Looking at another thread made me share my experience in this separate thread -- that thread has too much drama going on....
One of the providers I'd seen a number of times raised her rates quite a bit. When she kept contacting me after she'd raised her rates, I asked her, nicely of course, if her new rates applied to me. She replied in the negative, stating that i was good at old rates. However, I increased my donation from the old rate and was still at 0.5X of her new rate. One can only imagine the rate increase that she'd had, nearly 250%.
Saw her a few times hence but it seems that the quality of session is no longer there. The last experience was so terrible that I have decided not to set up another appointment anymore. I have plenty of other options at the rate that I pay her. Just had a good vibe with her but I guess that all good things have to end sometime.
I guess one should count oneself to be lucky when session quality remains the same even when GF rates are offered. My experience suggests that its better to either pay the regular rate or no visit at all. This also means that now I'm hesitant to respond to providers who have raised their rates quite a bit after my visits, if it means that the rate exceeds my rate range that I've set for myself.
Am sure people might have mixed experiences but curious if there are more negative ones than positive...
There's a reason your pants were designed to carry your wallet in the back pockets. That reason was to keep your dick away from it.
Women eventually always want more money. First encounters are usually the best.
She came from a small town and charged a rate about a third of what she was worth. I always tipped her more, but even then she was a bargain and a half.
In due time she came to know her worth, and started to charge a rate commensurate with that.
She did grandfather me at her old rate, but to tell the truth, I felt uncomfortable with that and feared she would soon become resentful, and so stopped seeing her altogether. Paying her full rate was just not an option for me.
I guess that's sort of quitting when you're ahead.
was a little different. I was grandfathered in and luckily, the service remained the same, but after three sessions at the grandfathered rate, I started getting a high rate of cancellation on the sessions I had booked. Obviously, if she got a customer paying the new rate that wanted the same time I had booked, I was being bumped in favor of the guy paying more. Can't blame her, its business, but it put me off of continuing to see her. I know I had the option to pay the higher rate, but as with the OP's scenario, I think she went too high relative to her looks and service, so it was time to go elsewhere.
Nowhere have I mentioned or indicated that she raised her rates - "too high relative to her looks and service" that you mention.
You said, "the service was no longer there" and the last time was "terrible" so that's why you quit going. I agree you didn't mention her looks, but if she was super-hot, like the girls that hang out with the Senator, you might still be going. I think we arrived at the same conclusion, i.e., that you pay the higher rate or pass completely, we just got there via a different path. Try not to be too simple.
It sounds like according to the OP her looks haven't changed, but her service has. That would be enough for me to take a pass on a girl, regardless of her rate or her looks.
I completely disagree that if a woman looks hot enough I will overlook bad service and continue to see her no matter how lousy a session she provides. IMHO nothing is LESS sexy than a hot woman who not only knows how hot she is, but who takes every opportunity to mention just how hot she is. Women like that make me want to roll them over, fuck them in the ass, shoot my load all over their hair and then wipe my dick on her curtains on my way out the door without saying so much as a word as the door closes behind me. lmao
My point is that I have no basis to support your statement:
"...but as with the OP's scenario, I think she went too high relative to her looks and service, so it was time to go elsewhere."
and never indicated that it applied in my scenario. I don't care about the rates of providers. I contact ones that are in my budgeted range and my desired type.
So, am not sure what you're trying to correct.
I mentioned about the quality of service (as GaG also mentioned) that went downhill. The first time I gave her the benefit of doubt thinking that perhaps it was one of those days. But the second substandard performance led me to decide to end this for good.
when you say stuff like, "I don't care about the rates of providers. I contact ones that are in my budgeted range. . . . ." If you don't care about the rates, why do you limit your search to a certain "budget." You are contradicting yourself. This is why its so hard to follow what you are trying to say.
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Lack of comprehension on your part does not make a subject confusing.
So let me try and explain in simple terms, perhaps that would assist you...
My OP clearly was about GrandFathered rates and service. Nowhere did I mention that rates were far beyond what she should have been at. And while sharing your experience (in which your gal raised her rates beyond her looks and service , your words, not mine), you included my situation. and I disagree with that.
When you got corrected, you started looking at other things and blaming others for your confusion. Standard M.O. of yours it seems....
I merely quoted you. You haven't explained how your statement that "you don't care about provider rates" is not contradictory to "I contact providers in my budget range." If rates are irrelevant to you, why do you need a budget range? I know many guys who also don't care about provider rates. If the rate is $10,000 for a weekend, it has no bearing on whether they would choose her over a girl at $5000 or one at $20,000. The only questions they ask is whether she's slender, and how great is her rack. Nobody (that I know) likes fat girls, but everybody loves great tits. So for these guys, they have no budget . . . . because the rate truly doesn't matter. I just find it confusing that you have a budget limit, but you also contend you don't care about rates. They are mutually exclusive statements, and you can't have it both ways. It just makes you look not very bright, IMO, which I'm sure is not the impression you want to give here.
I will continue seeing a favorite provider at the "grandfathered" rate as long as she is comfortable with it and the level of our encounters stays as good as it has been. As I tend to repeat with faves, they know they can depend on me continuing to see them as long as all good things are good.
Once the experience takes a nosedive (for whatever reason), I find another playmate.
A good p4p experience is a two-way street, after all...
Well, I did see her several times but as I mentioned - There are bunch of options at my rate range and i do not want a sub-standard session.
So far the experience shared by people has not been encouraging for sessions under grand-fathered rates.
Hopefully, more people can share their experience.
I have been grandfathered with a few ladies that I see. No issues whatsoever. Frankly, though if a lady does raise her rates and doesn't grandfather the odds that I will see her again are very low. Personally, I love it when a lady grandfathers me because that gives me a lot more flexibility to pay for performance ... or tip her the difference or more between her old and new rate based on performance. I see a lot of ladies rates coming down vs. going up, particularly for the $500 and above ladies. A lot more "available now ads" or discounts offered even with top providers.
worked for you and that is great.
Some did raise their rates and perhaps are in a Catch-22 situation. Raising rates could affect volume which in turn might lead to higher rates... and that is a debate that goes on and on as to what the right approach is.
Yeah, I recently contacted a touring provider who posted on another site that she'd be in my town soon. After agreeing on a time and date, I inquired about rates since she doesn't have a website any more and occasionally has specials. She quoted me a new higher rate (a 25% bump from last time I saw her). She's a cool chick and a nice lay, but that's now twice what my local faves ask. I just won't let the little head do the thinking (THIS time).
Are you sure that you are not incorrectly assuming that the quality of the sessions got worse because of the rate increase vs. something else? Maybe the first session or few sessions she was performing her best because 1) she was trying to move you up to longer date (from a 1hr/90 min to a multi-hour) or 2) maybe she just became too comfortable with you and assumed that you were easy to please/left happy because you never communicated what you wanted? I haven't seen the quality of sessions deteriorate when a lady grandfathers me at a lower rate. However, I have seen the quality of a few of my sessions deteriorate a little form one of the two above reasons.
That sort of rate increase - especially if it is all at once - seems very extreme. How could a lady be that mis-priced? I could see a $50-$100 rate increase or something incremental, but a 250% rate increase seems crazy. Was it $300 to $700? $400 to $1K? I've only ever seen something like that happen with an agency girl that went independent - and dropped some serious coin a best-in-class website w/amazing pics, videos, and some phenomenal marketing.