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So Caitlyn's thread below got me to thinking about other posts that come up from time to time, and comments I've heard in person from provider and hobbyist alike...

The question is pretty simple: Is there something about a hobbyist who has seen many, many women, or a provider with many, many reviews, that makes some of us just go "Ick!"?

Just wondering if the "low volume" mantra applies equally as an attractor for both hobbyist and provider; whether "higher volume" on either side really DOES matter to you? Why?  

Is it really an "Ick!" factor, or is it more of a "risk" factor? Is it just the search for "regulars"? Or is it more? Does it somehow reach into our "true" selves?

It all depends on our own perceptions. I know hookers who won't see guys who have reviewed TS girls.. That leads to lot of guys who go to TS girls not reviewing TS girls because of a) shame, b) not getting future appointments w/ regular girls.  

But its all in the minds of people, and purely psychological. As there is no way to tell how many guys or gals one has slept with. Just because the review isn't there means nothing. Our own GaG has fucked 1000s of gals, w/o a single review, and some people write fake reviews all the time...

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
It all depends on our own perceptions. I know hookers who won't see guys who have reviewed TS girls
Yeah I've never understood that. To me, TS girls are just as "woman" as us cisgender girls, so I don't really see a big difference. Maybe they think there's more risk involved? Someone enlighten me, please.

in the United States. Confirmed by CDC. But given so much cross pollination in our hooking world, I say its a moot point.

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Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
in the United States. Confirmed by CDC. But given so much cross pollination in our hooking world, I say its a moot point.

of an activist/social worker. But its hard to change the perception of people.  And yes, its sometimes unfair.. But people lot of times respond/ react in life based on perceptions.. And perceptions are not reality.  

Just like some people perceive me as a white, racist guy... Far from the truth.. I just get a chuckle out of it...

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Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
of an activist/social worker. But its hard to change the perception of people.  And yes, its sometimes unfair.. But people lot of times respond/ react in life based on perceptions.. And perceptions are not reality.  
   
 Just like some people perceive me as a white, racist guy... Far from the truth.. I just get a chuckle out of it...

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I know both Ladies and Guy's who choose not to see people that have a history of seeing TS girls.
They believe that there lifestyle puts them at a much higher risk by not practicing safe sex. Whether true or not they just do not want to take the chance of putting themselves at a greater risk.
 
Anyone that thinks people are always going to be truthful about there sexual history would be very naive to just take someones word on it. In this hobby you can never be to safe and after all no one is going to look out for your safety like you would for your self.

"Sharing is caring."

Sometimes high-volume is indeed a turnoff. But sometimes it casts a provider into specialty bucket list, the "do a legend" list. For me it's probably what the top-10 providers list is for others. For example: Pepsi in LA K-town.

Low volume sometimes leave me with a wary feeling.

How I ever find anybody I like amazes me.
But I do. Then repeat until bored.
Instead of taking a limo I sometimes decide to hit the bar, hitchhike, and settle for whatever pickup stops for my thumb. Usually it's not a late model, out of tune, time, gas, and luck, and running two quarts low.

When Sirens sing Come on Back To Beer I curse the day I said no to the beeswax.

Some of us think "Ick" if too many of either.  

Some of us think "Ick" if not enough of either.

My "Ick" kicks in when I ask for a reference and I get a phone number and/or a link to a BP ad that has some scurvy crack head looking selfie post offering HH and car service.  All systems abort at that point.

We like to say we're not a judgmental crowd. I personally think we were just all raised Catholic.  :-)  

Posted By: MasterZen
So Caitlyn's thread below got me to thinking about other posts that come up from time to time, and comments I've heard in person from provider and hobbyist alike...  
   
 The question is pretty simple: Is there something about a hobbyist who has seen many, many women, or a provider with many, many reviews, that makes some of us just go "Ick!"?  
   
 Just wondering if the "low volume" mantra applies equally as an attractor for both hobbyist and provider; whether "higher volume" on either side really DOES matter to you? Why?  
   
 Is it really an "Ick!" factor, or is it more of a "risk" factor? Is it just the search for "regulars"? Or is it more? Does it somehow reach into our "true" selves?

HooktardGold1269 reads

A provider with 20 pages of reviews who has been in business for over 10 years, may have only seen 3-4 a month that entire time... here, you can't tell exact dates of when the guy saw her like with other boards. Fact is, a woman can flat out tell guys not to review her making it appear that she is low volume, when she is fkin 5-10 guys a week, every week. That's not low volume in my book, but to others it might be.  

As for the guys... I worry more about WHO he has seen, not how many. Near the end of my time as a provider, I found myself seeing more newbies vs. career hobbyists, and I will say there is a huge difference between the two.

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Clear and understandable, as always!

AnotherDonJohn1323 reads

A known guy in the midst of bashing aliases without reviews just bragged that he's here on ter to "achieve",

That was the exact word he used (since I quoted it) with nothing after it.  

Which I presume he means numbers and maybe quality of women.  

I can't even believe the hubris.

I'm a dick but you can only puff out your chest so much on a f-ckboard as a John.

Seriously.

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But that's never stopped me before. :D

Here's the thing: I don't give a shit how many chicks a dude has banged. Doesn't make a damn bit of difference to me. What does give me the "ickies," however, is the sort of subculture that the review system has created. I typically try to avoid seeing guys who write reviews because I don't like being commoditized or having the size/shape/color/elasticity of my vagina discussed on the internet (among other things). When a guy has written a whole bunch of reviews, I look at it as though he's beating his chest, making sure that everyone knows how many notches he has in his belt. It's just lame to me.  

Now don't get me wrong, I've seen a few TER heavy hitters and had great times with them. I also get along well with guys like Curly who write reviews like they're trying to win a fucking Peabody. It's just not my bag. Doesn't mean they're shirty human beings.

AnotherDonJohn1122 reads

Peabody award aside, which is more a review issue - OT...

In all seriousness, I think it would be hypocritical to judge on volume.  

Rather, I suspect that for the most part, it is probably about the entire gestalt of do you think the guy is a sleaze/loser/ completely detestable IRL or not. Then, beside obvious red flag behavior, we all have personal off-bounds we keep on the lookout for: age, size, kinks, etc.

And if you think he is a gentleman, he will keep his promise.. I will if someone I like asks me not to, but very rarely will I make such a promise....I will may be make it for 3 people on this board..

I look at reviewing as my right to talk about the experience.. It may amuse some of you guys that I make a rough draft of the review before finally posting it...:

"I typically try to avoid seeing guys who write reviews because I don't like being commoditized or having the size/shape/color/elasticity of my vagina discussed"

I could totally understand that, but don't most people ask before writing a review?  I always ask if it's OK, or if it is OK if there's anything they would like omitted.

I don't see reviews as a chest-beating thing, to me it gives others a rough idea of what to expect.  I write reviews more as a favor to others, so they can make more informed choices

AnotherDonJohn1443 reads

Otherwise it would defeat the purpose of ter.

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Real men make up their own damn mind..

Real men also keep promise and their word if they give it to someone..

Amen? :D

Guys usually ask me, because I'm pretty open about my dislike for the explicit stuff, but in general I don't think it's common practice to ask first.

AnotherDonJohn1652 reads

THey had yet to make the official announcement. Oops, there goes the surprise. Lol.
 

Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
Guys usually ask me, because I'm pretty open about my dislike for the explicit stuff, but in general I don't think it's common practice to ask first.

In order of importance:

1) so I can relive the experience from time to time and not have to worry about it being found on my computer (see bus crash thread$

2) so a provider can use them to screen me; if she doesn't like my reviews and screens me out it's a good thing, we are probably not a good fit

3) if feels good to help market a provider that's been good to me, and to steer others to good providers (or warn about bad experiences)

4) and yeah, beating my chest just a little :-)

And let's be honest Tobi, it's at least a little love/hate...you wouldn't have great, verifiable quotes for your ads without the reviews! :-)

Posted By: thehumanist
In order of importance:  
   
 1) so I can relive the experience from time to time and not have to worry about it being found on my computer (see bus crash thread$  
   
 2) so a provider can use them to screen me; if she doesn't like my reviews and screens me out it's a good thing, we are probably not a good fit  
   
 3) if feels good to help market a provider that's been good to me, and to steer others to good providers (or warn about bad experiences)  
   
 4) and yeah, beating my chest just a little :-)  
   
 And let's be honest Tobi, it's at least a little love/hate...you wouldn't have great, verifiable quotes for your ads without the reviews! :-)

... What criteria do you use to counter the number of reviews?

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Eh, I've seen a couple of heavy reviewers based on two criteria: in one case, the guy got a STERLING recommendation from my beloved LR. In another case, the guy was very kind, respectful and just generally cool in my previous communications with him. It's not a hard and fast rule of mine to turn down anyone who writes a bunch if reviews, I just scrutinize them a little harder, I suppose.  

Posted By: xyz23
... What criteria do you use to counter the number of reviews?

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this thread prompted me to go back and read some of my old reviews.  Interestingly I found they read way more dickish than my more recent ones...to the point where I'm a bit embarassed by them.  I don't excuse them by any means, but I think the reality is that I came into this with a much different attitude than I have now.

Well if it's any consolation, I was referring to you in my second example. :)

Posted By: thehumanist
this thread prompted me to go back and read some of my old reviews.  Interestingly I found they read way more dickish than my more recent ones...to the point where I'm a bit embarassed by them.  I don't excuse them by any means, but I think the reality is that I came into this with a much different attitude than I have now.

not all money is good or fun money to make.  

I have had to let go of certain clients after the first meeting as I could not at all fake it! (I would rather not get their money than pretend)

I had a client I have known since 2001... well I am one of the FEW women that would put up with him.  

Then last year, as years have progressed, his hygiene and manners have gotten to the point that I said no more...

yes a ick fact

As I got out of the shower, noticed the pile of about 20 dirty towels under the sink.  And it was only 2pm!

But the girl was clean and fresh and did a great job.  I left with a smile, but will always remember that pile!

and often the best providers are those who have had plenty of practice.

Lord knows I have and I like to think it's made me a better client as a result.

that 100 percent of the men that walk in the dark are being honest anyway.
plenty of times I've had guys come in and tell me they've never done this before or they don't do it often and then they ask for a white list and I see a hundred fifty reviews.
after they just told me they've never done it before or the only do it once in awhile.
I am in a situation where I'm not able to do back to back appointments
and everyone that has seen me or spoken to me about seeing me will know what I am talking about.
I have had a tiny tiny handful say that they think that is especially appealing to them.
and that on the other hand when they go to see a woman in a hotel who is on her game and getting her hustle on that they feel it is of putting because they are treated the way that it is like a client and its in and out.
that's only honestly a tiny tiny handful that is ever even mentioned that they care about having a low-volume experience.
and it has never been the big spenders or the guys that tend to come a lot that claim they love that one on one load volume experience it has been such a small small handful I can count on one hand but never mentions that.
there are actually some guys that love to hear about s***** stories I had an ex boyfriend wants that would love to hear about the s******** story I've ever done.
but you have to tread lightly because then again there are some people that will not want to hear the s******** story of all and it will actually freaked them out,
whatever is going on with me if I am planning on doing two appointments that day I do not care and if they have a problem with it then too bad for them.
and on the other hand if I have nothing else going that day and I'm going to put on my gardeners and thigh highs and just hang out in a roll with my makeup on and wait till they show up whatever time that may be early or late.
then heh that's what I'm doing that day and they can take it or leave it to! :-)
from my experience the guys could care less whether you're high or low volume they want to get in and get out they want to get what they get done done'
I have not had any more or less business because I am low volume'
low volume on a daily basis'
as in I cannot have traffic at my incall
I do try to do the hotel thing from time and time again and it just never works out I never get out of the house on time I end up checking in late and by the time I actually unpack all my neurotic things with me it's usually seven and the next thing you know my fibromyalgia and my back is killing me and I'm fatigued
and then it turns out to be a waste of money and I fall behind
for me getting hotels is just not an option and that's me and me alone and I'm my own person and I do not have to listen to anybody suggestions there is no difference to me between sitting in your house all day or sitting in some empty vacant weird hotel room in the middle of nowhere all day or sitting in an office all day
there is a saying everywhere you go there you are
so'
for me my ex factor would be a regular of mine telling me that last week when he could not see me he went to go see two girls doing doubles for some rates lower than me
I had this one regular since I was 26 asian guy
he was cheap and he would always argue with me'
never the less he came through a couple times for me when my animal is sick and I need to go to the Animal Hospital it was when I had a rabbit
and I had a guinea pig
anyways he was helpful in some ways but in other ways a pain in the neck
so I have known the guy for 6 years now and he came over here and tells me all when you didn't want to meet up with me last week I found these two girls doing a double for 250
or he said something to that effect
I immediately got mad at him and said well you know what that makes me not want to see you because that's gross'
because the guys that are looking for a deal that means they're going around and trying to see as many women as they can
sometimes the guys that are looking for the deal or the cheapest rates to me can be a red flag and make me not want to see them
I also recently noticed that someone got a review and the guy that reviewed um had seen one girl the charges 175 and then he went and seen a girl the charges 700
I thought that was very Rd because I always thought people research to the review our was and if he was seeing women for 175 and they charge 700mb actually didn't want to see him?
I have researched reviewers that have visited women the charge extremely low or look very very sketchy and then I will not see that client
so I suppose that would be my ex factor if I saw a reviewer that was seeing someone a lot lot lower on the totem pole than me that's low low quality yes I would definitely put him in the X Factor and put them on the DN S lis

Like someone said above, I think it's more of a risk factors than an 'ick' factor that's rooted psychologically.  But a provider should treat all clients with the same precaution regardless if they've seen many girls or not.

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