There are definitely differences between the hobby and dating in real life. When selecting a provider (at least from a large city) one has a HUGE selection to choose from and only his only real limitations are budget & personal taste.
When I was a civie (long ago before being married) I remember dating many 7's and even a few 8's. Being an average younger guy in his 20's during the 80's I just did not have the options that are possible from the hobby today.
So here's my question, Is it possible to schedule a session with a provider who is TOO BEAUTIFUL? I know that sounds like asking if you could have too much money or a car that's too fast. But, I am beginning to think it may be possible.
I have a session scheduled this weekend and I am quite literally scarred to death. I have been thinking about reasons to cancel but I am equally excited that an encounter with a 10 could be the type of experience that attracted me to the hobby in the first place. To add a little background this provider also gets 8 & 9 (most 9's) on her preformance reviews as well.
I am looking forward from hearing from the vets and providers on this one. (For the haters out there keep the "you're a pussy" comments to a minimum).
Gynephobia, or if you are really afraid you will die from seeing her, caligynephobia.
Look at it this way, at least you'll go happy.
Walk over to her and plant a kiss on the cheeks first, then give a her a hug, and if she response with a hug.. rub her down there. And she might also grab you down there.
Since you're payin her, she expects you to do this.
Don't think much about it .. just do it.
First, it is extremely common for men to forget their own damned names speaking to pretty women -- especially the first time.
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6132718/Men-lose-their-minds-speaking-to-pretty-women.html)
OF COURSE you will be apprehensive about this.
DON'T WORRY. Whoever she is, she's used to it. Happens all the time. It's as common as men getting erections around her. LOL
Again, don't worry. You aren't expected to work calculus in your head.
The effect wears off after a couple of appointments.
Second, while in the civie world, extremely beautiful women can have a certain ... attitude ... to them that can make them unattractive (not always, but they can); providers are paid not to express such attitudes.
So such a date with a very beautiful providers is likely to be attitudinally fine.
Finally, the total key here is to relax and don't worry. She's a pro and she'll show you a good time.
... feel free to pay her and send her over to see me for a test.
I'll report back if she is too beautiful or not. 
When I was younger..
A lesson for the younger guys that do not know.
Many single civvy 10s are home alone on Saturday night, because they do not enjoy the club scene, and they are quiet and reserved in public. Sober guys they meet in the daytime are intimidated by their beauty, and afraid they will hear the No word if they ask them out. Miss Strikingly beautiful is often home alone at night, listening to her silent phone.
The only problem I have had with providers that are 10s, sometimes I come in 30 seconds instead of two minutes.
So ther answer to your question from my perspective, No a provider can not be too beautiful to visit, as long as she offers seconds.
I was able to date a number of civie 9-10's while in my early-mid 30's.
Yes, I DID find that many of them were eager enough to be asked out because of the phenomenon you describe.
On the other hand, I'll be honest, I found a number of attitude problems. Anytime a civie girl on the first or second date starts speaking in an entitled fashion about "what she is worth" and "what she deserves" or outright using the words "high maintenance" to describe herself ... you learn very quickly why she was available for a date.
Of course, I DID find some super-pretty ladies who weren't like that. But enough were like that to give me pause.
is instead of trying to impress them, or kiss their ass like every other hard dick, you actually need to treat them like crap. They will end up so far out of their comfort zone, as you will be changing the rules on them, that they will start to doubt themselves and have those same thoughts of "what's wrong with me", that men usually have.
Playing head games is not a sport I enjoy, and I don't date "stripper types" for that exact reason, but it is the most effective way of dealing with a "princess".
... just dumped them -- usually for the first time in their lives a man had ever dumped them.
That, in and of itself, caused all sorts of strangeness for them.
For me, no! No way! You may want to talk to a professional about your low self-esteem. Not a criticism. Just, if you are having this problem with women in p4p setting, low self-esteem can be inhibiting success and enjoyment in other areas of your life.
What the fuck is a "professional" going to know about fucking "10s"?
The guy is nervous about seeing an incredibly beautiful women, Big fucking deal, what you said to him was mcuh worse than calling him a pussy.
The OP doesn't need a fucking therapist, he needs to get up on this horse (ho) fuck her brains out, have the time of his life, and then do it again. The last thing he needs is fucking therapy.
IMO seeing a therapist in itself is a cause for low self esteem, especially if there's nothing wrong with him in the first place.
Matt, just when I think you are growing out of your mattgina state of mind, you go and say something stupid like this.
I may ask my brother to remove your dumb ass post on the off chance someone might actually listen to you, and end up in fucking therapy because some dumbass on an internet board suggested he see a shrink about something perfectly fucking natural.
Never a dull moment around here...lol
It’s nice to know that we have stud's already getting the 9's and 10's without the hobby (very impressive).
I don't have any self esteem issues - thank you DR.
I am just saying when we get into our mid 40's and older and we're seeing beautiful women mostly younger in their 20's and 30's (mostly) I was curious if anyone else had a natural emotional response (fear - lol).
I do appreciate all the comments and I am definitely heading to the time of my life!
Hell yes!!! Don't do many 30's. 20's? Oh yeah!!!!! Not many are as attractive as i am but I have run into a few. The guys who say they are constantly with 9's and 10's are full of mierda. If that word is mis-spelled another fella will be along directly to correct me. LMAO
pity he doesn't agree with my "brilliant" political views."---LOL !
Just finished off a 4 year "long term relationship" ( at least I think that's what they call it ) with a provider who consistently got "9" scores in looks & performance. If she were a civvie, NEVER woulda asked her out; too intimidating & I'm scared shitless of rejection.
However,since she was a provider, lept to the chance to meet her; had 4 years of GREAT experiences with her; did WONDERS for my self-esteem.
Don't be too nervous, think with your "little head" & go meet this beautiful provider--------you'll have the time of your life !
As for Matt,have to agree with GaG's sentiments---------not the first time he's given out dumbass advice,as those of us on the P&R board know----LMFAO !
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Light one candle and the rest will be history.
Shouldn't be a problem.
Priapus"If she were a civvie, NEVER woulda asked her out; too intimidating & I'm scared shitless of rejection."
With your rap, I would have wagered you are used to civvy rejection by now,and it wouldn't bother you.lol
I recommend five No's every day for you, for therapeutic purposes.
No's only make the rare Yes more fulfilling,IMO.
Kind of like that Apple Pie and Milk after I had been eating sea weed for a week.
Cheers
Now,go back to your plunger------LOL!
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is also doing WONDERS for his UN....beltline.
try not to take it too hard--------
the tits on the left?
I just didn't want to make an assumption that this insecurity was your only one. And, I have no need to be right all the time, just trying to be helpful. Hope you have a great time
asswipe, it would have flown right under your radar
until I read your post, which was a hundred times worse than being called a pussy.
You put me in the uncomfortable, and unfamilier position of being the nice guy. Don't ever fucking do that again. lol
I will try to honor your request. I can't promise anything, however, because some of my clumsy attempts to do one thing end up having the totally opposite effect.
Might want to go see a "professional" and have that checked out? lol
to change his state of mind??? And where's Algina, taking the night off when he is so desparately needed here?
In answer to the OP, NO No such thing! You haven't seen her in person yet, so don't get all crazy! Would you prefer some horse tooth old HO that looked like the Keeper of the Crypt?
This is NOT a goddess, it's a female human. Get over it! Save goddess for the review, like all the others who aren't goddesses! And for christ sakes, quit being such a.....wimp! (I just couldn't call you a pussy, even though you are acting like one!)
Use it, channel it. It usually lasts about four minutes into the encounter and then "poof" you're in auto pilot.
I hesitated a bit before contacting the most beautiful provider I've met, but as it turned out there was no reason to. She was not only beautiful, but a terrific companion and very sweet as well. A couple of times we met off the clock and it was fun walking down the street and watching heads swivel to get a second look at her.
I took her to an upscale restaurant frequented by celebs and gorgeous women and without even trying she stole the show. When she smoothly picked up the check I should have sensed I was getting a signal, but I missed it. The next week she was gone, no goodbyes, after almost two very successful years, and I didn't hear from her for a couple of months when she e-mailed me some updated pictures with the comment, "I'll never forget you."
Well, she was right about that, but the point is that some women can handle their beauty and still be totally appealing and friendly, others want to be appreciated for their brains, and some become so focused on their looks they get freaked out by the staring and they become one-dimensional, either fixated on ignoring the stares or striving to maintain their looks to the detriment of everything else. That's been my experience.
I hope the OP goes through with the date and I'd bet he'll have a great time after the first five minutes of jitters.
It doesn't really matter what a provider looks like, what her numbers are or how well she is reviewed. You are not going to know if she is for you until you meet her face to face. If it works it will be because the two of you click, not just because of what she looks like. No matter how beautiful she is she's still an escort selling you her body for money. I can't honestly think of a single reason why that should make you nervous.
Through the joys of P4P I've been screwing women way out of my league for years. I have never met a woman who was "too beautiful" for me to enjoy though I have met a few physically attractive women that were stone cold and boring in bed.
even us providers get nervous meeting hobbyists..
Enjoy yourself.. If you tell her your nervous because she is held in such high regard.. You may even see that she is endeared to you just by your honesty : )
that makes a woman even more beautiful.(honesty).. Im sure you are in great hands..
sincerely..xoxox
Lorena
I skipped most of the responses because they seemed to get muddled down. Your response cut to the chase and will most likely get him major brownie points. If I am ever in Vegas, I am looking you up!
I personally can say I get nervous when people talk about.."Lovely Lorena from TER" ofcourse that is me but sometimes I too get nervous to live up to others reviews of me..
Its hard to always try to live up to the 9/10's
sincerely
Lovely Lorena
I'm remembering back, when taking a public speaking course, the instructors suggested, for getting over the nervousness, to imagine everyone in the audience naked. So, perhaps imagining her naked might help. Does that help??? It works for me.
How about stupid? Not even drunk, and I'm gonna puke allover this keyboard.
Dude. You're paying her. Or you not? WTF are you scared of? A little nervousness I can understand. But scared to death?
I could understand if you were sitting at a bar, and saw this smoking hot lady. Wanting to cozy up to her, afraid of rejection then.
But you're going to pay this gorgeous creature to fuck you. Many times I hope. So, as long as you treat her nice, are clean, and have the right donation, WTF's the problem?
Yeah, some of you, I know. STFU. This is good advice.
Dude. Have a drink with her. NOT TOO MANY. Talk for a few, and I'm sure she will bring herself down to your level, so to speak.
You'll have fun. Don't worry about it. I promise.
Hey, when I was doing that kind of thing, I hit on ladies left and right. Sure, I got some rejections -- but saw each rejection as a way of saving time for the ladies who didn't reject me!
Hey -- but like you said ... he's paying! What's to be feared?
But yeah, I guess it's easier to call the plays when you're sitting on the sideline.
For all we know he could see a lady that would make you AND mine's eyes bug out and make us drool like fucking idiots!
It sounded good when I said it, and I still believe it to be true.
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human feelings are part of life!!
If you pay for a gfe or see one from a distance at a bar a feeling/emotion is a normal reaction..(
(I think its his iniatial meeting he (OP) is referencing)
I say this with kindness to you (MP67).. I dont feel numbing your senses does much for a wonderful date..(Im sure you can agree with that)
It usually impedes ( will affect/interfere) with the performance of both hobbyist and provider..
I was always taught anything new causes an uncomfortable sense/feeling..
yet, it will pass..
Lastly, Mp67..As much as Im glad and honored to have met you and for your great support in the past/present..
This is not MPER!! it is TER!! please stop always aggravating/ chiming in..
I understand you love us ladies ( I even whitelisted YOU).Please sometimes "REFRAIN" from some of the posts that you use phrases such as "STFU" or any other condescending post..
There are people that utilize this site as a safe and business environment..There are many hobbyists here that have much more experience in this arena(allow them to help others please).. Sometimes you really lose sight of this fact..
..You need not be the "center of attention"
I have told you this in private etc.. Remember just because your paying for sex doesnt mean every woman see's all the men that inquire..A human being is a human being no matter if they are a hooker/courtesan/companion/wife/Civvie/one nightstand etc..
The original poster is here with a genuine concern and you once again rerouted the focus onto you!!
Drinking and other stuff does not always need to be posted..
Im sorry MP67..It gets a little much.If I didnt care I wouldnt post this....
with true gratitude and sincerity for ALL the people on this board that are supportive and helpful..yes you too MP67!: )---
sincerely
lorena
Thanks for thinking about the welfare of the board/community above purely business motives. I'm sure you'll get a nasty PM telling you to STFU and mind your own business but try not to let the anger from a punctured ego bother you.
Well done and thanks.
I TALKED with Lorena about our posts. We're that tight.
I got pissed, and she called me to discuss it.
We're cool. So STFU!
and that the ladies love you and that your posts are entertaining.
Fantasy is generally more pleasant than reality.
Several people here have tried to suggest in fairly pleasant terms that you STFU and quit polluting the board with your drunken machismo posturing and inanity.
Some people are just slow learners, I guess.
God damn shame I talk with some of these ladies, and guys, on the phone when I'm working while I don't have access to a computer.
Or during the nights and weekends when I do.
I must be some sort of freak show to keep them entertained to take them away from their busy lives.
And you're right. Some people have suggested I tone my shit down. People that matter, which YOU don't count.
Don't know what your fucking problem is, but I'm here. You feeling me?
Please see my reference above to drunken machismo posturing.
Thanks for proving my point.
I had an appointment with a beautiful pro athelete once. (he actually saw me twice while in town)
He looked like a mail model dripping with bling.
Face and body perfection.
Alto an interesting experience... I really felt the entire time like an observer and not part of what was happening.
It was cool to experience BUT... it wasn't a turn on.. not really physically exciting but more a mental trip.
If I had been paying for it I would have been disappointed. Maybe dif for men. Part of the experience is connection, for me. So no matter how hot looking a person is... I'd still go for a mental connection. If you can find both.. all for it... otherwise just buy a mag and save a few dollars.