I've had too many NCNS and very late cancellations, even from those I've seen before and who know me.
As a consequence, I've stopped bringing pricey, potentially embarrassing gifts: lingerie, toys, women's clothing, feminine things, etc.. It takes time and effort (and maybe some humiliation!) for a guy (this guy, anyway) to shop for some of that stuff and then to be left "holding the bag" when I have to be someplace else two or three hours later does not work. I've given stuff away to homeless people or "lost" some items on the subway just so I don't have to explain myself when I show up at a meeting with friends or for business later that day or night.
I know that many ladies say that it takes time to prepare for a meeting, whether it's a 1-hour or multi-hour date. SAME FOR US GUYS. We have to fiddle schedules, sometimes travel long distances to an incall, shop!, etc.. A last minute cancellation or NCNS by either party costs more than one hour of inconvenience.
I think there should be a way of alerting others to chronic NCNS or late cancellations even if you can't post a review of a session that never took place. An "NCNS - Cancellation" Board?
I've had last minute cancellations three times in the last month. I'm sick of it. The first one occurred the day before our date after at least 2 wks of prep. Reason: that time of the month. True or False? who can say for sure. The next one occurred TWO HOURS before our date after 2 weeks of prep including booking a hotel for the night, etc. etc. Reason: said her boyfriend (who doesn't know of her extra-curricular activity) changed his work shift. True or False? Again, who can say but the mere fact that she's providing without her SO's knowledge and approval makes for unnecessary complications. And the third one occurred ONE HOUR before the date having made the date the night before and completed everything she asked of me (email the minute you check in, etc.etc.). I emailed her 4:00, voice mailed her at 5:00 and texted her at 6:00. She emails me at 7:00 and says she can't make it happen for our date at 8:00. Every one of these providers stipulate promptness and timely cancellation on their websites yet don't have the courtesy to reciprocate. Thoughts and comments? Especially looking for a provider's perspective.
that they at least took the time to notify you of the cancellation no matter how late. A lot of providers don't show that kind of courtesy.
As far as being upset, just keep in mind what type of activity you're engaged in and what kind of people are involved. This is not the real mainstream world where respect and courtesy are the norm......usually. Shit happens, move on.
It's a pain in the ass. You are aware that t happens on both ends, right? So what thoughts are you looking for, exactly? We live in a world where shit happens. Maybe each of your three providers had a legitimate reason for cancelling and you are having a run of bad luck. Or maybe all three of your providers are unprofessional skanks who don't deserve your time and hard earned dollar. Or maybe something in-between. We can't really know. My only question would be, are they well-reviewed? Does anybody else complain about unprefessional behavior? Of course you can't give somebody a bad review if the date never happens, so I don't know exactly how you'd communicate that stuff.
I will say that the fact they did cancel and did not NCNS is at least a point in their favor, not that I am defending them.
I'm probably just more frustrated than anything but it's like being stood up on a blind date and you just want to know the real reason why; did they not like something they found out about me or is there a black ball network that providers adhere to or what? Sure they could all be legitimate reasons and it's just a string of bad luck but it could also be something more sinister or collaborative. Maybe that's overly paranoid but three times in one month is also a little crazy and seems too coincidental to be real. I wonder how many providers get a better offer at the last minute and use the "it's my time of the month" excuse to blow someone off? Seems pretty convenient to be able to do. Or how many aren't that concerned about the paycheck and just blow you off because a couple of girlfriends decided to throw a tupperware party that night? How really reliable is spending a lot of time making a date well in advance, which most woman request, if it's no more productive than just making a last minute request. Anyhow, just looking for any insight that might be out there (if there is any at all).
Well as for #1, that happens. It's a real pain in the ass but a fact of life. Sometimes it's a few days early and just makes a mess (no pun intended) of things.
For #2, that's entirely possible but I would say that if someone you want to see has a SO you should be comfortable that the SO knows what she does and is totally ok with it otherwise there could be drama at worst or what happened to you in a lesser case.
Can't say much about #3 other than it sounds like a bit of flakey business...
It happens to us too!! ALOT more than 3 times a month. I usually am understanding of the millions of excises Ive heard. I have a 2 strike rule and usually the well meaning clients will "make it up" to me somehow.
It is upsetting, and in your case costly because of the prep work, hotel etc...I assure you we are NOT all "shady women of society" as one of your responses implied. Things DO happen...however, people are people and I assure you it happens to the best of us!!
I guess all we have is reviews and our word...We dont get the luxury of "reviews" of our clients GOOD LUCK IN THE FUTURE!
Right, but you do have DNS lists, the PO board, and other ways of sharing info about lousy clients. The reality is, this "business" has lots of sketchy people on both sides of the transaction. That's just the way it is. Complaints like this come up all the time and it's fine to vent if it makes you feel better. But it won't change a thing, human nature being what it is.
Blacklists, provider OK's and references, reviews do not cover NCNS or last second cancellations at all those thing I listed do to some degree. We are on our own when it comes to the professionalism of the ladies we see unless we back-channel, and you ladies do that as well. All reviews are good for is judging a ladies menu, if she is legit, and her attitude, not much more.
I empathize with you in the inability to review your clients. I wish TER would allow reviews to go both ways. It would make for a more comprehensive approach in evaluating the rating system to know that the hobbyist that gave the poor review/rating was either way out in left field, just having a bad day, had his own scale of quality, or any number of reasons; and vica-versa for the good ratings. The more information provided the more we are able to temper those evaluations and make more informed judgements.
I call bullshit on that one. We are supposed to be nice and all, but we're the ones paying for the service. Did you miss that somehow? So maybe we should also have chefs and waiters reviewing diners, or movie producers reviewing audiences ("They just don't understand me!"). I mean, please!
Not all of us are stuck on games. If a provider has cancelled on you several times then its best that you move on to someone who cares. I believe in promptness and cancel any appointment that is more than 10 minutes late without calling and I give my clients that same respect. I too have had to cacell appointments at the last minute do to an emergency, but I always showed up for the rebooking, and I've always made it up to them. Anything less than that is pure game!
and your rant is understandable. Best to just move on, and try and forget about it asap. Trying to figure out escorts, will leave you scratching your head forever. And as you can see from some of the posts by the ladies, the feel the same way about hobbyist who do the same thing to them.
hiddenhills and inicky46; you guys have a lot of experience between you while I am an absolute novice in comparison, has this kind of discourtesy happened to you? And if so many times?
I'm not remotely in the same category as HH. And my posts on this thread were not even directly on your topic. But, since you asked, my guess is you just had a run of bad luck. Maybe you should try seeing either very well reviewed providers or don't plan so far in advance, if that's possible where you live. Then if she bails on you, you won't be so disappointed. It's also good to have a backup plan, although double-booking is not, repeat not, the way to go unless you want to get on every girl's DNS list. Just know who's around and, if you still have several hours leeway, call someone else. I don't know. It's a tough one. But, no, I have never been stood up like that, though in time I probably will be. Once, when I booked doubles, one of the girls got sick and called me a couple of hours beforehand. I just saw the other gal solo. Hey! That's it! Always book doubles! Worst case, you get two gals! All it takes is money! Lots of it! Anyway, good luck and keep playin' the game!
He's been with Nikki Avalon and Kiwigirl. I'm sorry, but I'm not as wise as to the other lady he saw, but they all got great scores from him and all of them whitelisted him. Some ladies do that cuz you ask, some cuz you deserve it whether or not you ask for it.
I hope he's a victim of bad luck, is all. The deal about aunt flo coming to town, I would've said 'So? Think it would be the first time?' The deal about the SO changing his schedule is horseshit. LIE!!!
If he doesn't know what she does, that's their problem. She lies to his dumbass all the time, just in the fact he doesn't know what she does with her 'extracurricular activities'. Fucking hypocrite, and she deserves to get busted by him. Make her own up to what she does and who she is. Can't respect or appreciate each other if you're living a lie.
Oh, BTW. That goes for the guys, too. I'm an equal opportunity asshole!
The third one? Fucking flake. Be a good hobby brother and PM me and others as to who she is and her fucked up sense of business practice.
Yeah, he got fucked. And not in a good way. But at least he can turn us on to this shit, and we for him. Know what I'm sayin'?
What comes around, goes around. We're ALL reviewed and scrutinized to some extent. Talked about in back-channel, put on a DNS list, WTF difference does it make?
When you fuck up, you fuck up. By who's standards...?
I would believe the first scenario because I had a similar problem. Those damn periods come at the worst times! I think the second scenario is less professional and questionable. And finally the third one would enrage me if I was in your situation.
On a rare occasion when I have to cancel or postpone or etc. I feel guilty because I take what I do seriously. I have had people cancel on me and I know what an annoyance it is, therefore I try to refrain from cancelling on others.
I've had too many NCNS and very late cancellations, even from those I've seen before and who know me.
As a consequence, I've stopped bringing pricey, potentially embarrassing gifts: lingerie, toys, women's clothing, feminine things, etc.. It takes time and effort (and maybe some humiliation!) for a guy (this guy, anyway) to shop for some of that stuff and then to be left "holding the bag" when I have to be someplace else two or three hours later does not work. I've given stuff away to homeless people or "lost" some items on the subway just so I don't have to explain myself when I show up at a meeting with friends or for business later that day or night.
I know that many ladies say that it takes time to prepare for a meeting, whether it's a 1-hour or multi-hour date. SAME FOR US GUYS. We have to fiddle schedules, sometimes travel long distances to an incall, shop!, etc.. A last minute cancellation or NCNS by either party costs more than one hour of inconvenience.
I think there should be a way of alerting others to chronic NCNS or late cancellations even if you can't post a review of a session that never took place. An "NCNS - Cancellation" Board?
I've had too many NCNS and very late cancellations, even from those I've seen before and who know me.
As a consequence, I've stopped bringing pricey, potentially embarrassing gifts: lingerie, toys, women's clothing, feminine things, etc.. It takes time and effort (and maybe some humiliation!) for a guy (this guy, anyway) to shop for some of that stuff and then to be left "holding the bag" when I have to be someplace else two or three hours later does not work. I've given stuff away to homeless people or "lost" some items on the subway just so I don't have to explain myself when I show up at a meeting with friends or for business later that day or night.
I know that many ladies say that it takes time to prepare for a meeting, whether it's a 1-hour or multi-hour date. SAME FOR US GUYS. We have to fiddle schedules, sometimes travel long distances to an incall, shop!, etc.. A last minute cancellation or NCNS by either party costs more than one hour of inconvenience.
I think there should be a way of alerting others to chronic NCNS or late cancellations even if you can't post a review of a session that never took place. An "NCNS - Cancellation" Board?
I suggest that if a lady has an incall, you are out a lot less if the meeting is cancelled. If the room is to be rented just for your meeting, (I've had the lady meet me at a coffee shop to be sure I was there before getting the room) but if the room is just for your meeting it is correct to REIMBURSE the lady in cash... Room is in her name, NO TRACKS, no risk of being stood up. Typically contact the day of the meeting should be all the confirmation you need... no excuse for case #3 flaking on you.
I have had a long scheduled meeting with my ATF... I called as usual from the highway, once I was past the city & could give an ETA. She picked up... was out of town because of a sudden death in her family. She could not talk as there were others in the car, she actually did not tell me of the full reason until our next meeting. (I did book with another lady the following day... I was a little miffed but then felt like a jerk when I found out the real reason. She was off her game for many months after this.)
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