for many years ... almost decades no discussion about BB was allowed here .. i am glad its out in the open.   its been going on forever and not just in the Kgirl world ... but i admit much more in the last 6 years or so.      

so anytime you are considering it just do so knowing you are not the only one ...which can be both reassuring and nerve racking at the same time !

just know i do admire the professional ladies who don't do that and are able to keep a level head.      but that percentage is going down.  i just hope they stay true to their standards and not succumb to peer or competitive pressure.    

just wish female condoms were more readily available !!  

all this reminds me of the guy who jumped off the building yelling so far so good as he passed the 5th floor      

First, you’re happy BB is being discussed. Then, you’re happy and hopeful that ladies won’t give into BB and keep their standards. And you end with being reminded of a guy committing suicide. Please get help.

Seems OP is giving voice to a concern some of us have. I love the opportunities to play here, but I've read a couple of reviews of ladies I've seen in the past who are now--according to the latest reviews--offering BB. They're off my list. I don't know whether theyd started to offer it before I last saw them, and therefore before the last time I DATY'd them.  
But, as OP says, if the practice is growing, so is the risk. P4P was never completely safe. The question is whether it's getting even less so.

But you have to admit, ending with the image of a guy jumping to his death is not how it was going from the start.

Exactly  you get it. (Although I hope you dont lol)    its people seem to be getting complacent about BB.     My point was some are thinking well the hobby has been so safe in the past I am sure it will continue to be despite BB become more prevalent...     of course what stuns me are the guys with 100+ reviews BB with girls seeing 5 a day.    Shaking my head about that Russian or should I say asian roulette ...   ok enough said.  Just be careful out there

To:  all this reminds me of the guy who jumped off the building yelling so far so good as he passed the 5th floor    

A parachute folder was asked if he knew what he was doing. His reply?  "I haven't had any complaints."

it up almost every other week in a couple of boards that I've seen.
It's been brought up ad nauseum with almost the same posters, me included, with their same two cents!
And other posters too, and I ask, just what are they looking for.
For enough *it's cool* votes so they can feel better about going BB!
P4P is risky, I thought most of the posters were adults with some common sense, but it seems there are quite a few that are just pretty lame.
I really wonder what some of these people are like IRL!

 

It's this kind of repetitive shit that is, IMO, helping to end the life and good discussions on the boards.
All MO!

I have been doing this for over a decade now and you would be surprised how many "reputable" ladies have offered me bbfs.  
It's not my thing, but I'll admit I was honored that they offered.
I won't spill the bean while I still participate in the hobby, but I would say about 40% of the "reputable " ladies Ive encountered offered it at some point.
Many of them I've never reviewed on here.

I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I’ve mostly been observing these conversations rather than jumping in, and one thing that’s stood out to me is that the bareback discussion has largely been framed for and by clients, not really from a provider lens. Which fair enough, the internet is going to internet. It's truly an observation, not a criticism. From the provider side, though, it’s hard not to notice that certain market shifts inevitably create ripple effects, whether we’re talking about safety norms, client expectations, or how risk gets distributed across the system.

 
Personally, I *do not* offer BBFS. I *do* offer female condoms... and honestly, I wish more clients were into them. At this point I joke that I’ve accidentally become a bulk distributor because I get around 3-4 boxes/mo and end up selling them to other providers or giving them away at times. They’re criminally underrated and deserve a better marketing team.

 
That said, I’m not here to judge colleagues who do BBFS. Everyone gets to set their own boundaries and manage their own risk. If someone is making more money and feels aligned with how they’re operating, more power to them. I genuinely hope they’re testing frequently and staying healthy. The same goes for providers who choose BBFS only with semi-exclusive regulars or arrangements where the client is potentially 50+% of their income. After speaking with some of you, I get that it's a very different situation, and there is nuance.

 
Where I do feel concern (not judgment... I promise I left my pitchfork at home) is around how normalized ultra-low-cost, high-volume BBFS has become in certain corners of the market. Not from a morality standpoint, but because volume changes the math, whether we like it or not.

 
One thing I’ve noticed reading these threads is that there are actually several different groups talking past each other. There are quieter, risk-averse clients who’ve done risky things before and don’t want that normalized. There are people who knowingly embrace risk and are comfortable owning that choice. And then there’s a third pattern that tends to hijack the room: when risk-embracing behavior gets questioned, some folks respond not by engaging the substance, but by turning it into an insult Olympics.

 
That reaction is telling. If someone truly feels solid in their choices, they should be able to defend them without attacking others or pretending downstream risk doesn’t exist. Risk tolerance is personal. Risk reverb and IMPACT isn’t always.

 
Over time, I’ve come to understand that when you simplify it as much as possible, the client Ven Diagram is this: Some want the full experience: mental, emotional, and physical release. Some want purely physical release only. Some live in the middle or vacillate between the two depending on life context. High-volume agencies clearly cater to the physical-only end of that spectrum, and that’s a valid business model. From a business-owner standpoint alone, creating demand is… impressive. From a community standpoint, though, it’s worth talking about what that demand changes.

 
I don’t think BB is “evil,” and I don’t think discussing risk makes someone prudish. I do think honest discussion requires acknowledging testing windows, volume effects, and shared ecosystems without assuming that asking those questions is an attack.

 
Anywho, let me get off my soapbox. It's just interesting watching the market shift.  

 
P.S. I still believe adults should be able to talk about hard topics without turning it into a cage match.

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an intelligent, thoughtful, emotion-free balanced post with which i agree  ........... obviously paigesavage  will soon be banned from this site! LOL  ( for those of you who dont get it, thats called sarcasm )   he he he    

thank you for that post.  nice change of pace

Female condoms are readily available on eBay.  

 
Amazon doesn't sell them because they're prescription only but eBay isn't such a stickler for details.  I recently bought a box of 12 on eBay from a woman who got them with a prescription (part of the scrip label was still on the box).  She probably paid little or nothing because they were covered by her insurance.  She turned around and sold them to me for $30.  With shipping It came out to $3.00 each.

They're available at www.worldcondoms.com

I get mine from world condoms.com , I just wish there was a sexier way to put them in lol. I love using them during doubles. And I've had mixed feelings about the female condom. But it's definitely nice to have available for those who really do enjoy it. Worldcondoms.com has a really great selection of condoms for all sizes. The only downside is it does take a few weeks to get delivery and they are a bit expensive.

My last review had never tried one, so we did. I love to offer new options. I did notice it was never mentioned in my latest review, nor did he mention the 5 other variety of condoms we utilized. I used 6 condoms in 2 hours and the review never mentions any covers. For those of us who pride ourselves in offering a wide variety it kind of sucks when the review never mentions anything related to safety.  

I personally, do not like the time it takes to put the female condoms in, or the way it looks, but I do enjoy offering something new during my time it’s fun!  I don’t think the female condoms are expensive. eBay carries my brand FC2! 💗

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Im glad its out in the open as well. It had been going on for far too long to not be able to openly discuss it.  

I was told by an older provider on here to not discuss it any more. That rubbed me the wrong way and lit a fire under my ass to make sure we did discuss it.  

Knowing is half the battle and all.  

Female condoms are fun for gals you dont necessarily want to go bb with. But bb itself is still the big winner when you find a compatible provider that is willing to offer it.

I think a good portion of the providers on here that were vocal against discussing are worried the market will shift hard in that direction and they will be forced to make some difficult decisions. The ebb and flow of business, you cant stop what direction things go
 Can onlly adapt and change with the times.

I definitely agree. Especially if you show a recent test.

A recent test seems to go a long ways these days

I think most working gals offering bb are on prep

I love them and they're readily available at the adult shop next to my apartment, no script required.

"recent test" which is pretty useless.

I had never tried one before you introduced me to it. And haven't used one since either. They're not too common and yes, putting one in kind of interrupts things.

First they are inevitably judged and looked down upon by many other providers. And many just don't want that.  

 
I know some providers on this site offer bb but are forced to talk about it under an alias, ask clients to never say anything in reviews about it, and basically keep it a worst kept secret. Even though there are definitely hints about it on the provides site it is never spelled out in clear. As such, they are forced to keep this facade because public perception of a bbfs provider is still generally bad. I don't think many providers want to be called "cumdumps" and other stuff meant to be denigrating.  

 

A separate popular socal classifieds site (starts with h and ends with x), the providers who would find out a provider did bb in the open would gang up and bully a provider there either forcing her off the platform or basically threatening to leave a negative "vote" for anyone who sees the provider.

 
And while yes, a client who sees a bb provider and then sees a non-bb provider is a risk for the latter, I'm sure there's a better way to handle this.  

 
But yes, I suspect not many bbfs providers will openly admit to being one on a forum. Unlike us clients who have anonymity in some way or form (some of us like myself never given my government name or any pii to a provider or agency), providers are typically more exposed. And even anonymously you won't have many clients admit they're getting stds and suffer consequences. Which provider would want to admit catching an std? It would be very unhelpful for their career.  

 
So I'm interested to hear from bbfs providers and their perspective, but I also expect that we really won't.

...gotten the post removed nor would it have been allowed in reviews.

free of charge, no less; at least at the one near me.

They were the first and are still the best.

While some locations offer them freely, others may provide them at low cost or require a consultation to obtain them. It is recommended to call your local Planned Parenthood to confirm availability.

I've always wanted to try them and thought about it for a while, but never knew where to search for them and they most definitely not at the pharmacy [lol] but now that I know where to order them and see how fast they get here so I can start offering them and have them for my fist tour.

I am happy it is openly discussed.

I have never met a hooker that doesn't allow it.  
The price is isually the deciding factor.  

I have been barebacking hookers , strippers and sugarbabies for 27 years.  

Glad it can be talked about.