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Upcoming trip to FL...What would you do?
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First of all I hate to even ask "What will you do" type of questions, as I am fully capable of making my own decisions.  That being said, what I am looking for is additional perspective on this matter..  

 
I have an upcoming trip to Fort Lauderdale, and I am really anxious about the COVID situation there with the rising cases of the Delta variant. I am fully vaccinated as of April, and would be triple masking when I go to strip clubs. I also checked with the management of both the strip clubs I plan to go to, and although they got a chuckle out of it,  they were OK w/ me asking the strippers to wear masks. They did not object to it at all.  Most of the time, I will be spending on the beach working on my tan LOL, so I am pretty safe there.  It is seeing the providers I am worried about.  I have two of them lined up.

 
I understand that serious hospitalizations and deaths for vaccinated are extremely rare, but I find myself in the category of the people who are just unable to shake off the anxiety, especially given the fact that I am in the category that takes immunosuppressants for underling chronic condition.  

 
What would you do, if you were in my situation ?  

 
a) Cancel the trip...  I am bored out of my mind for last 18 months.. Literally gone nowhere. I used to go on a mini vacation every 2-3 months.  So this has been bad stretch.  At the same time, I feel guilty bitching about it because there are hundreds of thousands who have died or permanently damaged because of the virus, so my boredom pales in comparison.  

 
b) Go for it: Don't overthink it...  Just go have fun..

 
c) Go but abstain from sex.. How much "fun" would that be? But definitely more fun than sitting home watching people take their dogs out for a walk, ordering Doordash, and occasionally taking my car for a drive...

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GaGambler175 reads

I had a great time, the city was wide open and the beach, and the beach bars of course, were great.

 
That said, we are talking about you, not me.  I hate to say this, but "a" might be your best option if you can't get the anxiety out of your head. You need to ask yourself if you can really enjoy yourself if you can't shake the feeling that you are going to catch a life ending disease from virtually everyone you come in contact with? If the answer is no, then maybe you are better off staying at home where you feel safe.

 
One suggestion that I just thought of, rather than jumping back into things feet first and taking a trip out of state that might be a total bust, why don't you try some baby steps first. Go to a couple of local strip clubs and see if you can let loose enough to enjoy yourself and then if you pass your own test you might think about jumping on a plane to Florida. Speaking of planes, if you are really that immuno-compromised do you REALLY trust the little cloth masks the other passengers will be wearing to protect you in the VERY close space you will be sharing with a 100+ people on a plane? I would think the plane ride would be more dangerous for you than going to a strip club. Sex with a provider (or with anyone else) is a completely different matter of course

But looks like this is something we will have to live with for rest of our lives. Just like we are living w/ influenza virus.  We will have to take shots to protect us from it. If this was it then i would gladly put up with "house arrest" for another 6 months.. But the virus will mutate into the next greek alphabet sooner than we realize.  

 
I was thinking of taking baby steps, but the problem is that DC strip clubs are terrible.  You do bring up excellent point about air travel being more riskier than strip club. visit.

You can significantly reduce exposure risk by controlling the environment and type of contact.

One example for how you might do this.

Stay at a hotel or airbnb and have the entertainment come to you.  

If you do that and limit yourself to lower volume (and, yes, generally higher priced) girls, you can have a lot of fun while limiting (not eliminating) your risk. I have done this when I traveled many times for privacy reasons, or just when I didn’t feel like going out, and I’ve had a fabulous time.  

Generally, I agree with gag. Mitigate risk wherever possible and it makes sense to you. But don’t let anxiety run your life.

I'd go for it but not in FL. The entire state is a giant hot spot that just set its own record for new cases and hospitalizations. So even if you're taking precautions, it's in a giant Petri dish.
So I'd pick another venue for b) and go for that.

Have to agree with inicky46.  

 
You should be able to find reasonably safe fun, but look for a location that isn't already in a deep hole of COVID infections and transmissions.  You can find a pro almost anywhere, thanks to TER, and there is site for good intel on where to find strip clubs that offer whatever you want. (DM for deets.)  

But maybe start with searching the CDC website for low infection/high vaccination rate locations...  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

The way my mind works, staying home would be better idea than going to another place, because it's August.. And in August I always go to Miami. Just like after World Series I always go to Vegas, and I go to New York during Christmas..  (except for last year)..

 
I always have Pizza every other Wednesday and  Tuna Sandwich every Tuesday.  

 
I am sure shrinks have a name for this behavior.. :D  

 
That being said,  while a lot has been reported about Florida being petri dish, the numbers in Miami Dade county and Broward County are pretty good actually. 90% of people in Miami Dade county over age of 18 have had at least 1 shot and  in Broward County that number is 75%.  

 
I looked this up as I was typing this message and didn't have the info handy when making the original post.

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and I wouldn't travel to Florida right now under any circumstances. If I were taking immuno-suppressants, that can make the COVID vaccine less effective, that would add to the risk considerably. Better to be bored than, at best, anxious or, at worst, sick from COVID. My 2 cents. Good luck with your decision.

You know your own health and risks much better than I could possible infer from your post. One thing you're not really mentioning is others around you.

 
Seems that the Delta risk for those vaccinated are largely for others around them with weak immune systems or no vaccination. Looking like the vaccine will limit the impact to the person but is not doing much to limit the amount of virus they will be shedding if infected with the Delta version.

Are you overweight? Do you jab your gut with insulin? Is your immediate family vaccinated, great to hear you're vaccinated.
Not knowing your situation it'll be really hard for anyone to chime in. What are you coming home too?
But, If I was you, (you should be so lucky)
I won't do the strip club thing if you're "triple masking". That's a bit much. I would work on my tan, call a few ladies (vaccinated of course) and I'd showcase my white ass...(you are white, yes?)  
So see the providers and compare tan lines....But skip the strip club, they're overrated anyways.,,,Blue balls and all.

the strip clubs and goes with one-on-one escort encounters, he lowers his risk factor significantly.  I also agree with Nicky and Herb about the option of a different venue.  There are resort areas up the coast in the Carolinas that have some beautiful escorts and much less worry about Covid.

I should have stated that I go to strip clubs in the afternoon..  The girls are in LESS hustling mode at the time. The  nights get wild..  But I will think about skipping them altogether..

The Food at Tootsies is one of the best kitchen in a club (of any kind) that I have found to be..  I met a couple of guys back in 2019 who were local businessmen in the Miami Gardens area who come to Tootsies just for the food.   Their wings, pizza, subs.. oh my god ! heaven..

No smoking or drugs.. Occasional 420  lol which I vape not smoke..  I am 165 lbs 5'8.. Not diabetic, but have a rheumatoid arthritis for which I take a shot of Humira every 3 weeks..   I live by myself, so coming home to no-one. No wife or kids.. Not even pets.  

 
Yeah the tan comment was a big job.. I don't need to be tanned. I am of East Indian descent.. No white.. So I put LOL after the tan comment.

Canada leads the world in vaccination success. And the p4p scene up there is world renowned.

Remember the Delta variant, while more contagious, isn’t as deadly, especially for vaccinated folks like you and I. If you go to Florida though, given your higher co-morbidity, I would avoid the strip clubs and stick to escorts.

Montreal is on my list.. I kick myself never going to Expos games.. I wasn't aware that the border is open now..

The Canadian border is scheduled to open on August 9 to fully vaccinated Americans. A negative PCR test is required within 72 hours of entry into Canada and for return to the USA.  Random testing may also be done at the Canadian border or Canadian port of entry.

If you vaccinated you are fine.  Only 4% of the hospitalization are vaccinated people. That means the vaccine is 96% effective in keeping you out of the hospital.  That is way better than the annual flu vaccine, better than the pnumonia vaccine and better than the shingles vaccine.  If 96% isn't good enough for you, you are seeking the wrong form of entertainment.  And yes, I am a native Floridian

Why? Cloth masks basically do nothing to protect the wearer.

If you're truly concerned wear an N95 mask and make sure you're clean-shaven. Nothing strikes me as being as stupid as guys with beards wearing N95 masks.

Buying N95 right now..  They are not cheap.. So definitely worth it..

my-0.02-cents158 reads

The whole point of the vaccine is to fight COVID when you get it not if you get infected with COVID. Everybody is going to get infected with this virus one way or another. If you have serious health condition you can hide in your house until this virus and its mutations goes away.  

We had the first flu vaccine come out in 1945 and the flu virus is still kicking it like it is 1944.

... Is to live as long as possible then just stay home.  If your goal is to live, then just go out and have a good time and forget about all this virus stuff.  If your goal is to wait for it to pass and then start living, well you may regret that.  Total government control is coming, so if you don't live now you may never get that chance.

But we can't decide for you...

"If your goal . . . is to [exist] as long as possible then just stay home." ;-)

Either do it or don’t. It is a question that a 5 year old would ask. Not a grown up person who has already signed up for a “trial” vaccination.
You are already, technically, a statistic in the matter and you play a major role in proving the COVID Vaccine works. Or doesn’t :-/

.adults have all the answers all the time. You must be living in an alternate reality then.

with already well-thought-out solutions, I'll suspect you already know your answer lol

Taylor

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan

First of all I hate to even ask "What will you do" type of questions, as I am fully capable of making my own decisions.  That being said, what I am looking for is additional perspective on this matter..  
   
   
 I have an upcoming trip to Fort Lauderdale, and I am really anxious about the COVID situation there with the rising cases of the Delta variant. I am fully vaccinated as of April, and would be triple masking when I go to strip clubs. I also checked with the management of both the strip clubs I plan to go to, and although they got a chuckle out of it,  they were OK w/ me asking the strippers to wear masks. They did not object to it at all.  Most of the time, I will be spending on the beach working on my tan LOL, so I am pretty safe there.  It is seeing the providers I am worried about.  I have two of them lined up.  
   
   
 I understand that serious hospitalizations and deaths for vaccinated are extremely rare, but I find myself in the category of the people who are just unable to shake off the anxiety, especially given the fact that I am in the category that takes immunosuppressants for underling chronic condition.  
   
   
 What would you do, if you were in my situation ?  
   
   
 a) Cancel the trip...  I am bored out of my mind for last 18 months.. Literally gone nowhere. I used to go on a mini vacation every 2-3 months.  So this has been bad stretch.  At the same time, I feel guilty bitching about it because there are hundreds of thousands who have died or permanently damaged because of the virus, so my boredom pales in comparison.  
   
   
 b) Go for it: Don't overthink it...  Just go have fun..  
   
   
 c) Go but abstain from sex.. How much "fun" would that be? But definitely more fun than sitting home watching people take their dogs out for a walk, ordering Doordash, and occasionally taking my car for a drive...  

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I can formulate in a question in an intelligible manner, doesn't mean I possess the answer..

 
Trust me, I  know myself better than you think you know me..  

AnotherDonJohn163 reads

I canceled a trip to S Florida this month because of other reasons but I was fully ready to enjoy myself!

For those who are interested, my flu like reaction to the third shot lasted a little longer than the first two times (48 hours) .

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan

First of all I hate to even ask "What will you do" type of questions, as I am fully capable of making my own decisions.  That being said, what I am looking for is additional perspective on this matter..  
   
   
 I have an upcoming trip to Fort Lauderdale, and I am really anxious about the COVID situation there with the rising cases of the Delta variant. I am fully vaccinated as of April, and would be triple masking when I go to strip clubs. I also checked with the management of both the strip clubs I plan to go to, and although they got a chuckle out of it,  they were OK w/ me asking the strippers to wear masks. They did not object to it at all.  Most of the time, I will be spending on the beach working on my tan LOL, so I am pretty safe there.  It is seeing the providers I am worried about.  I have two of them lined up.  
   
   
 I understand that serious hospitalizations and deaths for vaccinated are extremely rare, but I find myself in the category of the people who are just unable to shake off the anxiety, especially given the fact that I am in the category that takes immunosuppressants for underling chronic condition.  
   
   
 What would you do, if you were in my situation ?  
   
   
 a) Cancel the trip...  I am bored out of my mind for last 18 months.. Literally gone nowhere. I used to go on a mini vacation every 2-3 months.  So this has been bad stretch.  At the same time, I feel guilty bitching about it because there are hundreds of thousands who have died or permanently damaged because of the virus, so my boredom pales in comparison.  
   
   
 b) Go for it: Don't overthink it...  Just go have fun..  
   
   
 c) Go but abstain from sex.. How much "fun" would that be? But definitely more fun than sitting home watching people take their dogs out for a walk, ordering Doordash, and occasionally taking my car for a drive...  

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is not a smart thing to do..   Read this article.

This is just where I'm at. I've followed most of the recommended protocols throughout COVID. Avoided anything with large groups inside, masked until I was fully vaccinated, washed my hands, sanitized and so forth. Got vaccinated as soon as I could. I'm over 60 but don't have any other risk factors.

 
I started seeing providers regularly around June 2020 once the first COVID wave passed and haven't stopped. I've been going to strip clubs unmasked since I was fully vaccinated in early May of this year, in an area where you can bang the strippers in the VIP rooms. Unmasked, sucking face and titty with wild abandon, the whole 9 yards.

 
My reasoning before vaccination was that individual meet-ups were an acceptable risk for me in times/places of low spread. After vaccination, my reasoning is that infection is unlikely, even with Delta, and bad outcomes are extremely unlikely. People I come into contact with regularly are also vaxxed without other significant risk factors.

 
However, if I felt I needed to be masked and the stripper masked to go to a club, I think I just wouldn't go. I'd only see individual providers and be as certain as possible about their vaccination status.

 
Everyone has their own perception of risk, and level of risk that they are willing to take based on that perception. I've definitely done what I thought were the most important things to avoid COVID, but some people would probably say that I'm reckless.

.. I was with one SB all through out the pandemic. She has since moved to another part of the country to pursue career. She was a grad student. Being in somewhat of a monogamous relationship certainly helped during the pandemic.  

 
My hobbying, leading up to the pandemic, was mostly when I went to Vegas and Florida anyway..

I think I would plan a trip to an area of the country that had fewer cases of the virus and where hospitals were not being over burdened with covid cases.  Florida, especially the southeastern part ( including Lauderdale) and Texas account for somewhere around  35% of all the new cases.

I agree we need to get back to life enjoyment, but we need to do it wisely.

Go ahead and have your vacation, but
 use common sense. When out and about if lots of people around mask up and if seeing a provider ask her status. Me I had Moderna 2nd round in May had a rapid test last week,  my friends are the same way we take good could care of ourselves for our clients. Personally, I do not mind showing my card lol it is the new way of life I suppose ..

Are the Uber / Lyft drivers wearing masks?  Just trying to get a pulse on how people are treating the outbreak. I just got back from a Happy Hour, and took Uber back to my crib, and the Uber dude was all masked up. I was masked up too.

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Black--Panther146 reads

I dunno, I might ask the provider to wear a mask, would be kind of kinky IMHO. You can wear the mask in the club.

To me it's not worth it at that point..  

 
I have decided to  mitigate the risk by hitting strip clubs in the afternoon than late in the evening, and roll the dice with providers. Rest of the time, I will mask up.   I am fully vaccinated, and more likely than not, if I do get the virus it would be a minor case.

I know 2 people in the DC area who were full vaccinated. Both got sick with covid-19 while on vacation in Florida.  

So if your point is to stay out of Florida right now that would be prudent.  However since you are an anti-science sort, I'm sure you are attempting to impugn the effectiveness of the vaccine.  You have failed. The vaccines were designed to prevent severe covid, hospitalization, and death. They work remarkably well to that end. However a small percentage of vaccinated people may get breakthrough infections, especially due to the highly transmissible delta variant, that are typically mild or asymptomatic. I wouldn't mind so much constantly educating you on science but you have no mental capacity to retain the education so you continue to be a failure.

You can catch the Delta variant in 1 day.  Also they have other variants in southern Florida, a special Columbian one that is 10% of the cases (it has not been named yet).

In northern Virginia. All died in the ICU of covid-19.  So much for keeping people for expiring from covid-19.

I also know of a husband/wife. Husband partially vaccinated, wife fully vaccinated.  From a suburb of Richmond, VA area. Both died of covid-19.

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Yet another reason not to know you. If that's true, and I seriously suspect it is not, that flies in the face of the fact that 98% to 99% of COVID deaths are in the unvaccinated.

Ultra liberal California has more deaths per day from Covid than Florida right now.  The focus on Florida by the liberal media is because they consider Desantis a presidential candidate threat in 2024.  Their hero Cuomo has New York with nearly twice the cumulative death rate than Florida.  But the liberal media claimed Cuomo "did it right."  They lie with such abandon.

Because most of the NY cases and deaths happened more than a year ago, when there was much less known about Covid and no vaccine. The illnesses and deaths right now are nowhere near as bad as in Florida.
Fester should be embarrassed to say ANYONE else lies with such abandon.

The issue here is not if one is more likely to get infected in CA vs FL.  Yes, CA is pretty bad too, and why even bring up CA. I am not going to CA or was ever considering going to CA.  

 
As far as DeSantis.. That man is pure evil. Holding up teachers pay? Dictating from Tallahassee what school districts in Broward County, and Miami Dade County should do? I mean really? Isn't it ultimate conservative principle to have decentralized government and let the locals make their own decisions? Whatever happened to that....

 
BTW, his intended run for 2024 assuming that the Orange Man is in jumpsuit already or already drowned in legal troubles, both civil and criminal, is why he is acting as an ass clown.. Why would the media report on Gavin Newsom in same light as DeSantis. He has no intentions of running for 2024, and 2028 is too far away.. He has his own political troubles with recall election, which media is covering just fine. Giving it as much attention as it deserves in the light of everything else happening..  

 
I am sorry, but dude.... Are you for real...

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First of all, Just keep putting it out there and tell the person that you are requiring that she wears the mask.

So I came back in town from Fort Lauderdale last Friday  8/20.. And had a great time out there..

 
Went to two strip clubs (Cheetah at Halandale Beach and Tootsies in Miami Garden area).  Both the time I was masked, and few guys were masked, but no strippers were masked.  Had total of 8 lap dances, and only one hottie was able to sweet talk me into removing mask.. A really beautiful Ukranian chic with sexy accent called Natatsha. Now you know why hotties from that part of the globe make for good spies.. LOL.  

 
Saw two providers.. One was fully vaccinated and other one was not.. Should have passed on the 2nd one due to vaccination status, but didn't..  

 
Went to my favorite Steak House and Italian place.  It wasn't very crowded. Had a good meal at the bar area.. Did not wear mask while eating or drinking..

 
Wore mask at all other times like the Airport, Uber, Hotel lobby etc..  

 
Additionally got Rapid Test done today.. 6 days after arrival, and it came negative. PSR test results are pending.. Have had no symptoms to begin with.

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Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan

 Saw two providers.. One was fully vaccinated and other one was not.. Should have passed on the 2nd one due to vaccination status, but didn't..  

Just curious why? A vaccinated individual can get infected and spread the infection like an unvaccinated individual can.

Based on  following different doctors on cable news and the like, it is my understanding that while both unvaccinated and vaccinated folks can carry the same amount of viral load, some studies have shown that the duration for which the vaccinated carry the load is a lot less than the duration for which unvaccinated carry the load..  

 
So it tells me that at a given point there is a greater chance of getting infected thru an unvaccinated person, as a function of how long she carries the virus, than from a vaccinated person. It would be a lot better if the vaccinated carried less load, but apparently that doesn't seem to be the case.  

 
Does that make sense?

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I would still ill go(Don't Overthink it) Stay procautious. And have fun.

You do realize this post was from August right? I went, had fun.. All good..

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