and got to thinking after our conversation...
Why are some so nice to the ladies and why are others so nasty/mean? I have heard this here and there for a few years now, concerning the most undesirable johns being so harsh and judgmental on reviews. Now I am not going to take all the hookers' sides... but somewhere in there there is some truth at least. Do woman haters frequent this and why the hell would they? To me, it only makes you look weak to hate and then do this. So how many women/men have been on dates with haters of the opposite sex where you knew that was the case? How did you know? I hope noone tells me they still called for a next visit! If you knew someone was a hater or gave you a shit review (very shitty), would you see them again? Damn, if I was a hooker and you gave me a 5 for experience..... I am not seeing you broke down ass. Fuck that. But I do get some need money.... or some johns can't get laid and their worst experience will have to do.This board really ain't for 15 yr olds. 
but sometimes the dick is broke ha ha. That's why I stick with gals who can get me up and going.
Fuuuuck I wish that I was young. My junk would work when I want it toooooooooooo!
Please don't tell my employer I am a dumb ass that thinks with the little head.... he may not like it much (or he might and then I'd have to wonder)..... oh wait, that is my stupid butt. Well fuck, I need to complain about the hours then.
There are a lot of sickos in this game. This just happened the other day, My ATF emailed me about a guy she'd just seen. She's great, infamous actually, and really went out of her way with him. Then he told her she's ugly. Ugliest hooker he's ever seen. OK, I've been with her more than a few times and she's pretty, hot and sexual electricity vibrates off her. So it's clearly not the truth. So why did he say it?
Well, I told her when she emailed me all hurt, the guy's an obvious misogynist who hates the women who allow him to fuck them for money. It validates his misogyny. Then he can call them vile names. Sadly, this business attracts sickos like this. They can only truly hurt someone if they care what he say.
And, yes, you are right. They are very, very weak. They can only feel strong by doing what they do. The only thing that can be done with them is what my friend has done. She's very well connected and has let everyone in our area know about him. This fuck will find it very hard to get laid from now on.
And this has nothing to do with a review. He said it to her face. Her very pretty face.
You are very kind to be there for her. That's a vulnerable time for a woman and to do that -- well, it's the lowest part of mean-ness. You're right about him and you said all the right things to reassure her.
I feel very lucky that 99% of my appts. are with men who clearly love women. When I think about the two appts. I had with guys who obviously had issues, the thing that I did wrong was ignore my instincts, just for a moment, when I really should have stopped and not proceeded with the appt. The first one was one of my first appointments. It started out well and he brought me flowers but when I put them in water I noticed my hands were shaking. I chalked it up to newbie nerves but now I wonder if on some level I knew this guy was bad news. He didn't hurt me but it was not a fun appointment and after - it turned out he was a man of the cloth -- he gave me a sermon on how what I was doing was wrong and in a "kind" way tried to make me feel very ashamed of myself. Why I didn't tell him where to go, I don't know. I guess I was just so surprised. He seemed to know the right buttons (I mean, the wrong ones) to push and as I said, that's just a vulnerable time for women. But in time I was able to say: yeah, he had issues; nothing to do with me. But it still made me cry, after. Dumb, I know, but my feelings were hurt.
The second time was with a repeat client so I did not see it coming until I got there. He was drinking a glass of wine and then he went off on a rant about his ex-wife. So I was listening but something inside me said uh-oh. He was really mad. I should have left. That was my mistake, thinking it would be okay. Everything was usual until at one point just out of the blue he kind of swatted me and pulled my hair really really hard. Not in a sexy way, in a mean way. I was so stunned I didn't speak but I teared up. I know he knows he hurt me, my hand just flew up to my scalp. I thought maybe it was an accident but when I looked at him, he just looked furious, and he didn't say he was sorry or anything or really acknowledge it at all. It was a little thing maybe but it shook me up because I think he wanted to hurt someone and I was just handy. It was almost over anyway and then I couldn't get out of there fast enough.
I think every provider has one of these appts. sooner or later and they are learning experiences that's for sure. But you're right -- it's about that person (luckily very isolated incidents), not the woman.
I responded to his posts but it went into random moderation. Happening a lot tonight. Maybe everyone in Holland is in a coma. When it finally emerges from moderation, if ever, you'll see my response.
Here's my post that's still in moderation!
There are a lot of sickos in this game. This just happened the other day, My ATF emailed me about a guy she'd just seen. She's great, infamous actually, and really went out of her way with him. Then he told her she's ugly. Ugliest hooker he's ever seen. OK, I've been with her more than a few times and she's pretty, hot and sexual electricity vibrates off her. So it's clearly not the truth. So why did he say it?
Well, I told her when she emailed me all hurt, the guy's an obvious misogynist who hates the women who allow him to fuck them for money. It validates his misogyny. Then he can call them vile names. Sadly, this business attracts sickos like this. They can only truly hurt someone if they care what he say.
And, yes, you are right. They are very, very weak. They can only feel strong by doing what they do. The only thing that can be done with them is what my friend has done. She's very well connected and has let everyone in our area know about him. This fuck will find it very hard to get laid from now on.
And this has nothing to do with a review. He said it to her face. Her very pretty face.
is being done bc of recent bust. TER Gods don't MOD me please!!!!!
My ATF is a 5/6 looks (according to the asses). I have rated her a 8. Just looks. Experience is a 10 ( I have reviewed more than 40 hookers).
I kind of feel for them. It hurts to hear you are not ultra hot. If any hooker told me that, Never again. I am pretty decent.... and I won't trash a hooker. If she is real bad HELL YES. Otherwise I only review the ones I can give a 8 plus to.
Reason? They were nice to me. Sometimes not a connection. Not fair to fuck with someone's income. If piss a girl off unfairly.... and ruin her income, maybe she will do it to me with my job. Yeah I am self employed.... but ways to fuck me on my contracts. Just be fair.
I don't think the moderation was because of the recent busts. There is random moderation here all the time. That's just the way it works. And, believe me, I've inquired about it so I know.
I am all about hookers standing on themselves. No need to be afraid. Stand your ground. Personally am glad that no matter what, Never been BL for anything. If I don't like, I shut up.
I am not married (couldn't because of the traveling, she'd have to be a nut who stood on me when I am gone so much)..... but I do respect women. I found out recently that I will finally be in a certain city mainly the rest of the year. So looking for ongoing, Otherwise i got to fly my fav out. Not cheap, but will if I got to.
My momma taught me not to trash women.
I really only experienced that when I worked for agencies. I think that most truly repulsive men are actually turned off by the level of personal interaction required to book an independent - or maybe they get refused appts a lot. It's disheartening to be sure. Even if you're fairly confident and secure. Hard not to let it get to you...it tells a lot about a person, when they are mean to somebody just because they CAN be mean and get away with it. I hope she's already forgotten about it, and I hope this guy never gets a date again.
In the moment, we can try to have compassion for their misery and whatever caused it. And after the moment is done, just do whatever we can to avoid such people, and also avoid provoking them. Can't do anything to change them.
Well said. There just isn't an excuse for being deliberately mean or disrespectful.
Then spew most vile insults via back channel / private boards.
There is another hobby board that has "Men only" section and when contents of that section got "leaked" ... boy some ladies were in for rude awakening about their ATFs.
Unfortunately , there are some men in this lifestyle who hate themselves for seeing sex workers way too much.
You're right... vile is vile. No need to psychoanalyze at all. Way too many excuses in that. Benefit of the doubt is over-rated, IMHO.
I was pissed off for a day or two then I moved on.
IMHO, statements like the ones described by inicky and devin or so called revenge reviews are a sure sign that whoever is making these statements/reviews is one miserable pathetic fuck full of self hatred and self loathing.
your odoriferous shortcomings and many more elsewhere and they were posted long before his review showed up.
Honeyboo, how do I say it politely - I did not give a flying fuck about alias attacks back then and I am not about to start now.
Lala land thinking this kind of deceitful backtalk really didnt exist as I was hoping to believe after all was said and done all were pretty good decent human beings here having a lil fun...but I have this feeling you couldn't be more correct and these folks actually are lurking with truly tainted souls. Call me naive and give me any dummy award you want if this is true. I have confided in a few popular posters here after earning what human beings used to call 'trust'...but I now question if it was all just part of this game people play in this fantasy world. And if so.....and backchannel talk has been going on about me....I think I would actually be speechless and I think you couldnt be more spot on. WOW...was the wool pulled over my idiotic eyes. If youre man enough to share w an alias and a quick pm if this is true........all I could say would be thank you. It would have been another lesson in this process that you truly cant trust ANYONE anywhere....and that is a pathetic, sad sad day in my eyes.
There are lines to cross....and there are lines to cross. Even here. Last time I ckd we were all human beings, not hookers and johns....which are you......
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..Nope. You were solidly inside of reality, IMHO. Everyone is human first, with human feelings and human fallibilities. It's the ones who forget this that... become vile.
Good character isn't automatically granted to anyone, and bad character... well, I think it becomes magnified, more intense and much more dangerous in this little world of "hookers and johns" (who wrote that?).
I doubt my board persona will ever earn me an invite to the "back-channel club", so I can't report on it's existence or content. I'm pretty sure no ladies would want to actually read it, no matter how curious. Just as I'm sure I'm better off not accepting a visit to the ladies' board or any back-channel convos about me.
Don't surrender your basic humanity or your own strength of character, Taylor.
I say the same things about you in private that I do in public. That you are a BSC, old/middleaged hooker who is completely deluded about this business in general and yourself in specific, and who really should consider taking some time off from hooking and posting on this board for your own mental health.
Does that make you feel any better?
Not sure if it is "respect" for myself or her but do not care to call her a "Hooker"
Board persona for the lady that does "post" as well as "GTG's" are my best
defense of trying to find ladies that "enjoy what they do" and have a good attitude in the biz.
I do not attend GTG's but occasionally "Post" on boards.
Please read the link below for the etymology of the word "hooker!"
"Hooker" seems to be once of those weird words that can be used as a term of debasement and a term of endearment. Kind of like the N word within the African American community. It's ok if I call myself a hooker, and if other providers call me a hooker, but no one else can LMAO.
no seriously...
If Mr. Fischer answers don't worry they're an item now.
you will have better luck solving it than figuring why people do what they do? Start by answering, why hobby amongst consenting adults illegal? Come up with the real logic behind it other than same old morality and religion theory. Then, we will talk.
There are too many things in our society that doesn’t make a bit of sense and no one is able to figure out.
When necessary . Support guns ? Your a nut . Gambling ? Your not trust worthy ? Having sex ? Your not gay. Vices will never he legal . Never ever . Ever .
even prostitution is legal in most of the non muslim world. But drinking, gambling etc are already legal, and the tide seems to be turning our way where it comes to drugs and the stupid and unwinnable war against them.
A single big city mayor visit the bunny ranch ? Also how many people with certain jobs abstain b/c they are afraid of the image ? And drink yes , but then drive ? Yes things are legal . BUT ? Now other countries , take Germany they gave most and openly . And most if the population doesn't partake ? I hope you get the point I'm making .
but he was also caught smoking crack with her, and he was reelected.
In his defense, it was plain he really didn't want to smoke the crack, and he only did so because the hooker insisted, but it was pretty plain that he was no stranger to a crack pipe. lol
as for drinking and driving, that's an issue of public safety, not the morality police cracking down of vices.
The shit out of some .then we are forgiving . Bet a lot would love to do what they did but won't. Think that's the game plan . Hey b Gd.
In his defense, it was plain he really didn't want to smoke the crack, and he only did so because the hooker insisted, but it was pretty plain that he was no stranger to a crack pipe. lol
as for drinking and driving, that's an issue of public safety, not the morality police cracking down of vices.
Now thats gonna be fun!
anyone besides LR remember when David Duke (the Clansman) Eddie Edwards (the often alleged and finally convicted felon) and Buddy Roemer, (a complete idiot) ran against each other for Governor of Louisiana way back in '91, with the ultimate winner being the crook Eddie Edwards?
"The only way I will not be re-elected is if I'm found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
My kind of politician.
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I gotta go with BIB on this one, GaGa. The very definition of vice is rooted in morality judgements:
"Vice is a practice or a behavior or habit generally considered immoral, depraved, or degrading in the associated society."
And isn't the tax a means to "use your vice" against you? I think it's more about power and control. If you cannot gain power and control using one strategy (illegality/enforcement), simply change strategies (legality/taxation)?
Prohibition was never about public safety.
To be quite frank, they were the hourly clients for the most part. Very few men booking extended dates are this harsh, because they are looking for a connection, not a flawless barbie doll lacking brain function. I have found the most critical reviewers are in fact the most unattractive and insecure men. The guys who actually look good and have confidence, are easier on scoring. Then, you get the opposite...the really older clients who think any woman having at least her top teeth, is a damn 9.
Valedictorian at the Univ . Of Phoenix or runner up .
LOL, I barely made the Dean's List at my University. I also barely made the 3.0 necessary for me to get into grad school, but hey...I did it. Online, I would have been a 4.0 lol, because you can cheat I am sure. How hard can it be when you have a book and google right there during a test? The only online classes I ever took were Math related, because I fkin suck at it. For those classes, I had a tutor sit there and walk me through each and every assignment and test. The rest of that shit...I had to do on my own in a classroom with some underpaid, miserable moron who thought he was God.
I am normally a one-hour guy. And, to be honest, I'd really rather not have to pay for it. But for a whole bunch of reasons it's my best option. Still, I love the women that I meet and sometimes end up in a friendship with them. The guys whom I've come to know and respect in this game are similar in that regard.
We have all resigned our membership in the "He-man Woman Haters Club."
Yours,
Alfalfa
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I am sure no one would choose to pay for a hot chick if she gave it away, but there are men who actually despise hookers, yet still see us just to degrade us. And, I would not say spending 500 an hour is a low baller rate.
I think they hate themselves and that self loathing simply manifests itself as misogyny.
These guys hate themselves for being reduced to "paying for it", and then they hate the "dirty little whores" that debase themselves by fucking them for money.
I'll confess, I would much rather have hundreds of hot women throwing themselves at me for free, but I'll take them throwing themselves at me for money. My hedonistic impulses outweigh any issues of ego I might have. What some people seem to forget, "this is fun", a lot of fun IMO.
Oh, and London, re the $500/hr. comment, to the extent you meant me, while I have (and will) pay that much on occasion, I normally play in the $300-$400 range.
and just for the record FYATWYRIO!!!
Thanks for the clarification. I was afraid you turned gay on us.
...the self-loathers lash out at others. Classic displacement. And maybe your experience is spot on in regards to fun; if you're having fun nothing is "needy" or "try hard" - and that I believe is just much more natural and "real".
Brav fkin O!
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I read the reviews & if their is no mutual interest I will pass.
$ is not everything. I prefer a connection. After all this is my hobby too & I am pretty selective.