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Bostonguy57 48 Reviews 285 reads
posted
1 / 14

In the mid 1980's I used to troll Boston's now defunct "Combat Zone" and pick up streetwalkers.  Now, you can say what you like but this was a time when there where a hundred or more girls out doing the stroll every night and one was more beautiful than the next.  Some had hotel rooms where 20 or 30 minute encounter could be had for $100.  No GFE and CBJ was the norm back then at the dawn of the aids scare but it was still a great time.  Nowadays we search the web far and wide for the perfect woman to pay for sex. Back then all you had to do was drive around the block for a bit to see what was available.  I probably had a hundred different women over a two or three year period, even a few "ATF's" who would call my "briefcase phone" when they were going to be on their usual corner!

Obviously it's very different now.  The Combat Zone is long gone.  The street walkers are still out there but now they are pitiful looking women who never figured out how to step up their game.
I moved my search to the print media and then to the internet when the Boston Police department started setting up stings all over the downtown area. "Operation Squeeze" they called it. Anyway, You can't get laid for a hundred bucks anymore but a GFE hour in a nice hotel with a beautiful and freshly showered woman is, in my opinion, a huge upgrade form what I did twenty years ago. Although you never would have made me believe that back then!  Back then there were no reviews. If a girl was hot you let her into your car. That was it.  If she was terrible you picked up a different girl the next time.  This may be part of the reason that I'm willing to chance a gal with no reviews provided I can at least verify that she is not LE and has has been in the biz for more than a day or two...

mrfisher 115 Reviews 195 reads
posted
2 / 14

that within a 100 years all sex will be with some kind of androids or holographic representations.

I hope I don't live to see the day.

G2 149 reads
posted
3 / 14

I totally agree with your statement.  As a college student in the late '60's/early 70's, I remember how awesome rock music was with a great new band emerging almost every week.  After getting accustomed to this musical bounty, I also remember thinking it would never end.  Then it ended with a suddenness that was shocking, and we all watched as the world descended into Disco.

Yes, I've asked myself the same question about are we living in the golden age of hobbying as I look at all the beautiful women that are both local, or visitors to LA, where I live.  I think you can make a pretty good case that we are close to the peak, or maybe just past it.

I know you asked the question more from an individual standpoint than an overall "state of the hobby" standpoint, and there's no question that the women are prettier and higher quality thanks to the internet, the experiences are better and  the entire scene is safer.  Review sites like this one help the right customer find the right lady, and vice versa.  This is something that was impossible 15 years ago, and has really helped improve your bang for the buck.  Which is s a good thing because the internet has also raised prices.

You would think the increased competition resulting from more women entering the business made by these positive changes would reduce prices, but in fact, the opposite is true.  The internet has resulted in what has essentially become price fixing on a national level, something that was also unthinkable 15 years ago when it was a local hobby.  Not only do women travel extensively today, but the internet allows providers to see what others are charging, and more importantly, it allows others to see what you're charging.

And make no mistake about it, even if it's on an informal basis, any member of the escort "cartel" will hear about it if they're lowering prices too much below the accepted level.  This is one of the reasons why women that are struggling to make ends meet still won't lower prices even though economic theory says she should.

For example, I knew a lady that charged $200/hour for the first visit, and only $100/hour if you were a return visitor.  As soon as the internet started to dominate, she raised her prices to the then standard $250 and dropped the $100/hour option.  She told me she was tired of the "snotty comments" she kept getting about it from other women who thought she was "giving it away."

But as for the bigger question about could this be the golden age and could it change, these things usually move on the timeframe of other social trends.  I used to study social trends as part of my job and turning points are the hardest thing to anticipate.  You can ride a dominant trend for 10-20 years, and during that period think it will never change.  But turning points (just like when Disco replaced the golden era of rock) are the only thing that really matters in the end.  

We are 10-12 years into the internet era of hobbying, and it's very possible that the success of the hobby will be its undoing.  It could draw too much attention to itself in any number of ways- too many high profile men getting busted, too many successful escorts writing books, too much revenue going unreported to the IRS.  Or just as possible, the broad success of the hobby could finally lead to decriminalization and recognition of changing values and demographics of society.  There's really no telling- but things ALWAYS change.

So my advice is to enjoy the present era of hobbying as much as you can, because there are no guarantees about the future- ever.  Just remember that Pink Floyd and The Who led to Donna Summer  (and far worse), and hobby your butt off while you can!

ziggy440 84 Reviews 1376 reads
posted
4 / 14

I had the good fortune to live through the 70s, you know the golden age of sex. You could screw, people were open about it and open to doing it, there were no consequences that could not be cured with a shot.

And I had no clue. You only know about these things when they are over, so we were blissfully ignorant that it could not get any better, until AIDS ended that party with a bang, and not the good kind.

I have been idly wondering lately whether this might be a golden age for hobbying what with this Internet thing that allows us to find and find out about so many lovely ladies any where in the world, the profusion of ladies, traveling and local, and the whole GFE thing that, along with online reviews, should have raised the standards of performance a whole bunch. My guess is that it also has raised performance standards for clients, too, but maybe I am just flattering us guys.

Is the same true for the ladies - is it much easier to get business, do business safely in every sense and make a better life of this? Or does it really suck? I know - the ladies can be reluctant to answer these questions...

Seems to me that most of us have a limited perspective as we have not done this for too long. But I am curious to hear from those with a little longer view - over time, what has gotten better, what has gotten worse, and where do you think this whole thing is going?

Just curious,
Zig

inicky46 61 Reviews 224 reads
posted
5 / 14

I started up again a few months ago  after more than 15 years of monogamy.  In the mid '80s through early '90s it was nothing like this.  Back then, I only went wtih one streetwalker, after which I frequented 4-5  houses on Manhattan's East Side.  It was great.  If you didn't find what you wanted in one house, just walk up the block or cross the street.  On the other hand, you never knew what you were gonna get, which also was  part of the fun.  Of course, I also would sometimes call ahead and reserve a specific girl.  But there was no GFE, no LFK/DFK, no BBBJ.  Even so, with the right girl the sex was great.  Hourly prices in the mid-'80s started at $100/hr and by the mid-'90s they'd risen  to nearly $200.  All  this makes it hard to compare, but I'd say that today what you get for what you pay is even better.  Add in all the GFE benefits and I have to say this might be the Golden Age.

dantananot 12 Reviews 158 reads
posted
6 / 14

i came of age in 70s, too.  these days, to quote my late dad "i don't know what's in it (civie relationship) for you guys any more."  just started with the hobby and it's pretty cool.

my answer is, quality of life the hobby brings seems directly proportional to how much civie relationships, in general, have sunk into meaninglessness.

G2 152 reads
posted
7 / 14

I went to grad school in Boston in 1973-74 and we used save our money and go down there to the massage parlors.  Back then, the Combat Zone was like sacred ground that no politician would dare touch.  I guess times change.

As a student, I was so f'ing broke that my entertainment usually consisted of  reading the personal ads in Boston After Dark (for you kids, that's how you found action pre-internet).  I hope you're not going to tell me that's gone too, or worse yet, cleaned up.

Oh well, I guess that's what happens when you stay away for over 30 years.

Bostonguy57 48 Reviews 157 reads
posted
8 / 14

The clubs are all gone except for the Glass Slipper which moved down the street.  It's all hotels, parking garages and office buildings now...
There are still some street walkers but they are mostly scary looking.

Boston After Dark was merged with the Phoenix in the late 70's and BAD became the entertainment section.  It also became free!  I used those ads for a while too until the internet came along.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 163 reads
posted
9 / 14

They are all over!

Never understood their issue with two adults having consensual sex!

tec870 13 Reviews 148 reads
posted
10 / 14

Interesting insights all...my perspective is within the last five years being a Gen Xer.  I'm glad I finally I hit a golden age for something, as part of the decadent MTV generation, I thought most of these had passed me by.  I really enjoy the greater hobby freedoms afforded by the internet -- I hope it never ends, but alas, all Golden Ages come to an end.

cutehunkie 70 Reviews 141 reads
posted
11 / 14

It's the golden age when ..

1)  The Hobby is completely legal .. it's already legal in many parts of Europe.

2)  Better communication of Menu -  When the Hobby is Legal, ladies can easily spell out their Menu over the Phone or Internet without Fear of LE entrapment.  And you can TOFTT by asking directly "Do you french kiss, bbbj, DATY?" knowing there's no cops involved.

Heck, you can just go to a website with a picture and video of the provider, click to Pay and order .. Select Menu .. and she's in your pad in 1 hour and performs everything on the menu you bought.

3)  AIDS & STD vaccine - that's right, once the pharmaceuticals have developed an AIDS vaccine or STD vaccine ... that eliminates another fear factor.

inicky46 61 Reviews 164 reads
posted
12 / 14

Well, we agree on that one!  My only quibble is that hypocrites have been running the world since time immemorial.  Sadly, I'd say it will continue.

Funcooker69 4 Reviews 165 reads
posted
13 / 14



These are the good old days!

maverickxx69 31 Reviews 158 reads
posted
14 / 14

great question. and a lot of interesting and experienced comments. like someone in an earlier post said, hobby your butt off :)

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