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Supplements like Ogoplex are scams - face it, if that stuff worked you'd have read about it here long ago.
Viagra, cialis etc are parmeeuticals, not supplements, and are documented to work very well.
I was thinking the other day that I know very little of the sexual performance supplments they have out there..
I know the basic Viagra, Cialis, and etc. But someone in the early thread mentioned ogoplex which can help with semen production. I also read that Zinc helps as well.
But the question what else is out there? That actually produces results?
What are guys using out there?
-- Modified on 11/29/2007 12:07:07 PM
ED drugs are NOT "supplements" either.
-- Modified on 11/29/2007 9:42:08 AM
I am sorry but I have to laugh.. Sure I made a typo and mispelled the word "supplements" but really this not grade school.
But thanks for contributing. As far ED drugs not being supplements I think that are many men who take them just to have an extra boost in their performance. I was mostly wondering if others did the same with other drugs or supplements.
Thanks for pointing out my typo I have corrected the error.
Knowing that your spelling has been corrected.
Without the spelling police, what would we ever do? lol
Supplements like Ogoplex are scams - face it, if that stuff worked you'd have read about it here long ago.
Viagra, cialis etc are parmeeuticals, not supplements, and are documented to work very well.
can lead to abuse... ever heard of "blue parties..." People are killing themselves to get a more rigid cock and when the first step is to examine all of things in your life and lifestyle that may be encouraging ED or loss of vigor, stamina... The over-advertised Vite B, Bathtub Cialis, and Mike Ditkas hard dick salve (Levetra) are also dangerous when abused or purchased in the underground...
Men get your life in order and lessen the stress in your life... good sex seems to follow... depending on pharmaceuticals is a recipe for disaster, if not now, it's when. I know men who have ruined their health with short cuts... I've seen every kind of pharma abuse known to date... a better diet, exercise, living right, and not abusing alcohol will get you good sex into your nineties... Ask the ladies, they know gents in their 70s and 80s, laying major pipe...
Neither yohimbe nor horny goat weed did very much for me, but others have praised them. You can get them at health food stores.
is a horndog just like me. He told me that he has looked into the pharmacology of most of them and it's ridiculous. As he said, if there was a supplement that really did this, the company / inventor would be wealthy beyond even Bill Gates!
True enough.
P.S. I'm a little tired from an Asian trip - so I hope, No, I pray! that I've spelled everything correctly.
There are many complementary substances that occur in the body that get depleted with age and certain others than try to compensate to the loss of firmness, stamina etc... One promising naturally occurring substance is L'arginine, a nonessential amino acid that get created in the body and can be supplemented through one's diet... may help you with firmness, stamina, is said to have properties that encourage "horniness."
Specifically, as far as men are concerned, it can increase levels of nitric oxide which increases blood flow to the penis. Studies are mixed and tend to suggest that L-Arginine may be effective only in those men whose erectile dysfunction is due to low levels of nitric oxide.
L-Arginine is found is a variety of foods such as dairy products, soy, meat, poultry, fish, and nuts. Odds are that most of the people reading this board eat well enough that they get a sufficient amount of L-Arginine in their diet.
Common sense should tell us that whether the compound you are taking is a prescription drug or a "natural supplement" for it to work, except for the placebo effect, it MUST operate on the body's chemistry. From my perspective that means that no matter how the FDA categorizes it, its a drug. That means that we are wise to take precautions on drug interactions. Which means talking to a competent medical professional, in other words an MD, before taking concentrated "supplements" that may interact with the medications you may be taking. If your MD doesn't pay attention to the possibility such interaction I suggest you find a new MD.
-J
Great... and I was not thinking about men with specific ED issues as much as guys who have lost their umph and want to supplement with the Vite B, ViteCialis, and ViteLevetra... L'Arginine may not help them at all, but the first thing you suggested to deal with medical issues head on and not mask them with alcohol, impatience, and dangerous substances...
Arginine - not just a good time nutrient! It does a body good.
"Dietary arginine is cytoprotective, reduces endotoxin absorption and will increase intrahepatic NO generation. Increase intrahepatic NO generation will reduce liver inflammation, intrahepatic vascular resistance and fibrosis. Evidence to support the role of additional arginine comes from three clinical trials that have both demonstrated improved liver function and survival with increased dietary protein and arginine intake." http://ods.od.nih.gov/Funding/abstract.aspx?g=1R21AT002394-01A1
But to the point of why it is interesting to us! Arginine is a precursor for NO. NO (no, not that no, I crack me up sometimes!) is nitric oxide.... and why is dat impotent? because NO is one of the signalling molecules that tells the smooth muscle to relax in the vasculature, allowing blood to accumulate.... away from the big head... and in the little head.... wow! hence the good ole woodie... but guys and gals... here is the wonder news... this is how viagra and cialis work, but ya knew that already... but it is also how yohimba works... hee hee....
Arginine, if the correct formulation is taken is safe - and actually quite good for you! imagine that! something that is fun... and is actually good for yas....! hee hee!
Dudes... Enjoy! Don't cah wish you had had me... for your chem prof... I made lectures fun!
-- Modified on 11/30/2007 12:08:12 AM
Not all over the counter supplements are scams by any means. As with almost any subject over generalizations rarely paint an accurate picture.
I have tried Viapro and it definitely works. It is an all natural alternative. Although I would recommend taking only about 50% of the allotted capsule amount (as full strength can give some people a nasty headache). It also does take 3 to 4 hours to reach full strength but it lasts for more than 48 hours. IMO it is a cost effective replacement for the major 3 ED drugs.
How about Enzyte? That guy in the TV commercial always has big smile on his face.
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