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OP was about abusive pimp's i.e. "Gorilla Pimps" which are the stereotypical pimp in the eyes of the uneducated masses.
PIMPING IS NOT A LEGAL TERM - read that 100 times.
Then down the thread an asinine comment was made hijacking this into a legal realm. Attached was a link to a recent California Supreme Court Ruling on existing Pandering Law wgich has not one fucking thing to do with the idioting assertion that legally everyone who assists a prostitute is a pimp. Hell! that's pure bullshit even on a conseptual level.
marikod, this post is not directed in any insulting way to you at all! I think if you research that ruling you will see that Mr. Trick is full of shit. 
HH
What are you??? Some right-wing religious fundamentalist running for office on a morality platform? Some facist christian prosecuting attorney??? How old are you???
That statement is ludicrous. Give it a deep think.
The single mom provider does outcall only. Her next door neighbor is her friend and knows. She's supportive of the mom. She loans her a car for a few days while the mom's car is in the shop, to assist the mom for her outcalls. Neighbor friend is now a pimp??????
Upscale high-dollar provider is low-volume and has a busy life. Her weathy clientelle have nary the time nor the inclination to play the leave-a-message-wait-for-callback routine. Uspcale hires and trains a personal assistant, who is employed on a salary, to make upscale's business and personal matters go smoothly. Assistant takes all calls, screens, and makes appointments. Assistant is now a pimp???
Come on!
HalfHour
"I'm rubber and you're glue, that bounced off me and stuck to you" ??????????
It's actually neither, and why are you hiding your TER handle?
We dont know anything about each other personally, only the word that one posts. I've yet to see anything intellegent written by you to establish your point of view.
I don't beleive I am right about all things, but and my viewpoints DO change if I learn something new that corrects my existing knowledge. Which in this case is many years experience in some areas that I will not divulge on this board. Suffice it to say I am anything but nieve; believe what you will.
But right here, right now, I'm waiting for something, ANYTHING remotely intellegent to be written by you. So you have any information to offer, anything that demonstrates some measure of critical thinking skills?
Seriously. Let's hear it!
HH
Thank you! That is sincere. Great post.
I think you make a very strong argument there. Legally if an personal assistant (like the example I gave) was arrested and charged with pandering based on the facts he/she handled the booking, I believe that prosecution would pressnt that argument, and possibly prevail. Good defense would have to show all of the other "assitant" duties and assert their client had no knowledge of the true nature of the appointments.
Such would be a very interesting case, and would likely help define the interpretion of the pandering laws.
My example of an assistant was given with the idea of a true employer/employee relationiship which I have witnessed on limited occasions. The experienced truly independant high dollar call girl, who has another woman answer the phone and simply sets appointments, run references, etc. where the lady gives the final OK. The assistant works for no one else, does all the legwork, lady doesn't want to be bothered by it and the scenario works.
It's not overly common but it does exist. The arrangemeny is secretarial in nature, with no shift in power. That example would be tough to put into a pimp catagory, either morally or legally as I see.
From my experience, when a booker is scheduling several women, would have to say you're comments are spot on. There is much more pimping in those situations than is commonly acknowledged.
THANK YOU AGAIN for a well thought out ans well written response!
HH
And tell me something I don't know. 
Of course there will be some girls who are pimped, any idiot knows that. Also, I agree pimps do a good job brain washing the girls.
However, just because a girl was abused and runs for her daddy does not mean you shouldn't attempt to help.
"She'll run for daddy so just forget about helping" = While it might be true it's still a bullshit logic. Even on general principle, it's a bs logic.
I do have a distaste for abusive pimps. It would be relieving to kick the shit out of them every chance I get.
Also, I know most of my ATFs quite well and know for a fact that they aren't pimped. No room for an abusive middle man anywhere at least not in the range I see.
Well last year in a certain area, information started to surface that a few providers who were popular with clients worked for a really abusive pimp. This resulted in the providers being "black balled" (in a good way) to the point, they quit touring this area which made the pimp a lot of money.
To make a long story short.
Have you ever refused to see a provider, because you found out she was working for an abusive pimp? Or
If you did find out a provider you enjoyed seeing was in this situation, would you continue to have sessions with her? Knowing her situation, and where & who the money is going to.
You know, the good ones. Who wear the white hats.
To answer your questions:
I won't book circuit girls -- they're all pimped
I won't book AMPS -- they're all pimped
I won't book foreign girls -- they're probably pimped
I won't book through agencies -- they take too big of a cut, too much risk
I book indy women, unless they have a SO or husband I know of, then I won't book. I don't care if they have a female assistant.
I do try to find strippers who are ready to 'come over to the dark side.'
What providers do with their money is not my business, but if there appears to be pimpage involved, I won't book.
I am only interested in seeing providers who CHOOSE to be in this line of work, and enjoy their choice. If they say they do, and how they act and present themselves matches that, then I'm OK.
There is no guarantee that I am not somehow contributing to a bad situation, but I earnesty try to avoid doing that.
HalfHour