prove that occurence.  And by that, if the reviewers on TER would rate a gal as how would she really appear in the "real" world..and be truthful with those scores...I would think that in many cases those appearance scores would go DOWN by a point..or two or perhaps even three (or more?).

The ladies in this biz are a cross section of the general population..and as such represent that "bell-shaped curve" of women.  To generalize on TER that so many gals are "model material" is, in many cases a stretch at best.  Many of the guys have learned (some the hard way) to understand this scoring method and realize that the gal who is an average 8...is probably a lady that would not necessarily turn any heads at the grocery store (even if she is made up as she is in a session).

And you are absolutely correct in seeing this differently than a guy...as you say you are not.  Hence, you can't really understand what a guy is really looking for, any more than we can understand what a lady might find attractive.

knowsfromexperience134 reads

But I think we'll have to agree to disagree that for some odd instances, that rule of thumb is turned on its head.  I'm commenting on the dynamics of appearance inflation (which certainly exists) in general...that it's strongly  tied to personality/performance and therefore not universaly applied. But that's just MO, andthe caveat is, as always, that I'm a girl...what do I know (completely valid point) :)

There is NO question, that at least for me, a ladies appearance is definitely tied to how she treats me as well (and that goes to the chemistry issue).  And in the real world that is also commonly seen, as the mystique of a "beauty" is defined by each individual.  I am always amazed when somebody will comment on how "beautiful" somebody is (and I don't know that person, but I don't see that outer beauty as they are seeing the entire package), but they see that person as a complete person.  And assuming I get to know that person, I may also see them in a much different light.

But here, well if I only review a lady after only knowing her for an hour or two, that "inner beauty" is a tad more difficult to achieve.  Although, many ladies have an incredible ability to shine almost immediately.

And that "I'm a girl...what do I know"...well, you will see somebody (assuming a lady that we both are looking at) in a way that I really couldn't see, and conversely you can't see that same gal as I see her.  Heck, that's what makes the whole world go around.

I find alot of these rating scores are ridiculous and I went for an sp and find out its crap and I wrote a review just to have mods reject it because it was way off on the other reviewers scores

This can happen and not be the other reviewers fault. I once had a visiting gal with decent reviews, so I scheduled an appointment. When we were undressed and close she had a real bad body odor and I could just about complete and daty was definitely not on the cards. I did not review her as she was otherwise as described. Well a year later she was again visiting and on a bad night to find other ladies I decided to try her again. Well this time she was just perfect and we had a great time. I proceeded to see her again several times and never once a repeat of the first problem. So the other reviewers had been correct I just hit her on a bad night the first time.

Or did you just rely on another's opinion.

An old adage applies:

Buy in haste, suffer at leisure.

Maybe the hobby is not for you.

lovemaking217 reads

I did look at the photos.  They looked good.  If I sent all of you the link, I bet you all would say...wow...she's hot.   Maybe you are right, the hobby might not be for me becuase I'm way too picky when it comes to women.  However, I don't want to date and listen to women bitch about drama and thier bullshit.  I would really just take care of myself with PORN on the internet.,  it's cheaper  :  ;)

pimpfortheday188 reads

If she was too fat, you should have simply left. Why pay for something that you can pick up in a bar for free?

You could have also sent her to the bathroom for a mouthwash since you decided to stay or plucked a few mints into her mouth.

What a waste of money.

 

Hey man,

I feel ya!  I did that a few weeks ago when I TOFTT and it SUCKED!  She was WAY fatter than what I thought, pussy STUNK, but she was a nice person and had some hard times, so I just felt sorry for her. I was NERVOUS / REGRETTED it the whole time afterwards, but we have probably all been there at one time or another, just move on, chalk it up to experience, and don't look back bro!

hotplants222 reads

So wait:

You want Twiggy. But, when she was “transparent” and told she was not thin/skinny, you decided to see her anyway.

When you got here she was “just not that cute” (you do know this is totally subjective, right?)

She had bad breath. OK fair enough. But, I’m guessing her breath is a non issue when she’s sucking your cock. But….oh dear….when she sucked your cock you were “just not into it”. Then again, obviously her BJ was not bad enough to prevent you from ‘shooting your load in her mouth’. Bravo!

And…ok…just an intermission for editorial comment: if I had to choose between bad breath and some guy ‘shooting his load in my mouth’…well….ok…maybe my opinion is moot.

“You could not have been paid to taste her pussy?” Were I you, I would not worry.

And….budumpbump…you didn’t leave because 'you felt bad  for her'. How gallant.

Sorry to hear this fucked with your head all weekend. But hey….good news is, apparently, you can score a much hotter chick for the price of a 10$ drink.

Which does beg the question:

Why WERE you there being grossed out the WHOLE time?

WOW, indeed…lol….

pimpfortheday189 reads

She probably had cellulite and enough rolls to make goodyear jealous.

hotplants. You don't expect her to be honest over the phone and say she's flabby do you? She lied and took a chance and came out the winner.

hotplants177 reads

he took a chance seeing someone he already KNEW was probably not his cup-o-tea. If he wanted to be all alpha-he-man about this---and wanted to have ANY legitimate gripe about what happened, when he confirmed that she was "just not that cute"....or....."had cellulite and enough rolls to make goodyear jealous..."

He could have made a perfectly acceptable, polite exit. And then, he could have gone to the closest bar and proved his own theory that he can get a hotter chick for the price of a drink.

INSTEAD, he stuck around, got a BJ, shot his wad. And now, he is  whining on a public board about how much he didn't like the experience.

WTF are you? his cheerleader?

pimpfortheday135 reads

No I am not his cheerleader.
He was at fault for not throwing her a Delta Airways barf bag and running in the opposite direction.

WTF are you? Skanks-R-Us spokeswoman?

hotplants163 reads

Then, he sticks around for the BJ anyway
Then, he cries foul afterwards as if he has no culpability in this situation

Then....I call bullshit.

Then, you swoop in to his defense by speculating that “SHE” was probably being dishonest and….. had “cellulite and enough rolls to make goodyear jealous.”

Was that necessary? Is it even relevant? Did it make you feel better to deflect his bad choice to a speculation that, surely, she must be obese and she is at fault for being dishonest in her presentation?

And, assuming that is even true, how is it relevant? No one forced him to go see her. No one forced him stay.



I've seen my share of reviews of guys just wanting someone to make them cum instead of them doing it themselves and it ends up looking bad on the girl because well she grossed him out one way or the other. If he was disgusted by her basically he should've left instead of being lazy. Spending 250, 300, 400 just to end it the end trash talk when he should've simply TURNED AROUND.

RealityChecks192 reads

Somebody made him do it! Some big bad dude was standing there holding a gun to his head the whole time :)

MadonnaLily163 reads

It has been my wonder for years as well. And I think over 80% of the chance you are talking about the exact one I'm thinking about.

There is one explaination: Maybe all the guys feel bad for her and rate her high because of her dedication to the job. She earned your "sympathy" by that too, didn't she? It does sound like she tried to make you happy. Not all the guys are good looking as you. And majority of the guys like to be treated like a king.

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