Hey all, I hope this hasn't happened to anyone, but suppose you accidentally got an escort pregnant, either via a broken condom or some other means.  What would an escort do in that situation?  Pre-emptive thanks for your thoughts!

You're asking what a provider would do if she got pregnant?  That's a bit too personal really and frankly none of your business.  

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Probably get an abortion, unless there was such a massive financial incentive to keep the baby that it would make sense. Think Steve Bing or Donald Trump, nothing less.

Impregnation involves 2 parties; in his scenario a provider & a hobbyist.

Assuming BAArunner55 is the other party (or at least concerned about being the other party), his/her question has, IMHO, merit. (faced with a potential paternity issue I think many hobbyists would want to know the possibilities)

If YOU personally don't want to answer, that it ok. But others may see it differently.





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I would have an abortion.

Getting pregnant by a client would be a nightmare

One kid is enough for me. I don't want (or need) another one.

I agree that an abortion would be in order.
I would venture to say, most of the ladies would agree.
Remember, most hobbyists are either married or have SO's. Most providers would not want a stranger to bear their child. It just makes sense.

Lets not let something like life interfer with a hobby.

I'm sorry.  I guess I'm just old fashioned. Yes, even an old ho can be old fashioned.  I just think that is a very personal question and something that should be between the provider and the hobbiest.  Yes, you men may have intiment knowledge of our bodies, but I don't think that entitles you to know how we would treat an pregnancy. Now of course there are some women that don't mind publicly saying that yes they would abort or keep. I guess I'm the minority here. JMHO

You are dealing with human beings.  Each one individual with different ideas and thoughts.  One provider may choose to "take the morning after pill," while another may choose to go ahead with the pregnancy and not tell the hobbiest, another may give up the child for adopt, while another may contact the hobbiest.

It depends on each provider's feeling about the subject.  

I'm sure that most providers have given this some thought and many take birth control just for this reason.

Sorry I can't be of more help, but I don't think anyone really can speak for anyone but themselves.

Asking something as personal as this question is like asking what is your favorite song or movie. Everyone will have a different answer and no one will be wrong.

b-

Like Sinful said, "You are dealing with human beings" - but I think most people think they are dealing with just 2 human beings, the Mother and Father.  The third one can't speak for themselves.

Having said that, your favorite song or movie isn't going to banned from the earth, if you don't want it.  Or if some else don't want it.

People ask the most personal of questions here all the time. This question doesn't even make the top ten of intrusive questions in my book.

If you don't want to answer, there is a simple solution. DON'T

You know you're right...since it takes two and by the gist of your post you do not favor abortion (correct me if I am wrong) so how would a guy feel carrying the "person" to term?

It could concievably happen(implanting fetus into abdomen and the right hormones/blood supply etc...bingo delivery date 9 months from whenever via open incision in said abdomen.

If the daddys object to abortion ...carry it yourselves.

GA.I am assuming you are referring to me with your post since it is below mine.  I never said it wasn't a valid question. If I choose not to answer it, I didn't realize that prevented me from making any comment whatsoever on it. If you feel this doesn't even make the top ten most intrusive questions in your book, good for you. I did not answer the question. I posted my opinion on the question. Last time I checked I was an American citizen and able to practice free speech. I also dont appreciate the caps. Merry Christmas.

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"You're asking what a provider would do if she got pregnant?  That's a bit too personal really and frankly none of your business."

Your words, not mine. You seemed to be speaking for providers in general not yourself in particular. You are free to voice any opinion you have, just remember, so am I.

One other point, if a single word in caps offends you, you might need to grow a thicker skin.

Merry Christmas to you too

we have the right, no we have the obligaton to force you to carry the baby to term, regardless of the circumstances of the conception or the consequences to the mother.

Ooops, wait a second. Never mind, I am neither a Christian, nor do I believe any of the bullshit I just spouted. It does actually sound pretty stupid when you say it out loud doesn't it?

Sorry everybody, I'll confine these opinions to the P&R board in the future. I just couldn't help myself

I'd abort it..
But im not a dummy and do birth control as well.

Id never contact the hobbyist.. why would I ruin someone elses life for  my own stupidity ?





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Why seemingly intelligent young women would not avail themselves of all the protection that was available to them. I would cetainly hope that many if not most women would have your sensible approach.

I know that as a man I am only at risk for disease and not pregnacy, but if there was a pill that I could take as a back up to condom use I would be an idiot to not take it.

I guess that we are assuming one would know he was the father. Which, by itself, begs the answer:

He must have been bbfs and he was the only one she had sex with for a period of time.  Which escort in her right mind is not using birth control especially if she is letting the guy leave the little swimmers inside her.

I'm confused as this seems a moot point. Most providers I know are either "fixed" or using some form of protection (and I don't mean the rhythm method). And we just had a discussion on the Minnesota board regarding the use of covers vs. some providers offering BBF as an up-sell. Despite this tantalizing option, the hobbyist majority seemed to favor the use of covers because of the risks. That's double coverage.  Perhaps we should make vasectomys a pre-requisite to entering the hobby. LOL

Look at the providers quotes again:

"You're asking what a provider would do if she got pregnant?  That's a bit too personal really and frankly none of your business."

Last time I checked a pregnancy involves two people; potentially it could involve a hobbyist.

So it seems like a valid topic for a hobbyist to bring up on this discussion board.  

So I am for free speech not just her version of it.

I'm sure most would seek an abortion and not tell the guy what happened.  But it would come down to the personal beliefs of that provider.

Please explain what you said. Why would he have been bbfs? He posed the question hypothetically but you shouldn't assume.

Condoms do slip, spill, and tear. Her back up to prevent pregnancy would be birth control. Some women do have a hard time taking the pill, but there are so many different options now.

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I understand her as saying it was too personal for herself to divulge, and an affront to be asked. "A provider" I think was rhetorical, to mean "this provider."

Perhaps most the ones who feel this way have chosen to lurk on this thread. I am surprised that providers haven't flamed it more.

If I were to get pregnant, I would have the child, and welcome the child with a great deal of love. Chances are I would never tell the father because that would raise questions of custody, support etc that I would neither want nor need. If the father did become aware that I was pregnant, and that he is the father, I still wouldn't expect him to take a role in the child's life unless he chooses to.

But that is just me. Every woman's situation is different.

Come on folks, we are all adults here ! how many Thai girls allow themselves to have the baby they have concieved by a farlang, that they may not be sure which one ? not many, I can tell you, Some of us tend to forget, that the Thai girls (bless) are just as much a modern woman as their european counterparts, and i am sure know more about birth control (AND ways not to carry through the pregnancy), than them. All in all, they are not only careful about contraception, but ultra clean too, you got to admire them. * Oh, get me a seat on the next flight to bkk !

either here or on the canine board. A provider posted requesting advice because she had missed her period for 2 months running. This despite her being on the pill and the mandatory use of covers. She was considering notifying the potential father to see how he wanted to be involved. The notion that we pay them to go away afterward was pretty much invalidated in this case.

 However it turned out that she was ill not pregnant, so the thread turned to supporting her in dealing with her illness.

 Prior to that most hobbyists were pretty astonished that she would even consider involving one of them in the pregnancy.

 In all states that I know of, in a situation like this, the father is on the hook for child support and in many a college education for the child. When it comes to finding someone to pay for the child, he state cares not at all the circumstances of conception. As for proving parentage, in at least some states, where they have the interest in forcing child support the state can compel DNA testing of the child, mother, and list of perspective fathers.

Another thing to consider when BBFS is offered.
-J

To quote the original poster

"but suppose you accidentally got an escort pregnant, either via a broken condom or some other means."

Seems pretty clear to me. As for as paternity, assuming it was a broken condom, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to assume that would be a rather rare occurence.

Not your point about birth control, noone ever stipulated that she was a smart provider

True, your right. I've seen BBFS ads and they make me cringe. Hopefully, the majority of hobbyists are smarter than that.

since this pursuit is outside the law, can a provider legally have the father of her child compelled to provide support, since the conception of the child was the consequence of an illegal [even though consensual] act?

My guess is yes, reasoning [?] by analogy to criminal law, where persons convicted of a crime can still sue for excessive use of police force, etc..

But I'm curious, for the legal professionals out here, what general principles of law apply, and is there a body of case law dealing specifically with this question?

You don't need a lawyer to answer this one...if a woman gets pregnant she can put down the name of the father on the birth certificate...if a man wants to contest it, he has to submit his DNA. If he doesn't then she can name him the father and ask for child support.

That being said, I'm not saying I would agree with it, but that's the law...

NOW I have to add the lady said SHE wouldn't answer...she didn't say No other  provider could answer.

Lighten up it's the holidays!

I don't remember the state. Perhaps Kentucky, it was a southern state. An of age babysitter had sex with a 12 year old boy who was entrusted to her care. She became pregnant. She was charged and convicted of sexual assault, sexual molestation of a minor, and a number of other related charges. She went to prison for 3 years.

  The state pursued the, by now 13 or 14 year old for child support. The defense was that as the victim of a sexual assault and as a minor he was not responsible. The state secured a judgment for child support. The child and his family appealed. When last I heard about this case it was up for appeal and probably headed for the state supreme court.

  Like I said above, when it comes to finding someone to pay for the child, the state cares not a whit about the circumstances of conception.

-J


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I just drove to Planned Parenthood and paid $25 for some emergency birth control (RU-486). problem solved. Now I always wear a feminine sponge. This works in two ways: it keeps longer tools from bruising my cervix (I'm a bit shallow) and protects from any accidents.

It's always good to have a Plan B.

If you get an escort pregnant through choosing to have unprotected sex with her, you are fucked in a bad way. At least in CA. Having unprotected sex means you understand and accept that the female can conceive and, should she do so, implies consent to your prospective role as co-parent.

In a few other states it has been successfully argued that having sex with a prostitute allows for autonomy of the male figure, even should the lady conceive, since the very reason for seeking out prostitutes in the first place is to have anonymous sexual encounters with no social, emotional or financial repercussions.

Basically, you won't owe the escort child support in Alabama, but you will be paying child support in California until the kid graduates college.

Just strap it on and you shouldn't have too many worries. Broken condoms are rare. I've busted two in nine years.

It would give me the child I've always wanted without the same fallout as having an affair.  

"Yes, dear, I know you said you wanted a puppy, but this better! And we have built-in nanny."