If a gent books, say 2 hours and he's 30 minutes late, his appointment time still ends 2 hours after his original start time, does it not? And I give him back 30 minutes worth of donation? Is this something I need to put in the considerations section of my website (which hardly anyone ever reads apparently), or is this common practice?  

If a hooker is late and the john pays for the entire time, she adds that time or discounts his rate commensurate with the time.

ROGM and I are sooooooo disappointed in you!  LMAO!

If I booked a 2:00 - 4:00, and then found that I couldn't make it to your incall until 2:30, I'd contact you and let you know. Say by email. Three responses I'd expect:

if he gave you advance notice of his being late....

Extend your trip and spread out your appointments. If you are in that high of demand in a particular area, extend your trip and have further time between your appointments. One 2 hr visit will pay for your room for that day and possibly the next. The rest you recoup that day or the next is essentially yours, minus meals, travel expenses, incidentals, etc. Then, the two hour dude won't be bumped, and could possibly turn into a longer engagement, or a free meal, which cuts more of your expenses, but puts more money in your pocket if 1) he extended his orig 2 hour date that he was already late for and 2) he will have a great time with you and buys you a meal, and will be more likely to glow and review and refer you. That gives you more guys seeking you for 2 hrs and increases your security of getting great appts in that area in the future. Have to consider the cause and effect of it all. Scrambling from one 2 hr appt to apease a 1 hr appt sounds crazy. If you like your business that way, and the breaks that you already have scheduled, then law down the law, cancel the tardy guy, set up rules, refund donations (crazy), and worry about the next guy. But for every guy you piss off, there may be less willing to see you later.

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First let me say that I hate tardiness because it can mess up your schedule...but there are some things that we can not avoid and I know there are times when I have had to be late.

... and I arrive at 2:30, I get to see the remainder of the play.  I still pay full price; I don't get a refund for the time I missed.  The cast doesn't repeat the first 30 minutes of the play for me.

What's CUSTOMARY is that you clearly let me know what you want and whatever solution you offer reflects how you feel you might be rewarded by repeat business. If I really disagree with your decision, I might cancel.  

I didn't buy a ticket and there's no theater full of people who got there on time and are expecting the curtain to go up.  So long as you've communicated with her in advance, the options of the other posters are fine.  Shit happens on both sides and reasonable slack needs to be cut.
And, yes, your last sentence is correct.

But if he's late and I could have booked someone who was on time, he paid only for 90 minutes, but I could have gotten paid for a full two hours, guess who doesn't get a return hooker next time a few people want the same time (which always happens). The guy who isn't guaranteed to arrive on time and pay the full rate.

I thought that was basically what I said. But I'm only responding to the OP from the POV of what I'd expect to happen if I had to let someone know I'm going to be late. The 3 responses would all be on my mind as ways a provider, or anyone, might respond.

As a client I would take the 30 minute loss. She may have another client scheduled right after me so I would respect her time.

The guy might be calling from work mid-morning, not enough time for her to book someone else, probably, so he has the choice of being late, eating the difference, or quitting his job. So, whatever happens, it's not likely he'll quit his job, even though it means this lady will not allow him to book the next time.

The three times this has happened not with the last date of the evening, they called 10-15 minutes before 4:30 (my 1st appt slot of the day) blaming traffic. This is Atlanta. Atlantans do not get to blame traffic unless it's bad weather, lol. Being stuck in traffic is not a legitimate excuse for being late in this city.

so you don't cause your next gent any issues and deduct the 30 mins cost from the late john. That's just smart business, imo.

The analogy holds in that a contract, with offer and acceptance, is in place in both cases. Both sides are expected to uphold their end of the agreement. If one side is unable to do so, the terms can be changed if both parties agree.

MHB's are certainly allowed to use the "H" word. and we all know what a MHB you are. lol

I too am not a big fan of "lateness" but in some markets it sometimes just cannot be helped. In many cities if the hooker/john has to travel more than just a few miles a simple traffic accident on the freeway can turn a 20 minute cushion into being late by 20 minutes. Shit happens.

I try never to be late, but sometimes it can't be helped, and I think most guys will agree that when scheduling an outcall 30 minutes late is almost early for many women. lol

I think the OP's manner of handling it is seems to be a fair one, my only other advice would be if this seems to be happening often, she might try making a bigger window in between dates.

I never said the idea behind your post was wrong, just that you picked a lousy analogy to hang it on.  And, yes, it's still a lousy analogy, your retort not withstanding.
Now be a good scout and stop whining or we'll dock one of your merit badges.

a lady when you show up?  "Before we start I must tell you that I consider this a strictly business transaction that is governed by Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) regulations, do we have a contract that you accept then?"

If you have an hour window between clients, and the first runs 30 minutes late, why not extend his time by 15 minutes or so, still giving yourself 45 minutes to "get fresh" for your next date, but still giving your two hour client almost 90% of the time he would have gotten if he had been on time? This way instead feeling like he got "gipped" on his time, he should come away feeling like he got something extra.

Remember, this is a service business, and getting bitchy with your clients, even if they deserve it, is not the way to build a thriving business.

Its up to the girl to decide if she wants to be generous or need to cut the appt short,  in most cases she's cool with it so I've been lucky that I have seen girls who have a bit more schedule flexibility.  

Who feels because he is late the hooker has to kiss his ass if she wants him to return.  

There are women in this business who if the appointment was from 2-4 would collect for two hours, the moment he walked in the door no less, and his ass would be out the door no later than 3:59 no matter if he showed up at 2:01 or 3:45.

As with most things in life there is always a balance, and balance can usually be found if both parties are reasonable people, of course assuming both parties are reasonable is quite a stretch I know.

and yes, "demanding" his full two hours without any regard to the ladies schedule or the "next guy" is being a jerk, and rewarding a guy for being a jerk is akin to rewarding a hooker for being BSC.

It's my normal Friday night thing. I rush out of work at 3 to check in and get ready for a 2-hr 4:30 appt. then I get ready for another 2-hr+ at 7:30. And then I go to sleep and have another 2-hr at 9 in the morning. And that's it for the week unless a regular wants to see me another day or I get a dinner date request. I hardly ever get 1-hr requests because the 2-hr doesn't cost that much more, which is how I like it.

I'm simply trying to have a civil discussion on the topic of the thread.  

is an independent provider or works through a scheduling agency. When a lady works for an agency she is on the agencies time. That is why it is important for the customer to know whose time his appointment is on.

You hurt his wittle feelings. lmao

He-cunts are such sensitive creatures.

But as with other P2P interactions, there's more to it than just the business aspect. At least that's the case for me. I don't doubt others will disagree.

The only hang up I have is. The gentleman has already committed to a specific time. Therefore it is the clients responsibility to be on time. However the client shouldn't pay for the time isn't there.  

Every guy here is a business professional, that isn't something he can turn-off once he leaves the office.

He contracted for a specific time frame for companionship. If he is late, she is not obligated to extend his time and should not have to answer as to why or take less than the agreed upon fee. She shouldn't have to say "I have another client", "I have a doctor appointment", I'm getting my nails done" or "My BF doesn't know I do this and he is coming over to fuck my brains out".

I'm the stupidest poster on the board and I can tell time, even after the sun goes down.

All of Mr.Powells posts here arguing this argument are spot on. Not quite sure what you're smoking today.

If a man is booking 3,4,5 hours I appreciate it enough to schedule in a way that allows me to pretty much say fuck the clock.  

I'm sure I can swing 45 minutes. Especially since most gents are in the parking lot at the appt time, not knocking on the door at the appt time.

Those who debate here...debate. It has nothing to do with sensitivity I'm afraid. You called me this yesterday too for whatever reason and I giggled. Id be happy to refer you to the dictionary for the definition, but I don't think we really need to go there. (Yes I'm giving you props here). I'll say it again...some of us have a passion and drive inside us, don't mistake it for anything else than what that is. And don't label it other things either. Not my fault your a lil bland at times.

These ladies are performers, plain and simple.  You think when you show up they really are just dying to have sex with our fat sweaty asses?  You think they are really our girlfriends.  TER even grades on "performance".   You are paying her to perform, notwithstanding you're not holding a ticket.  It's even possible you are waiting in line to get in, although the queue is not that evident or obvious.  She starts the preformance with make-up and getting her head in the game to fuck our lousy asses and make it sem like we are gods gift to women.   Not a perfoRmance you say.   As a long time veteran of the performing arts myself, I hold emphatically that what these ladies do, is indeed a performance, even though it is an audience of one.

I have a fucking clue! I don't understand the mentality of the johns that think women in the profession are a piece of meat. All the ladies that will fuck a stranger (old, fat, smelly and ugly) for money should be respected for what they do and treated no less respectful with their time than your mechanic, attorney, accountant (not really sure this one is relevant) or doctor. BTW, show up 30 minutes late in front of a judge and see where that gets you!

People run late in life. Sure, the girl can stick to some "verbal contract" and jam it up the guy's (i.e. customers) ass in an illegal activity I suppose, but how does that help the girl?

And I ended up repeating them many times cuz the girls made me feel she's flexible,  low volume,  unrushed, and not sucking a dozen other cocks all day. In fact the girls are the ones who are usually running very very late. Sometimes it pisses me off but sometimes good things do come after waiting.  

That is very good of you, but I don't know if cutting the fee should be the rule. Would you want to be that fair the second or third time it happened? I guess if you let him know that you're making an exception for him, he'd get the right idea.

...because you "understand," "know he's a nice guy," and/or, "but wouldn't do it for everyone."

But perhaps your lofty intellect was unable to remember back that far in the thread.  That does it, Bobby!  I have revoked your Merit Badges for Knot-Tying and Campfire Building.  Please remove them from your sash and mail them back to National Headquarters.
Your next assignment is to earn Merit Badges for Sense of Humor and Removing Pole From Ass.  

As to the rest of your post, it has so little to do with my comments on this thread I'm left speechless.  And that is hard to do.
Now return to your regularly-scheduled babblings.

Actually, the only smoke around here is emanating from your keyboard.  Some also seems to be coming out of your ears, my little rump roast.

And, yes, I'm well aware it's a performance.  Still, I believe his analogy is far from perfect, though if he'd made his own case as well as you did I'd probably have just let it go.  I would also hope you wouldn't have gotten your panties in a bunch the way Bobby did.

Your fourth sentence is unintelligible.  The next one is just hilarious.  You seldom repeat with the same lady? Who else would you repeat with? A different one?
Admit it.  English is your second language.  Or maybe your third?

NOBODY forces these gals to fuck old, fat, smelly and ugly johns. They CHOOSE too so stop with that nonsense.  And many of these gals are making a helluva lot more money per hour than any judge, that's for sure.  

The best way to train a person to always be late, is to make sure the person suffers no consequences for being late.

lol! Yeah, "Oh, you wanted to make me cum? I already did honey, sorry"

It has been a while since someone was late a half hour and for those few that were over the years, I am not cognizant of that being a serial lateness type scenario.  

A 2 hour customer is or should be considered a good customer.  I agree he should accept the loss as it's his fault he can not be there for the time he booked.  I understand that you have gone to lengths to have time to refresh mind & body and I commend you for it.  Under these circumstances, with a good customer, I think you should gently say you have "somewhere to be" and hope you could extend a few minutes past the 2 hour point.  He will love you for it...  and probably you have clients run over 10-15 pretty often.  So in actuality, you are only giving what you might have done anyway.  
You will be a little rushed in your refresh time.  But you have treated a premium clint with kindness which he will likely repay.  
HV

My panties generally stay unbunched unless I have a special request from my provider.  Not buying the bad contracts essay answer though.

stalks me, sedates me and ties me to her bed.  I have nightmares about this, so thanks for reminding me

but every once in a while you can coax a relevant and helpful comment out of me. lol

and you are right, you most certainly should not feel obligated to give any of the donation back in this scenario. Hey, he might even give you a tip for the extra time if he's a good guy.

Just remember, being late doesn't make someone a bad person, it's how he/she deals with it when it happens.

Ok, that was my last helpful post of the day, I need to go find a troll to whack. After all, I do have a reputation to uphold you know))

N O T. G O N N A. H A P P E N.......

Agreed. Well said.  

Your refusal is already well-known (and still quite a relief!) but you know well I'd never, ever see you either.  Along with virtually every other male who reads this board.
You are some slick, little marketer aren't you, my little lunch meat?

Oh, yeah for sure if he's got me for a dinner date, he's the only one I'm seeing that day. I usually spend the night even OTC if I've seen him before (but, I am actually sleeping).

Oh, but two of them are have come back to see me several times and have never been late again; they genuinely are nice guys. The one guy that kinda bitched at me was a selfish lover anyway, so it was no skin off my back that he never contacted me again. lol

Not a who from the Dr. Seuss children's books

As for the rest, I'll be happy to put it to a vote.  Any guy (besides Tiddy) who finds your board posting attractive and wants to date you, please step up and say so.
Beuhler???  Beuhler?????

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I like my version of a 'Who' better. So there. Blah. Anyway, what's going on with you?

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... read the posts you're going to refer to before posting your reply.  And read for comprehension... don't just skim over posts, thinking about your next insult or lame joke that has nothing to do with the thread.  Then you'd realize, for example, that I didn't say your initial response was off topic.  

nitrates, fillers, and other things that are just not good to digest. Oh wait, is that why you called Taylor that?

Please eat your pablum and go to bed. But not before you send your Merit Badges back. But be sure to keep your Major Douchebag Merit Badge.  You've really earned that one.  In spades.

Did you really just send me an email calling me a trick. lol What does trick really mean anyway?  
I prefer to be called a "women's treat".

Gag me with a spoon.

you have another appt after when he calls to say he's late?

for a 90 min appt.

have a point, as far as the posting that is. I thought I was just being kind of cute and funny but I can see it's all in my own lil imagination as notta one person gets it here LOL. Oh well, I guess I'll have to admit you are right. And yes, I guess the joke is on me then. Awww shucks, you can't win'em all, now can you? But I did try, so do I get an 'A' for effort at least? Thank you Nick for setting me straight. You seem to enjoy that job immensely.

If the appointment is set for 2:00, and the client arrives at 1:50, he sits behind the wheel in his parked car then walks real slowly to arrive at the door not at 1:58, not at 1:59, but at 2:00 on the dot.

And ALL our time is valuable - including mine.
I've been 10 or 15 minutes late before - but the longer date delays of 30 minutes or an hour or longer have been due to ladies.  While it can be frustrating, I've handled with grace I think - why start a date with a bad vibe?  Now if I was running really late, I would feel bad as hell, and wouldn't necessarily expect to be able to keep the same date length - but I'd also greatly appreciate if the lady reciprocated with the same understanding that I've shown others.  If she insisted on full pay for a lesser time?  I honestly don't know how I'd react to that.  But I do know that this would be a bad start to the date and would really decrease my chances of enjoying it.  And I can guarantee you that I wouldn't repeat with her.  Having said all that, this is hypothetical to me, because I've never been that late.  I think it's about both parties showing EQUAL respect for each other - in all ways.  I'm no better than any lady I meet with, but also, her time is no more valuable than mine.

Ladies can be late too.
Also, the prudent thing for both parties is to accept realities of life and build this into their hobby model.
Ladies should learn to roll with the occasionally late guy, as long as he is respectful, and guys should not take cancellations personally and apply the "move on" adage without a second thought.  If neither party can handle the aforementioned scenarios without major stress, then it's probably time to reassess one's approach to things.

Rush to get ready for the next appointment. So I'd have less time to get ready, but it happens sometimes. Instead of having an hour to leisurely prepare for the next appointment, I would have a half hour. So I'd just take a quick shower, quick cleanup, and makeup and hair touch up....but usually it's not a problem because I'm pretty low volume....but basically yeah, more time to rest in between is preferable, but you don't always have that luxury.

The problem is, we do.
Do you enjoy running into walls head first?  Seems like the answer must be "yes."

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Not sure if you saw my post. When they called about the traffic going to make them late, I suggested we have a 90min instead since I had another appointment.

I don't have an email address from you. I gave you my email address since you can't PM me.

So sorry I thought you were someone else. Good to hear from you.

from my point of view, to worry and argue about 30 minutes of time is just not worth the trouble.  Most of us has spent a significant amount of money in this hobby, so to haggle over 30 minutes of time is just nuts.  If the lady is nice enough to accommodate you as above mentioned--great!  But if not, live and learn and plan more time next time.

Damn cat videos… they've really got a hooold on meeeee. (love em)

Tell the the truth and SHAME the devil!!!

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