I saw a provider onetime in a city I was visiting this summer.  I had a great time and told her I would like to see her again the next time I was in town in early October.  We exchanged a couple of emails (jokes but no commitments)early on but I hadn't talked to her in a couple of months.  Well my plans changed so I never went.  I didn't think to call her because again no firm commitment and I hadn't talked to her in two months.

So she calls me today to ask me why I didn't call her while I was in town.  Talked to her for a bit to catch up but I am thinking what't the deal? this woman had 5 pages of great reviews. sp Why call a one timer to find out why he didn't show.
If she really wanted to stay in contact, why wait two months?

All a long way to ask if things are that slow out there? Economy hasn't really picked back up so I guess money is tight.
Lord knows, I don't have as much to spend

you heard me, F. E. H.  feh!   --- reference anyone? Lime?  

truth is, there are about 3 or 4 girls who call me out of the blue when they're not sufficiently "liquid" ... it's not always a function of bad economic times however ... sometimes their fortunes have their own ebb and flow (due to personal crises, etc)

there is one girl who is clearly not just in financial dire straits but actually BORED stiff when she calls me (or so it seems) ... cuz she actually wants to go out to dinner and a movie and whatnot (off the clock, of course) ... but heck i don't mind because she's very easy on the eyes and more importantly a cut above the rest (especially upstairs ... no not her rack, higher ... higher ... yes there!  ABOVE the neck, is what i mean)

not a bad situation for a single guy to be in really ... but i pity the married guy who finds himself in a similar situation (getting unsolicited calls that is)

Feh= traditional Jewish retort when non-plussed

I DID get an unsolicited call- thank god not when my SO was around but it was Freaky!

The e-mails from ladies drumming up business are scary too, even tho the SO does not go over my private e-mails

Serves me right for not letting the ladies know to leave me alone, but I never thought I would be contacted...

Or should I go to session with the ring on and spell out that I am not up for calls/e-mails?

Fed the ego... until I remembered that it just good sales to keep up with clients

You think I'm some kind of shmuck!  Feh!!!  Everybody knows that FEH is the Food Engineering Handbook you use in Hydrology course of the Freshman Engineering  Honors section .  After you study hard and do well, you get a good job with Bechtel, travel the world and Fuck EuroAsian Honeys.  Eventually you tire of the good life, so you settle down, study Oriental Philosophy and Find Eastern Harmony.  

BTW, if there are lovely ladies longing to talk, meet,  fool around, and find true romance  (off the clock) all I can say is "you poor things".  PM me for my cell phone.  To understand my personal committment to you, go to my favorate poet and give a read and listen to "I'm Your Man".


Harry

I have had some first hand observation of the power of the cold call. It has shown me that although web-sites with pictures, bio's, faq pages etc are great modern marketing tools for the new millenium provider there is the opportunity to seriously increase business with some old fashioned phone skills. My subject of observation has shown me also where even the less than enthusiastic recipients of her calls can be turned around(manipulated)and an appointment made before the call ends.

   Orthodx; I don't know why your provider waited two months to call either. If she followed the example of the lady I refer to above you would probably have been a repeat client already. (whether she is local to you or not).

  I guess what I'm alluding to here is there is a reason why telemarketing is BIG business. Whether a hobbyist likes being cold called by a provider or not the fact is a gal with phone skills can drum up as much(or more) business as the most informative or entertaining of web-sites.

I seriously doubt any provider would let you listen in while they call a client for business -- unless she's your SO.

There were a few ladies that would call me actually and once I asked them why are you calling ME of all people? She finally admitted she was calling ALl the guys and that business was slow.

Sorry, but I think it's plain wrong, not to mention RUDE!

If a lady is truly a great marketer and beautiful with a nice site etc then she shouldn't need to cold call her clients.

The best ladies I know wouldn't dream of doing this.

I think it's tacky and sorry, but I hold it against any lady who would do so (no pun intended!)and would never see her again.

Since she was in one of those higher end agencies, I suspect that her business was not doing as well as she expected.

those ladies who leach and extort appts by instilling fear in clients out of their own poor busniess management are a sad excuse for passing as a provider

When a Man provides a woman his info it is for that date only not later when she gets broke cause sh eblew it on crank or her BF! It is not to be used at a later date without his express or implied consent!

Those lowlife 'hookers' make the rest look like street walkers.  The untimely calls and unintentional emails to a newbies home family shared email addy are lower than panhandling and far more damaging.  Does Kmart sit outside your house with the blue light wailing?

If she can't figure out those she is really allowed to contact and has to put others lives at risk she should get a 9-5 and let the professionals do what they know how to do best, rookies need to learn spamming aint cool and won't be tolerated-you men nmeed to tell them swiftly and bluntly

I also think clients send out mixed signals.  It's difficult for me to believe that ladies just do this out of the clear blue without the client having said it was ok or implying that she could.  I've been told many times that I could "call anytime".  Well I wouldn't do that but why say something like that at all if it wasn't meant to be sincere?

who turned out to be a pathological liar and in complete denial about herself. She made up all kinds of bizarre stories about herself to either provoke sympathy or make me think that she was highly desired by all. It was really sad and I felt sorry for her. When not working, she was always alone. Her business was mediocre at best primarily due to aging and weight problems. To drum up business, she would call up former clients or send e-mails.

I just received a call for a Heather Lynn at my work and have never given out my work number. She siad she was paged to this number and the seh does massage. I almost asked her if it was sensual massage, but thought twich and didn't.

HMMMM.

Well, we have actually TWO different areas of discussion going on.
The first is the mainstream provider accessible by the contact info on her website and TER profile, etc. Out of the thousands of providers, you'll see hundreds of variations in how they conduct themselves and their businesses. You'll find common ground protocol, and variations of 'bending' it. There are things that might be OK if one lady does it, but seem 'wrong' if another lady does it just based on personalities and variables.
For example, I don't have an incall location. But, I know of a lady who has an incall location, and the type of relationships she has with a few of her clients allows her to feel comfortable in calling them up to see what they're doing and invite them over for dinner and to hang out. It may/may not but DOES sometimes turn into an 'appointment', but that wasn't necessarily the objective. That's an example of one that would work for her but not for me. At least not presently. I don't see anything wrong with that and it seems to work just fine for both parties.
I think sometimes it is not a matter so much of what is right or wrong but what is different. Just as ladies who are providers full time and this is their only source of income are going to do things differently than those who are part time. That just makes sense.
Freedomrider is saying exactly the truth, which I do know, and yes, he does see how she conducts her business. She is his ATF, and I can say nothing more.
Then you have ladies who are, but not always, underground, no websites, etc. but do things the word-of-mouth way. Many of these ladies are real high roller, high dollar performers connected to various industries such as movie or modeling industries. This IS THE NORM for that type of business. These ladies are hell-bent on keeping an annual income of $200k-300k and push the ticket all day long. While it is a world of difference from me, I don't necessarily find it wrong; in fact, I find some things about it quite admirable. Why? Because I don't think I could do it. But, then, I don't think I could ever be high volume either.

Now, for ME to solicit a client would be wrong. It's not my style, it's not the way I want to relate to my clients, and I want them to be comfortable in knowing that. I DO keep in touch with most of my clients, simply because I care about them, and send one-liner emails or PM's frequently just about general stuff.
BEING chosen by the man IS the huge turn on for me. When you get the email, call, or PM and the rush that you get is so exciting. What fun is it for me to go and 'chase' after it??

In Orthodx's post, the description of the conversation, no matter what type of business she has or conducts is FLAT OUT WRONG. It's whiney, it's invasive, and she's laying guilt! Wow. Completely unprofessional - I'd stear clear all the way. The why-didn't-you-call-me thing is a big bad no-no. Isn't that the beauty of going to see providers in the first place? To escape all that BS that you might have in relationships outside the Game? You certainly don't want to see those things IN the Game!
Clearly a case of a lady who didn't receive proper Provider 'upbringing'! LOL

the client having given her permission to do so in advance.  The problems that this may create for the client at work or home can easily be imagined.  This type of behavior is one of the reasons many hobbyists are so difficult about providing screening information to providers.

My personal experience over the years has been that fortunately most providers do not resort to this type of marketing.  Of the ladies that I gave permission to contact me most had the opinion that it was inappropriate to contact me and that I had their number and knew how to find them.  A few ATF's did sometimes call.  Several ladies without any permission or confusing signals on my part have called me a few years after I had last seen them or gave my name and phone number to another provider and I received a call(s) from that person.  I believe the ladies that called without permission and in many cases left messages on either my home or work answering machines were only interested in trying to drum up more business and could care less whether those messages might create problems at home or work for me.  Fortunately for me it has not created any major problems.

I don't know how Freedom Rider's ATF is handling her telemarketing with former clients but hope she is very careful and discreet.  Unfortunately if her indiscretion causes the wrong client to lose his job or causes him to get divorced he might rightfully blame her indiscretion in part for his woes and decide to seek retribution.