There are a lot of providers who don’t even give you an option for 30 minutes. They have 60 as the minimum, some have 90 as the minimum option.

But I have recently tried getting 30 minute appointments with two escorts who advertise on Tryst that they offer 30 minutes, only to make them irritated and not responsive.

Escort # 1 I have seen before. I texted her I’d like to see her again. She enthusiastically responded, Great! What date and time? I responded, I show on Tryst you offer 30 minutes, I’d like to go with this option.

Crickets. She didn’t respond.

A couple of days went by and she still didn’t respond.

I suggested I could see her for 60 minutes and all of a sudden she’s responding to my texts again! Without even acknowledging that she had gotten my other texts or giving me a reason she didn’t respond to them!

Escort # 2 is touring. I saw her on Tryst and sent a request to see her for 30 minutes, which she offers as an option on Tryst.

She responded by sending an email that seemed she was irritated that I would suggest only seeing her for 30 minutes. She said it wouldn’t be long enough to get to know me and have the best experience that she offers.

She said unless she got a couple of more bookings she would cancel her plans to tour my city, as one 30-minute booking didn’t pay her flight and hotel expenses.

Which begs the question — Why advertise on Tryst you will offer 30 minute sessions if you don’t want to do that?

My appointments  are 100% outcall to me ,so I never ask for a half an hour.Too short for me and not worth it for the provider to travel to me.
Well , maybe the providers  who advertise  that need to elaborate  more, and be specific regarding  the circumstance in which they can accommodate  such dates.

And any attempt to explain it would be purely speculation unless it came from a provider.  I would only say that maybe it sounds like an ego thing, from your post.  Are they established ladies (TER reviewed), or just starting out?  My ATF offered 30 min sessions for 250, and I only partook every so often, but I made sure to bring enough for the hour (400) just in case I felt the urge to go again (she was just that hot), but that was only after seeing her several times for the hour, which by today's standards was insanely reasonable.  

the second lady's excuse is 30 minutes is not enough time "to get to know her", but you know the first lady, and she can't use that excuse, so she just ghosts you.  

 
In marketing, this technique is called a "loss-leader" and it's a form of bait and switch.  Many retailers, car dealerships and construction companies use it.  They advertise something that is an obvious bargain compared to the competition, and the idea is that you will respond, or come into their establishment to check it out and see if it's for real.  Once they have you in, they will desperately try to upsell you for more money, even if they have to now disparage the item they originally used to lure you in.  ("Are you sure you will be happy with a car without a heater . . . . ?", or "for a little more, you can have solid oak beams holding up your roof rather than particleboard.")   If they can't upsell you, they could care less if you walk out without buying because they don't make anything on the bargain item.  It's often below cost, so they actually lose money if they sell one and break even in a manner of speaking if they don't.  When you encounter this situation, stick to your guns and demand they give you the price advertised.  If they don't, this type of sharp business practice can be reported to the FTC or if it's a big outfit, gather the attention of a class-action lawyer.  

 
In the context of escorting, the only thing better than telling your story here as you have done is to name them on this board.   The best way to stop scamming and misrepresentation among escorts is to out them when they pull shit like this.

A "loss leader" is something sold below the seller's actual cost in order to lure the customer into the business in order to buy MORE products that the business offers.  For example, last week a supermarket was advertising Yoplait yogurt for a ridiculously low price of 18¢ for a 6 oz, carton rather than the usual price of 69¢.  The supermarket was willing to lose money on the Yoplait in order to get the customers into their market where they would inevitably buy other groceries they needed.

 
What the provider did in this case is "false advertising."  Her advertising is deceptive because she deliberately misleads customers into believing she offers 30 minute sessions when she really has no intention of offering that service.

 
A "loss leader" is NOT a form of "bait-and-switch."  Loss leaders are actually available for purchase.  In bait-and-switch situations, the consumer is "baited" by an advertisement for a low-priced product.  When the customer is lured in, he is told that the product has already been sold or is no longer available.  Then the customer is pressured to "switch" to a higher-priced product.

I really miss that “moonfruit” agency active in Orange County in the mid 2010s -  many were drop dead gorgeous local girls and they honored their 250 for 30 min w same passion and zest as 400 for 1h. That was probably the golden era out here atleast (hobbying over the last 15y)  well it’s long over now never to return I guess.  

But yes 30m usually gives you a “rushed” experience- because of time, but also because of poor and changed attitude compared to if you book 1h or more

I guess the therapy was not successful.  I have seen it done in various industries and that is the terminology they used, so I stand by my post.  You are free to disagree on the terminology, but you are describing the same concept, i.e., a willingness to take a hit on the rate/price in order to get customers coming in.  You like to mince words when you are actually agreeing in general with my post.   I know an owner of a music store that does it with piano prices.  It IS bait and switch, and he will tell you if you ask.  He gets the customers in and then upsells them to a nicer model. Now, why not get a life that doesn't include me, you troll-stalker?  I knew your absence the last weekend was too good to be true.  Your yogurt example is merely the simplest form of the concept, not the ONLY form.  BTW, since when do you eat yogurt instead of chocolate pies?  

Her handler could be sorting out the many requests and is going where the gal gets more $$$ for the visit.
If she's busy, of course the 30 min appts will be relegated to the bottom.

If you want to see her, you need to make yourself appear to be someone who isn't "cheap"

Just my 2 cents

"False advertising"  oh jeeez

Guess what..... she doesn't CARE
Are you gonna call the BBB on her?

Quit being so high and fricking mighty, "little Pipi"

She's gonna go where she makes the most $$$ for the limited number of hours each day.  If it's a really slow day (or IF she's in the mood), then the 30 min cheapos MIGHT get a return text/call/email.

You must be a hoot at gatherings....counting your part of the bill....down to the pennies.....while stiffing the wait staff on tips.

you to pay for 60 and leave in 30.

Did I call you any names?  All I did was to point out that you know nothing about marketing, but you're so thin-skinned that you had to reply with personal attacks rather than simply defend your post.

 
I guess the therapy was not successful.

 
You also know don't know the meaning of "mince words."  I did not "mince words" in my post.

and not just because it was him.  Lol     Is the opposite of "high and mighty" low and wimpy?   Apparently, he is an expert on yogurt that is less than a dollar.  

that is not an accurate description?  Factual information is not name-calling.

This is pretty straight forward. If she has a steady stream of requests the longer appointments will get priority. 30 min appointments while they seem like a bargain to mongers are low profit to providers. Anyone business minded can appreciate that decision.  
  If she is good enough to see multiple times why would you not schedule the hour?  
  Just my 2 cents....

Insideinfo!
I assume you got yours from being an insider?
No need to help out with these clowns.  I can handle them as everyone else on the board laughs at them!

You in DC too?

This is correct. No escorts engage in being loss leaders ie operating at a loss. Loss leaders not only operate at a loss to grab a user base, they are able to operate at a loss because investors believe in them enough.  

 
I actually wanted to bring it up in the recession thread. Wishful thinking is that some escorts would operate at a loss to at least build a loyal client base.

Wow, you're actually condoning false advertising.

So, does everyone think that people who go for 30mins are "cheapos"?

 
To me, it's pretty clear. If you don't do service X or dont do Y minutes.... wait for it.... don't put it on your menu!

 
It's like people who put everything they ever heard of on their resume and straight up lying. I always found it every satisfying catching them at an interview and them trying to weasel out of it. In a field that is a precise science, it's quite amusing to watch people attempt answering basic questions about what they are supposedly proficient in and watching them stumble like a drunk on his payday.

 
But I digress. Condoning false advertisement is pretty disgusting, tbh.

I said in "marketing" the concept is called a loss-leader.  In retailing, it ALSO means you are selling it below the product cost.  In other industries, it merely means you are selling it substantially below the normal price, so the "loss" comes in a loss of the usual margin you make.  Obviously in a service industry, there is no product cost, but a loss can still be realized if you do not cover all of the costs involved in delivering the service.  Funny how you and BigP seem to be on the same page a lot.  He doesn't know much from experience, only from looking up dictionary definitions of things, which are sometimes limited in their perspective.  Don't tell me you are going that way, too.  Lol

I personal don't mind 15 & 30 minute sessions as long as the Clients use the entire 30 minutes and not try to haggle the price down to a "CRACK WHORE" price.

Let's get the big caveat out of the way: I've never offered 30 minute dates. (My own time minimum is 90 minutes, and pre-hiatus it was 2 hours.) But, I've spent over a decade playing with pricing structures in both this and a vanilla time for services business, and talked pricing rationale with dozens of other companions over the years. My take is it's one (or more) of the following reasons:

1) It's a marketing technique. One poster claimed a loss leader. I'd say this is more a decoy method. Most companions have a preferred date length and usually structure their rates to nudge you toward this before you even reach out. For example, I start at 90 minutes, but structure my rates to make 3 hours more appealing. I've used this pricing approach for a decade, so I know it works well. However, it only continues to work with a return client if you can back it up by providing a high value experience at that date length AND you've hit the right target market, so that your client values the same things you offer in your experience.

2) 30 minutes is almost strictly a date of opportunity. It's something akin to an "add on," just with a different client. If you're already planning to be gussied up and have a hotel/travel booked that day for someone, adding on a 2nd client for 30 minutes could be a potential way to make extra with little additional effort/$. But, I can't think of anyone's rates who would take the time and product to get ready (and potentially pay for a hotel/travel) for a stand alone 30 minute date. (This is also, btw, why a 30 minute offer is not a loss leader.)

3) 30 minutes may be a YMMV offer. Every companion I know refers to some of their clients as "easy" to be with. What qualifies as easy varies from companion to companion, but the ultimate meaning is the same: we want to feel good with, and about, the people we spend time with. And we definately don't want to pull out our hair (or pull out your short hairs) after every interaction. For example, I won't do a second 1.5 hour date with someone who's going to make every effort to drag out another half hour. I'll simply tell him that 2 hours is clearly a better fit for him, and that's the minimum he can see me at. I can think of at least a half dozen qualifications someone would need to meet for most ladies to say yes to a publicly offered half hour date option.

I don't really understand the claim you're making. Uber is a loss leader, for example. Uber sells a service, not dissimilar to escorts. Uber operates and has always operated at a profit loss but is alive because of its valuation and investors interest.  

 
"Obviously in a service industry, there is no product cost,"

Huh? In service industries, product is a service.

 
Saying you're selling 30 minutes services but in fact are NOT selling 30 minute services is exactly false advertising, and you can get sued for it in consumer protected industries. It has nothing to do with being a loss leader. It's the same thing as when a provider advertises Greek, and a Greek lover shows up and she says oops no Greek sorry. And it's perfectly reasonable for a customer to be upset at such false advertising.

and tell me what investors and valuation have to do with provider pussy?    You sure like to change the subject to something you know a little bit about, but it's not the context of what the OP was discussing.  There is always a distinction between products and services when it comes to the way you book the costs because a big part of the underlying cost in services is direct labor.  Reselling a product has a fixed cost denominated in "units," and manufacturing costs and indirect labor have already been figured into the unit price.  The retailer doesn't care about the minutia, he just pays so much per unit and resells it higher unless he using a loss-leader strategy.    If you want to discuss this intelligently and in depth, how about going to business school, major in marketing, and learn more about it first?  Your example fails, the success of Uber does not depend upon "services" provided by an individual driver, which the company cannot control completely, but the success of an escort does, because she can control every aspect of her service.  

 
Where was Greek mentioned in the OP?  The OP was about time, 30 versus 60 minutes.  If a provider offers Greek in a sixty minute session and not in a 30 minutes session, and you didn't clarify that before you showed up, that's on you, not her.  There is often an abbreviated menu in a 30-minute session because there simply is not enough time to do everything they do in a sixty-minute session in 30 minutes, although that's what many of the whiners expect.  It's not remotely reasonable.

I have read the op.

It seems you're the one who is unable to grasp the concept.

 
Every business sells a product. Every fucking business does. In case of service industry, the product they're selling is a service. A product is sold by the seller and bought by a consumer.  

 
You claimed that the strategy in op is "loss leader". And it isn't. False claims of selling X as part of product where the seller has no intention to sell X is defined as false advertisement, not "loss leader".
And the seller can be taken to court for it. And it is considered fraud. You attempting to normalize it are hilairous. Maybe you should get an MBA yourself first and maybe learn a thing or two about false advertisement.  

 
Uber was an example of a loss leader I gave you because they operate at a profit loss. They DO NOT practice false advertisement.

 
You seem to unable to understand my Greek point. Wow. The point was that if you out something on the menu, it is expected that you do it. If you put 30 mins on your session and don't do it, that is false advertisement. If you put Greek on your menu and then don't do it, that is also false advertisement. End of story.

 
You attempting to normalize false advertisement as "loss leader" is asinine. Stop it.

http://drdianehamilton.com/loss-leaders-and-the-old-bait-and-switch/#:~:text=The%20use%20of%20loss%20leaders,of%20mouth%20about%20shady%20practices

 
"How does a loss leader differ from what people refer to as the “old bait and switch”?  First of all, the old bait and switch is considered fraud.  “Customers are “baited” by advertising for a product or service at a low price; then customers discover that the advertised good is not available and are “switched” to a costlier product.”  This is considered false advertising"

 
"The use of loss leaders is a smart marketing move because it gives customers what they want at a lower price and allows companies to make more money on any additional items purchased.  The old bait and switch is illegal and causes a loss of business in the end through word of mouth about shady practices.    "

 

Guess which one is provider sayings she's doing 30min sessions but they magically are unavailable?

Just move on if they don't want to provide the 30 minute timeframe which they advertise.

It's not worth the mental anguish that it appears to be causing you.