I'm just curious what the general opinion is about when it becomes HV? At which point does that happen, in your opinion?
We all know ladies that date once a month, once a week, once a day, to several times a day..

And what about the men? Do men view other men as High Volume Hobbyists? Do the ladies view men as HV Hobbyists, and at what point?

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I have a date tomorrow morning.  It's with a lady from a local agency who I have seen before.  When I called to book her, the owner told me she had a 12:30 appointment and she would have to find out about earlier availability.  She called back and said she was available for an 11 AM for 2 hours.  I did the math and came up short for my 2 hour appointment.  When I brought it up, my appointment was changed to 10 AM to give me the 2 hours.  This sounds like high volume, booking the boys back to back.

I guess I would set the borderline of HV for a Full-time provider as follows:  anything more than 3 clients per day (AM, PM and evening at most).  Anything more than that is High volume.  I also realize that many providers have heavy days and lighter days and days with nothing going on at all, so I'm not so sure that this would hold up.  One does have to make hay when the sun is shining. Or strike while the iron is hot.  Pick your own cliche.

But, here is, IMHO, the more important question:

Ladies, what is your opinion about dating "High Volume" hobbyists? (I may be considered one with all these reviews I have, but on average it has worked out to less than 1 provider per week).

Guys, what is your opinion about seeing a "High Volume" provider?


Sedona, as usual, a great post, and on target with the spirit of this board!

F.

as a provider, i tend to check out other girl's reviews and amazed by those who have more than  4 pages of reviews. not that it means that they are seeing more than one gent per that day but if all the reviews are dated the same year question marks do tend to flourish in my head.

as for the men who sees these type of girls i can only hope that they practiced safe sex.

appointment of the day with my providers .. that way it doesn't matter to me what her volume is for that day, A.M. wake up calls can be incredible ...

61 reviews ... "To dream, the impossible dream." I don't think one a week is bad at all over time. As long as you've got the budget for it, and not taking money to pay the bills, mortgage, etc. to feed the Hobby monster that dwells within us all, then why not? It makes your week go that much better, keeps depression very low, helps your self-esteem, and gives you something to look forward to next week ... all at the same time.

As for high volume providers, that's kind of a tough one. As you say, they have light days, heavy days, and none at all days. (And somewhere in all that mix are those bleeding days, when hopefully she'll take a few days off.)

Personally, your date tomorrow early in the morning, for two hours, then she has another at 12:30 ... that's a half an hour for her to switch gears back into beginning date mode for the next guy. Hope she eats a big breakfast, because there's no real time for lunch. Let alone fix herself up, and all that. Not much time at all, especially if you run a little over. And who knows how many other guys are scheduled later in the afternoon and evening. Take her some vitamins.

I see your point with three a day for providers being a borderline. Personally, I think two is a good stride. Hopefully for the provider it's a two to three or multiple hour session so she makes her $$$, without having a deli-style take a number machine beside her bed.

Also, I think it depends on the provider, and the reputation, quality of service, attentiveness and total devotion and satisfaction to the guy at the time of the date that she wants to carve out for herself. I would think that a provider seeing one or two guys a day would be more into the time she spends with each individual. Wouldn't that help both of you to relax a little bit more and enjoy one another, than "OK, we got an hour." Not that that is a bad thing, hey, if she can make a guy happy, get herself a good review and put some coin in her pocket at the same time too, (and I pray have a good time herself) then knock yourself out sweetie. For my taste though, someone I know is only seeing one or two guys a day makes me feel that much more special, that I'm hers for the day, as much as she's mine. Not that I'd object to some cutie throwing me down and having her way with me two or more times, and then leaving, mind you. I'm equal opportunity as much as anyone.

I know people will disagree, and that's fine. I guess it all depends on what you're in the mood for. Do you wanna be pampered and appreciated and reminded you're a man and that God created woman. Or do you wanna reach orgasm, smile and be on your way. I've read these reviews and guys are like, "I wasn't up for FS today, so I settled for a BBBJTC." And me, as an infrequent lover thinks, "Is this guy crazy?! Passing up FS? He needs his head examined, BOTH of them!" No DATY even, or kissing? Maybe because for me it's never been readily available, so you take what you can get when you can get it. And if it's good you take some more.

I guess the bottom line is, what do you want, and what are you willing to do to get it? That's basic actor motivation study 101. If you don't mind standing in line, so to speak and to generalize, then go for it. If you'd rather take it slow, and enjoy her company, again, go for it. Either way be polite, sweet, and remain a gentleman.

61 reviews ... I strive to acheive your level fortitude. Though 69 would be better. 71 would be thrilling, and 77 would be nirvana.

My $0.02 worth. More like a $1. Keep the change.
Jimbomania

The only time I don't follow that rule is when I have a "dinner date".  Filet of lobster doesn't really go down well for breakfast.  But you are correct about being the first of the day.

i call it being "number one on the runway"

the only way this boy flies!

Yes, it's like getting a virgin.

I remember one time I thought I was the first, a 10:00 AM appt, only to find the smell of latex and lube permeating the loins of my lustful partner.

I might get out, on average, once a week.  But it depends on when my favorites are available.  If they're out of town, etc., then my frequency drops.  It could be 1-2 times a month.  I don't consider myself high volume.  But that's because I'm not seeing new people all the time.

I like ladies that aren't high volume.  If she only sees one client a day, I think that's perfect for me.  I feel she's a low volume provider.  I still don't think a lady is high volume if she's dating 2-3 days a week.  Multiple appts. 3 or 4 days a week is high, IMHO.

tennis

I'll take that as a compliment, I think.  Thank you.

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so eloquently described, i just got a whiff of it back from sense memory! it's so freaking abhorrent to me, especially with sweat and BO mixed in.

sometimes i think i'd rather slit my eyeballs with a razor blade than to proceed on such unhappy occasions. one of my few ATFs tried to pull a fast one on me recently ("i swear i came straight here from home") she's now banished to the proverbial back seat for a very long time. this, after i explained to her with due emphasis when we first met how this one commandement above all she should NEVER break!

frankly, it amazes me how some guys couldn't care less if they were slurping up some other guy's .... eeewweeewhhh!  

you get the picture. 'nuff said!

Well maybe she did come straight from home....you just don't know what she was doing at home

One of the reasons I like going to Mexico in addition to the ladies being some of the most beautiful in the world I make dates for the whole evening (most of the girls are dancers and never work during the day) I call them ahead of time and they don't go into work.  Pick them up for dinner about 7:00pm, go to a club or two and then back to the condo.  Some will leave at 2:00 or 3:00am but most will stay for breakfast.  Rates: low of $250 high of $500 and we're talking class girls.

Cabo is the best of all.

SlowStart

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except for when they've just seen my friend an hour ago and then want me to hop in bed with them. I never go for sloppy seconds I've been asked to see a man and his buddy before one right after the other and had to politely tell them that is tacky and I'd rather bring a friend instead.

I also know of a couple of people who partake in the hobby several times a week and know of one person in particular that saw 6 girls over the course of 3 days. Now that's HeMan!

I try to limit myself to 1 or 2 appt a day so that I can enjoy whoever I'm with and give them that special attention they deserve. I did work for a madam years ago that booked me back to back appts (like 1 every hour on the hour no breaks in between not even 5 minutes) and that was just ridiculous. The poor guys were totally getting a jipped session because I'm always freshley showered for my guys and I'd have to make them wait an extra 5-10 minutes just so I could be ready for them. I always felt so bad about that and ever since I've been independent I always plan my day so that I have plenty of time in between appts to rest, shower, eat or whatever so that neither one of us ever feels rushed.

like maybe she fooled around at home with her own brother!  

as in "House of Incest"  

...I've never understood the "touring" thing. Some guys wil pay EXTRA (because touring pros tending go for a higher rate than the local talent) to be with a woman who has humped 3 guys before you, most recently about 30 minutes ago (more than one story has been posted about guys passing in the hallway, or waiting in the lobby while the previous client finished his dessert) and has plans to hump 3 more after you, all for the privilege of being able to say "I've slept with this well known escort. Well...me and about 500 other guys..."

What the hell is the point of that?

I guess for some of us it truly is a "hobby". They seek only the right to say "I've done it", adding another notch to the belt. The more high profile the notch, or the more exotic the locality (I mean, what is the point of traveling to another country JUST to get laid??)...in summary...the better the story, the better the better.

In that sense, I guess it is truly a hobby for some, and is how I often feel out of place. Why just base jump off of any cliff when you can base jump off a cliff in Thailand? I suspect the experience is the same...but I certainly understand WHY one makes the trek...because it isn't just about the jump. Or, why base jump off a bridge somewhere in Iowa, if you can manage to do it off the Golden Gate? Again...you would never convince me it feels any different on the way down, but I understand...there is more to it than that.

I guess what I am ranting about is....to me, there isn't more to it than that regarding this "hobby". I'm after sex. Not an "experience", just enjoyable sex. And I can't see how doing ________ (fill in the blank with the name of your favor fake tit, blonde haired production sex touring escort) is actually going to be BETTER SEX than a well reviewed, low volume (want is low volume? One client a day max) Independent who truly enjoys her work, versus seeing it as simply gainful employment (as in "if I travel to New York, I can charge more per session...and if I see 5 clients a day versus my usual 3, that will offset the higher hotel costs...)

Sorry about the rant...but I have been really rethinking this hobby thing...

There are days when I want to see more than one of the many pretty and erotic ladies I enjoy so much. Other days when one cute young lady is more than I can handle. Bottom line is I try to live by the P6 Principal:

Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

Applied to the Hobby it means that I:

Always carry my own condoms, lubes, farm animals; and I am religious about showering, shaving (above and below), using a very small amount of GOOD cologne and oral care (flossing, brushing my teeth, hydrogen peroxide gargling) and making sure my donation is right on top inside the bag that I carry with me to my meetings.

If I have a long drive to see a lady, then I shower when I get there using my own towel, washcloth, soap, and other toiletries.

I've spoken with several of the ladies about seeing more than one provider in a day and they have no problem with that because they know how meticulous I am about hygene and practicing safe sex. I also get an HIV/STD test every other month when I visit my physician.

ET of HPG

On that you and I will agree. This hobby thing is ridiculous. It's a need not a hobby. You want a hobby? Take up golf,fishing,
sailing or even racing sports cars. I can guaranty anyone of them is a hell of lot cheaper than this. Let's get real. We're philanders not hobbyists.

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You should read my post on the New York Board.  There have been some posts complaining that visiting provider don't live up to their local reviews, probably in part because of the high volume.  I was surprised at some of the responses.