It wasn't my intention to try to out the women. I wanted to try to ensure the impact of the problem at hand. I felt it was more despicable that these are local ladies, not just some "shmo". Regardless, it's all horrible.
"While pimping is one of the most disgusting things in this profession, it has it's place. Some girls don't work well without a pimp and unfortunately, a lot of THOSE girls really wouldn't be able to make a living or be taken care of if they didn't have a pimp or if they were involved in some other profession, probably because they lack the intelligence, drive, and/or work ethic to do anything else. That's the sad, but very real truth. There are good pimps."
and my response...
I feel bad for you if you really believe this ridiculous statement. You're either a pimp yourself or you've been well programed by a pimp.
The above paragraph is excerpted. In fairness to the poster, here is a link to the entire post. You'll read that I did not take it out of context.
People will always have opinions. When people are willing to have honest, open minded discussion it is pure joy, but all to often people hold onto ideas way to tight. I think it was called "Finished People".
Live to your nature and you will suffer much less.
I have learned that there are far more people in this world who are at war with themselves than that are at peace.
Peace in my experience is something one has to genuinely seek and work to find. Its an everlasting quest to find and keep. Some want it and some don't. That was the hardest thing to realize. Some find their own comfort in misery.
To quote Ali from a very recent LA discussion Board thread that would seem to apply to your original post on the Atlanta board. "Either name names or don't make inuendos.. very irresponsible."
When I started that thread, and yes, referring to a specific situation. I was also asking a general question. Unfortunately, naming names in this particular case would do alot more harm than good. I think escaping from a pimp is a serious situation.
I agree that escaping a pimp can be a serious situation.
In your first post you mentioned lady pimps and in your second post you mentioned that they may be ladies we all know. By making those statement without naming any names you are leaving everyone to speculate who those ladies might be and may help to ruin the reputation of ladies who are not involved with this pimping. That was the thrust of Ali's statements. And she was talking about remarks that might be somewhat less damaging than accusing a lady or ladies of being abusive pimps.
It wasn't my intention to try to out the women. I wanted to try to ensure the impact of the problem at hand. I felt it was more despicable that these are local ladies, not just some "shmo". Regardless, it's all horrible.
It's thinking like this that made slaves 3/5ths of a person under the original constitution and denied women the vote until the early twentieth century. Thank God for TER. It is a marketplace of ideas as much as anything that exposes this kind of pretzel logic so that it can die a natural death.
Which is that an individual is quite capable of deciding what is in his own best interest and acting accordingly. Whether it's a dictator, a welfare state or a pimp, the basic contradiction is the same: 'I'm going to force you to be free!'.
Scary that such neanderthals still walk the Earth. Scarrier still are the women (and men!) that continue to fall for their con game.
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