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astrofan 2 Reviews 4281 reads
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"There's a saying that goes: 'being early is being on time, being on time is being late, and being late is unacceptable.'"

This is plain stupid.

Later in the same review, "I wanted her to show me what she was all about and meet, if not exceed, my expectations."

What is she, the Cheesecake Factory?

Silly.

Posted By: astrofan
"There's a saying that goes: 'being early is being on time, being on time is being late, and being late is unacceptable.'"  
   
 This is plain stupid.  
   
 Later in the same review, "I wanted her to show me what she was all about and meet, if not exceed, my expectations."  
   
 What is she, the Cheesecake Factory?

The last part, is not so uncommon, but why would "being on time be considered late?"

It's just a saying. Not to be taken literally.

It's hard to time things to make sure the client is exactly on time.
Imo, texting of the room number should be done 5-10 minutes before the date so he can get there on time.

I'm not a second/time pincher, but being 5-10 minutes late is unacceptable for me, even if she makes up for it.

Posted By: London Rayne
The last part, is not so uncommon, but why would "being on time be considered late?"

Posted By: Businesses
I'm not a second/time pincher, but being 5-10 minutes late is unacceptable for me, even if she makes up for it.
May I suggest not seeing the incredibly high rated Nikki Avalon?

And if the shoe were on the other foot? Things happen, and 5-10 minutes just isn't that big of a deal for me. I can't imagine finding it "unacceptable even if she makes up for it". There are few things on this earth that can't wait five minutes, so maybe wording, maybe perspective. But either way I think it's a little much to mention a 5-10 minute wait in reviews in the way that some do, as if it detracted that much from the experience.  

Posted By: Businesses
It's just a saying. Not to be taken literally.  
   
 It's hard to time things to make sure the client is exactly on time.  
 Imo, texting of the room number should be done 5-10 minutes before the date so he can get there on time.  
   
 I'm not a second/time pincher, but being 5-10 minutes late is unacceptable for me, even if she makes up for it.  
   
Posted By: London Rayne
The last part, is not so uncommon, but why would "being on time be considered late?"

I gotta go with Business on this one.

That 5-10 minutes, if it's consistent with a gal, leads to the assumption that, for whatever reason, she doesn't care enough to manage her time.  And may indicate that she isn't getting her prior fuck session over quick enough to accommodate the next john.  

Some people are anal about respecting time.  I happen to be one of them.  Too many hookers however seem to think their time is more important, and the john will simply wait.

My rates aren't cheap...frankly higher than most (if not all) of the hookers here.  And if I couldn't manage my time properly, well, I suspect the word gets around and less clients would have an interest in my talents.

And I actually do have some degrees on the wall  :D

Posted By: OhCharlie
And if the shoe were on the other foot? Things happen, and 5-10 minutes just isn't that big of a deal for me. I can't imagine finding it "unacceptable even if she makes up for it". There are few things on this earth that can't wait five minutes, so maybe wording, maybe perspective. But either way I think it's a little much to mention a 5-10 minute wait in reviews in the way that some do, as if it detracted that much from the experience.  
   
Posted By: Businesses
It's just a saying. Not to be taken literally.  
     
  It's hard to time things to make sure the client is exactly on time.  
  Imo, texting of the room number should be done 5-10 minutes before the date so he can get there on time.  
     
  I'm not a second/time pincher, but being 5-10 minutes late is unacceptable for me, even if she makes up for it.  
     
Posted By: London Rayne
The last part, is not so uncommon, but why would "being on time be considered late?"

Ugh CPA I want to agree with you so badly

but it's so hard when you keep making asshole comments like the last one...

 
You're right you're right some girls don't respect others time. This is true, lol!
 

Posted By: ChgoCPA
I gotta go with Business on this one.  
   
 That 5-10 minutes, if it's consistent with a gal, leads to the assumption that, for whatever reason, she doesn't care enough to manage her time.  And may indicate that she isn't getting her prior fuck session over quick enough to accommodate the next john.    
   
 Some people are anal about respecting time.  I happen to be one of them.  Too many hookers however seem to think their time is more important, and the john will simply wait.  
   
 My rates aren't cheap...frankly higher than most (if not all) of the hookers here.  And if I couldn't manage my time properly, well, I suspect the word gets around and less clients would have an interest in my talents.  
   
 And I actually do have some degrees on the wall  :D  
   
Posted By: OhCharlie
And if the shoe were on the other foot? Things happen, and 5-10 minutes just isn't that big of a deal for me. I can't imagine finding it "unacceptable even if she makes up for it". There are few things on this earth that can't wait five minutes, so maybe wording, maybe perspective. But either way I think it's a little much to mention a 5-10 minute wait in reviews in the way that some do, as if it detracted that much from the experience.    
     
Posted By: Businesses
It's just a saying. Not to be taken literally.    
       
   It's hard to time things to make sure the client is exactly on time.    
   Imo, texting of the room number should be done 5-10 minutes before the date so he can get there on time.    
       
   I'm not a second/time pincher, but being 5-10 minutes late is unacceptable for me, even if she makes up for it.    
       
   
Posted By: London Rayne
The last part, is not so uncommon, but why would "being on time be considered late?"

The truth is...I have more than a few.

Not to mention a number of other letters after the name as well.  It's an alphabet of diplomas!

Sorry  :D

No, it's the way you use them to suggest you are better than us, somehow more qualified to garner leeway and respect.

Posted By: ChgoCPA
The truth is...I have more than a few.  
   
 Not to mention a number of other letters after the name as well.  It's an alphabet of diplomas!  
   
 Sorry  :D

Sorry if stating facts is troubling to a few here.  Many of the board assholes have more than one piece of paper...in fact, some of the most insane posters are quite educated.

But FWIW in my business I decided many years ago that I enjoyed learning.  So the fact is that I have accumulated many pieces of paper...some I never used, while others are used daily.

Does it buy me respect?  Nope..it buys me inquiries from people who have problems that I'm qualified to assist with.  It's their option to pay my rates and let me help them.  Based on the referrals I have received over the years I have more than earned many's respect.

But feel free to not respect my educational accomplishments, my business acumen or my personality.

Maybe one day when you run into a serious issue you will understand why people like me do what we do.  And have a touch of arrogance about us.  When you have the bad guys chasing you down, you will want an asshole like me, with all my weapons (as in educational and business accomplishments) on YOUR team.

And on the other side...you don't want to see me stroll into a court room opposing you.  It won't be a fun day for you...but will for me  :D

Posted By: OhCharlie
No, it's the way you use them to suggest you are better than us, somehow more qualified to garner leeway and respect.  
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
The truth is...I have more than a few.  
     
  Not to mention a number of other letters after the name as well.  It's an alphabet of diplomas!  
     
  Sorry  :D

As a senior in high school I had a love of meteorology.  Started doing research on the incomes of typical meteorologist and decided that wasn't going to be my career path.

But I still love it.  And one of my goals in the next few years is to go storm chasing.  You know...to find that perfectstorm  :D

It runs a few thousand for a week...but no guarantees to see a twister.  But it will be fun!

I probably wouldn't have minded if she let me know ahead of time, but she texted me a minute after the appointment time saying that she isn't ready yet, so I had to wait some more.

Since when has being late been the norm?
I don't know about you, but I value punctuality and promptness.

Posted By: OhCharlie
And if the shoe were on the other foot? Things happen, and 5-10 minutes just isn't that big of a deal for me. I can't imagine finding it "unacceptable even if she makes up for it". There are few things on this earth that can't wait five minutes, so maybe wording, maybe perspective. But either way I think it's a little much to mention a 5-10 minute wait in reviews in the way that some do, as if it detracted that much from the experience.  
   
Posted By: Businesses
It's just a saying. Not to be taken literally.  
     
  It's hard to time things to make sure the client is exactly on time.  
  Imo, texting of the room number should be done 5-10 minutes before the date so he can get there on time.  
     
  I'm not a second/time pincher, but being 5-10 minutes late is unacceptable for me, even if she makes up for it.  
     
Posted By: London Rayne
The last part, is not so uncommon, but why would "being on time be considered late?"

The meet and even exceed your expectations might cause me to pause. Did she know what your expectations were to begin with so she at least had a fighting chance? Some gentlemen can build up the session to a point of being almost impossible to live up to.  

If your expectations were that she deliver what you had read in her reviews, I get it. Provided you met her expectation of cleanliness etc.

Yes, she knew it was going to be my first time with a porn star. The date was planned 3 months ahead of time.

Said provider and I have already communicated with each other after the date and she wants to make it up to me on my next visit.

Everything is good... I was just replying to the OP and addressing the issues.
It wasn't that big of a deal, but I still felt the need to include the lateness.

Posted By: justanillusion
The meet and even exceed your expectations might cause me to pause. Did she know what your expectations were to begin with so she at least had a fighting chance? Some gentlemen can build up the session to a point of being almost impossible to live up to.  
   
 If your expectations were that she deliver what you had read in her reviews, I get it. Provided you met her expectation of cleanliness etc.

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but, you sound like you're giving her a yearly corp evaluation...lol... Did she already give you the time on the back end of your session? How much 'making-up' does an escort need to do after starting 5-10 minutes late?  

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I've been in the business world.  The provider world is not the business world.  There are too many things beyond her control.  More than 15 minutes late is not acceptable.  But 5-10 should be no big deal.  You also should not expect the room number more than 5 minutes in advance.  If you have your act together you should already be in the lobby by then.
With your requirements I'd be surprised if you don't suffer a lot of disappointments.

But for you to comment that there are things "beyond her control" is a misnomer.  Everyone has control over their time...just that some decide to not exercise it.

I don't have an issue if a hooker is running late...as I have come to expect such things in this little corner of nirvana.  

But I also find the plethora of hookers who scream how "professional" they are...a complete oxymoron  LOL

Posted By: inicky46
I've been in the business world.  The provider world is not the business world.  There are too many things beyond her control.  More than 15 minutes late is not acceptable.  But 5-10 should be no big deal.  You also should not expect the room number more than 5 minutes in advance.  If you have your act together you should already be in the lobby by then.  
 With your requirements I'd be surprised if you don't suffer a lot of disappointments.

So, we are supposed to control hotel staff, traffic, children, real world jobs, bad hair days, etc? I have waited in the hotel lobby for hours on a room before. Was I supposed to go and physically remove the other guests from their room and clean it myself? Am I to purchase my own personal plane to avoid delayed flights? Get myself a sweet ass SUV and plow through traffic when it inconveniences me?

There is a lot we can't control, that is life, and that's why I don't think 5 minutes is that big of a deal. Is it professional? No, but stuff happens, and that's why I don't think it's fair for some (not businesses specifically, I didn't read his) to make out as if that five minutes ruined the session. No, it was the johns impatience and subsequent unwillingness to let himself have a good time, not the girl needing 5 or 10 extra minutes.  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
But for you to comment that there are things "beyond her control" is a misnomer.  Everyone has control over their time...just that some decide to not exercise it.  
   
 I don't have an issue if a hooker is running late...as I have come to expect such things in this little corner of nirvana.  
   
 But I also find the plethora of hookers who scream how "professional" they are...a complete oxymoron  LOL  
   
Posted By: inicky46
I've been in the business world.  The provider world is not the business world.  There are too many things beyond her control.  More than 15 minutes late is not acceptable.  But 5-10 should be no big deal.  You also should not expect the room number more than 5 minutes in advance.  If you have your act together you should already be in the lobby by then.  
  With your requirements I'd be surprised if you don't suffer a lot of disappointments.

This is a situation where the girl was already in the room and had been there for days! I too am all about being ready on time, but even I do run late when things happen. For instance, shotty internet in some hotels has left a few gents who texted for the room number, waiting because I could not get phone or email service. Other than that, or ripping a stocking, I am rarely late especially with an incall for Pete's sake. We know what time our appts. are, and it is our responsibility to be on time.  

Hate to say it, but if a guy is 30 or more min. late without letting me know until AFTER the appt. time, I just flat out ignore him and he can wonder wtf happened.

It's not too often that a hooker gets a room for only ONE john.  So I don't buy any of your excuse crap.

If it's important enough to someone they'll make sure that all goes as planned.  Otherwise it's the litany of excuses as you are posting.

There's a reason I get paid what I get paid.

And a reason why hookers are called out on the lateness factor over and over.

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Sorry...that was funny.  

 You are not expected to control hotel staff, traffic, children, real world jobs and bad hair days. Nobody can prevent unexpected shit from happening in the first place. But, from a purely professional perspective, if your business involves needing to regularly deal with hotel staff, traffic, children, real world jobs and bad hair days, while you can't make these things not happen, you do need to figure out how to work around them, as gracefully as possible.  

Professionalism requires a certain level of 'magically' making unexpected BS feel, to your clients, like nothing ever happened. That's pretty much how it works. Doesn't matter what business.  

That said...all of this flippin' out over a provider showing up  a few minutes late seems wildly silly. To me.  
A whole lot of agitation over something that, in the larger scheme of things, does not matter that much

Like I said, I probably wouldn't have minded if I was made aware of the delays ahead of time.
Being alerted that she isn't ready a minute after the appointment time is unacceptable.

I'm not a pushover like some guys, nor do I take shit.

Posted By: inicky46
I've been in the business world.  The provider world is not the business world.  There are too many things beyond her control.  More than 15 minutes late is not acceptable.  But 5-10 should be no big deal.  You also should not expect the room number more than 5 minutes in advance.  If you have your act together you should already be in the lobby by then.  
 With your requirements I'd be surprised if you don't suffer a lot of disappointments.

If a person is late at the 15 minute mark and has not called, I consider the date/meeting/dinner/ whatever cancelled. I know a woman who laughs that she is always late and I am talking 30 to an hour. She is not a hooker but thinks it's cute or fashionable to waste other peoples time. And for the most part, if people don't do something, they will continue to get away with it. She does not do that to me after a few times she was left out of things, dinner was started without her etc. etc.

People treat you the way you allow them to treat you.

if any of the providers on this thread who are saying that "5-10 minutes late is not a big deal" have ever had a real, professional job.    

Or if they've even had a non-professional job that involved a time clock.  

Because yea, being 5-10 minutes late is unprofessional, no matter what profession you're in.  I've had more than one boss that would not tolerate it, at least not more than once every blue moon.  No excuses allowed.  And to be late when meeting 'real life' clients could very possibly have cost me very lucrative sales and/or gotten me fired.  

I have NEVER been late getting ready for an incall appointment.  I was late for an outcall appointment ONCE, and then I called him ahead of time and talked to him almost the whole way while I was stuck in traffic.  

If you want the pay that goes along with 'professional' status, then you need to act like a professional, which means being ready on time, if not early.  And if you're not going be on time, then you need to let the guy know AHEAD of time, just like you surely expect from him.  It's a very basic definition of professionalism.

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I actually agree, but if you read the review it was not just the time thing. I really find it amusing that the guy is being given such a hard time by people other than the lady he reviewed! She whitelisted him for fk's sake, and is going to make it up to him!  

The comment about not seeing Nikki Avalon, only further illustrates why scores are so inflated, because if a guy dare give a girl with solid 9s and 10s, anything less, he is berated by the WK committee. The phrase, "Mind your own fking business" is another one I happen to like. Who starts a thread under a brown envelope with no reviews, about another guy's review? Next time I get a 7, I will be sure and call up some of my 10 guys so they can all bitch at him.

Most of the professional jobs that require you to be there for 6:59 for a 7:00 job are only entry level jobs...  

As you move up in the ladder, you are not required to be there at a specific time, but are always required to stay late and get your job done..Of course you are showing up couple of hrs late everyday, that's bad, but within reason all's good.. Unless you work for a news network.. I can't imagine 8:00 news starting at 8:15... LOL Your example is not a very good one...  

I personally don't care if the girl is late 30 min or so for outcall appointment. For incall, I care because I don't want to be seen hanging around suspiciously...  

I do care that you show up with a smile, not gossip about stupid shit and yes.. LISTEN ME TALK :D

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no matter how high up the ladder you are, unless you are the boss running the meeting.  

And if you have an 8:00 meeting with a client or customer, showing up at 8:15 is also a problem.  

And an escort's appointment with a client, is, in fact, a set meeting time.

So, nope, not wrong.  But thanks for playing.

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When I call(ed) a meeting at a specific time....I am the first one there and the last one to leave.

Those who can't abide by those rules don't work for me.

It's a simple formula.  And most have NO problems being there when they should.

Simply a matter of time management...and giving a shit.

Posted By: natashalynne
no matter how high up the ladder you are, unless you are the boss running the meeting.  
   
 And if you have an 8:00 meeting with a client or customer, showing up at 8:15 is also a problem.  
   
 So, nope, not wrong.  But thanks for playing.

but if you are traveling 15-20 miles to attend a meeting... Sure you can be late.. I would be OK with that..

But the folks that work for me can't be late either.

And as for me...well, it's been a long time since I was an employee...but even then anything but "on time" was not acceptable.

And as the owner with clients who are paying serious money for my attention...you better believe that when they want a meeting at a set time...I am there.  NO FUCKING EXCUSES

As natasha pointed out earlier...most hookers have never had a position of responsibility.  Hence it's not a shock to see the tardiness from many for appointments.  And the lackadaisical attitude of those same hookers.

It just screams of NOT GIVING A SHIT.  Fortunately when I have encountered that (and frankly it has been rare)....on to the next one who does GIVE A SHIT.

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
Most of the professional jobs that require you to be there for 6:59 for a 7:00 job are only entry level jobs...  
   
 As you move up in the ladder, you are not required to be there at a specific time, but are always required to stay late and get your job done..Of course you are showing up couple of hrs late everyday, that's bad, but within reason all's good.. Unless you work for a news network.. I can't imagine 8:00 news starting at 8:15... LOL Your example is not a very good one...  
   
 I personally don't care if the girl is late 30 min or so for outcall appointment. For incall, I care because I don't want to be seen hanging around suspiciously...  
   
 I do care that you show up with a smile, not gossip about stupid shit and yes.. LISTEN ME TALK :D

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I am surprised you ever went to grade school...You should have just appeared for CPA exam, and that too is probably beneath your dignity.  

personally wouldn't care if my employee would show up at 8:20 for an 8:00 job, unless I am in retail or some other sector where opening store late would mean direct hit to business...I would care more for quality of work he/she puts in, and not about petty stuff like what time he/she walked in the door..  

Perhaps you have never been to DC area and traveled on I-495, and seen how bad he traffic is around here...  

You should get out of Chicago every once in a while..    

Hey..Ask your home boy Barack Hussein Obama.. Heard he lives somewhere around here.. In 1600 Penn or something....  

 Really don't give a shit if hooker shows up 20 min late..

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with a customer.  

So you're saying that, as a boss, it would be okay with you to have your employees make your customers wait for them?

REALLY???

Sorry - but if you say yes, you're full of shit, and/or a very bad businessman.

I have worked in DC, both for a huge international law firm, and for a "public interest" 501-C-3.  And when we had set meeting times, we were expected to be on time.  Making a Congressman or his staff member wait for you does NOT help one's cause, and make a client wait encourages the client to look elsewhere.

Sure, when there was just office work to be done we could do it at our pace, just like escorts can do their screening and appointment setting whenever they want to.

But this conversation is about providers being late for appointments.

late for a job interview. Got there 5-10 min. early actually..

But if I were the boss, and you worked for me, you can be late 10-15-20 min.. I wouldn't mind.. I would understand.. But when you get there, I want you to put your 100%....

When I am paying people to do work...that comes right out of MY pocket.  NO ONE else is responsible.

So if some employee decided to take a half hour here, a half hour there...it adds up very quickly.

If you're OK with literally giving away money for nothing...I doubt you'll ever be an owner.  A boss maybe using someone else's money...that's easy  LOL   But eventually YOUR boss will not be a happy camper if the profits erode due to tardiness.

It's lonely at the top  :D

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
late for a job interview. Got there 5-10 min. early actually..  
   
 But if I were the boss, and you worked for me, you can be late 10-15-20 min.. I wouldn't mind.. I would understand.. But when you get there, I want you to put your 100%....

can they just not wait for another 10-15 min to make up, unless its a situation in retail store, where you can't afford to lost money by having customer wait to pick up his coffee and doughnut...

So, lets say, I have an appointment with you CPA to do my taxes.. I reach there on time, and you are running late 10-15 min, but you come and do a great job !!! Save me ton of money that I could have overpaid in taxes, do you think I am going to be a dick about it....And yes, after the taxes are done, I am going to hand you your fee, coming right out of my account.. I will definitely come for 2014, to do 2013's taxes..

A case can be made that I can be a better owner/entrepreneur, because I do get the bigger picture?

Last time, my doctor's appointment started on time was.......HMMMM NEVER... Yet, I still have the same doctor for last 5 yrs and counting...

Honestly I don't EVER recall asking any client to wait even 1 minute for me.  But then all of the other professionals I deal with conduct themselves in a similar manner.  But they are also owners, not just the hired help.

Conversely, if you hired me and we have a 10:00...I expect YOU to be ready to meet at 10:00.  If you are running late...no problem.  But I will bill you and get paid for the time you reserved.  And the likelihood is if I planned on a 1 hour meeting...I will terminate at 11:00 so I can meet with my next client on time.

That's how I've always run my firms...and how I will continue running them.  It may not be the way you've become accustomed, as wit your doctor not being timely....perhaps time to find a medical professional that does give a shit about being on time and respecting your time.  There's many out there.

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
can they just not wait for another 10-15 min to make up, unless its a situation in retail store, where you can't afford to lost money by having customer wait to pick up his coffee and doughnut...  
   
 So, lets say, I have an appointment with you CPA to do my taxes.. I reach there on time, and you are running late 10-15 min, but you come and do a great job !!! Save me ton of money that I could have overpaid in taxes, do you think I am going to be a dick about it....And yes, after the taxes are done, I am going to hand you your fee, coming right out of my account.. I will definitely come for 2014, to do 2013's taxes..  
   
 A case can be made that I can be a better owner/entrepreneur, because I do get the bigger picture?  
   
 Last time, my doctor's appointment started on time was.......HMMMM NEVER... Yet, I still have the same doctor for last 5 yrs and counting...

So, I guess time for us to disagree a little bit...

But hey if your way has worked for you, who am I to say anything

Are notorious fro over booking and making people wait. BECAUSE we allow it. I get in on the alloted time at both because I made it abundantly clear that my time is as important as their time and that I would be billing them for lost income. It worked in both these cases. Again, you get treated the way you allow.

There's a VERY short list of excuses that I would listen to:

The first one being you DIED

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
due to circumstances outside of your control...

and you glad that you don't have me as an employee...

FWIW, My boss just called and asked me for a favor... He said.. Can you please run some scripts first thing tomorrow morning...He is a kind gentleman... I told him, "Boss, I will do it tonite in a bit. I will be up watching the game anyway...." Boss says, "ataboy.."

And boss doesn't give a shit that today I showed up at 8:30 instead of 8:00....As he didn't even give me a specific time to show up..  

Can we say, "Amen" together?

What is out of her control? She was in the fkin room for like 3 days lol. Sorry Curly, but I agree with Tash and CPA on this. You might expect a gal who rated lower to do that, but not one who is seriously in the TOPS of the TOPS. On occasion sure, but not all the damn time. It really reiterates why so many guys are pissed off when that 10 is really a 7!

Seriously. It doesn't have to be so black and white. Life is going to happen. Lets be reasonable, y'all.

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
due to circumstances outside of your control...

And did take your freeways to Mount Vernon to see Washington's estate.

But you also realize that in ChiTown the traffic is as bad, perhaps worse than DC.  

As I prefaced on one of these posts...I am a bit OCD on this issue.  But since it's MY fucking company...and MY fucking clients...then it's MY fucking reputation that is on the line every fucking day.

So I plan according and make sure NO client of mine is ever there before me.  EVER!!

Doesn't make me a genius by a long shot.  I have to work a heluva lot harder than many to achieve the same results.  But it will never be for lack of effort on my part.

It's called respect.  

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
I am surprised you ever went to grade school...You should have just appeared for CPA exam, and that too is probably beneath your dignity.  
   
 I personally wouldn't care if my employee would show up at 8:20 for an 8:00 job, unless I am in retail or some other sector where opening store late would mean direct hit to business...I would care more for quality of work he/she puts in, and not about petty stuff like what time he/she walked in the door..  
   
 Perhaps you have never been to DC area and traveled on I-495, and seen how bad he traffic is around here...  
   
 You should get out of Cook Count every once in a while..    
   
 Hey..Ask your home boy Barack Hussein Obama.. Heard he lives somewhere around here.. In 1600 Penn or something....  
   
 Really don't give a shit if hooker shows up 20 min late..

Secondly, its admirable that you are so punctual.  

Third...If I do become successful and want a CPA to look after my taxes, I would definitely hire someone like you, or perhaps even you....

Fourth...Its one thing having high standards for your own life, but to impose them upon others (yes even when you are paying a hooker) is somewhat foolish..You can expect a reasonable amount of punctuality, but really 15-20 min..really.. She is a human too.. Perhaps she got lost finding the place..COPS pulled her over...Shit does happen...

Last but not the least.... Remember what Gandhi said, "Be the change in the world that you want to see..." He didn't say...."Shove it down people's throats..." or Be a dick about it.....

And again, I admire you for not ever being late..

I certainly am not nor will I ever force my principles on anyone.

However, if you are MY employee and I am paying YOU to perform a task...YOU will do it my way.  Or not, and we quickly part ways.

Same as hiring a hooker...if she' late, no problem.  I may stick around..I may not depending on how "late" she is.  What I won't do is see her again.  And she's more than able to continue to fuck over anyone who is willing to put up with that nonsense.

As far as the other points...it can be a curse.  Honestly if I even sense that I am going to be running close to the time frame...I get upset.  But I've always been that way, and I've learned to deal with it.

Honestly most of the hookers I've met for either BCD or OTC are also a bit OCD about being on time.  It's a win-win in my book.

Don't apply for a job at my firm.  We aren't a fit  :D

Really?  Jobs that require you to be on time are entry level? I guess that means all prostitutes are in entry level jobs. BECAUSE we want you to show up on time PLEASE. I even said please!!!!

I am always early. If I have to sit in a parking lot for 30min whatever, I can scout new ladies on my phone while I wait. But, when I call and it's time they should be ready, or session time starts when I walk in the door. I get that shit happens, but on time is on time. Expectations....that's a completely different subject

Is it illogical to EXPECT stellar and unmatched service from a provider who has mostly all 10s? So, would he be better seeing someone who rated less, if that's the case? What good are 10s if you think guys are not going to EXPECT nothing but perfection or pretty close to it? Blame the unrealistic expectations that such averages create, not the guy who bought into it. That's about as crazy as saying you should not expect to be ripped off from a provide who has nothing but 1s and 2s for performance. Reviews and a string of perfect scores, create certain expectations otherwise women would not be so obsessed with having them.

Actually, an excellent point. Well said. When scores are all 9's and 10's one gets the perception that it will be perfect, but sometimes the ladies with those scores get a "holier than u attitude" attitude. If they have all 9's and 10's they should know how to be on time and not double book. PERIOD.

"Some" of the newer ladies will let me do as I please for a fraction of the price. Always safe

Yes, he should check out providers that are less highly rated. There are many excellent finds out there.

Wow. Speaking of "professionalism", I've never been to any doctor appointment or appointment with an attorney that started exactly on time to the minute. So basically, if you have an appointment scheduled with me and I need to pee before sending you up, taking 3 minutes to do so makes me unprofessional?  
And "out of her control" isn't a misnomer- it doesn't matter how much time one allots for travel, checking in, etc, there are tons of things outside of anyone's control - traffic accidents, the maid finishing up in the room, blah blah blah. Unfortunately I haven't mastered the art of being able to psionically control the highway system...guess I'll just have to stick with being "unprofessional" (along with my doctor, airline,  attorney, masseuse, movie theater projectionist, accountant, and so on, ad infinitum).

I agree that consistently being 15+ minutes late is a problem, but nothing in this world starts absolutely on time. Luckily, my screening weeds out the self-important guys who think meeting at 3:07 instead of 3:00 is a problem. And in this hobby, for a client to arrive early is absolutely unacceptable, rude, and indiscreet. I don't schedule back-to-back appointments because they make me grumpy, and my appointments pretty much always go 15-30 minutes over time since I'm not a clock watcher. Still- I don't want someone there early so that they can see me arriving/see what car /license plate number I arrive in, etc. if you do arrive early, a good client will wait until a few minutes before the appointment is scheduled and then call/text. It's really a violation of privacy to get there much earlier- and in general is a sign of a PITA client.  

I really kind of hope that every provider you schedule with gives away your spot if you're not there within 5 minutes of the scheduled time. Or better yet- find a new hobby: perhaps stamp collecting?

/rant

I'm not the one complaining, nor did I create this thread -- I'm just replying to it since it was about my review.

I merely pointed out a provider's lateness in my review and felt that it was unacceptable.
You are free to disagree and have your own views on promptness and punctuality.

If you're okay with being 5-10 minutes late, that just shows your character.
Also, it was funny how you hoped/wished bad on me without knowing me (more of your true character showing).

Posted By: gracehadley
Wow. Speaking of "professionalism", I've never been to any doctor appointment or appointment with an attorney that started exactly on time to the minute. So basically, if you have an appointment scheduled with me and I need to pee before sending you up, taking 3 minutes to do so makes me unprofessional?  
 And "out of her control" isn't a misnomer- it doesn't matter how much time one allots for travel, checking in, etc, there are tons of things outside of anyone's control - traffic accidents, the maid finishing up in the room, blah blah blah. Unfortunately I haven't mastered the art of being able to psionically control the highway system...guess I'll just have to stick with being "unprofessional" (along with my doctor, airline,  attorney, masseuse, movie theater projectionist, accountant, and so on, ad infinitum).  
   
 I agree that consistently being 15+ minutes late is a problem, but nothing in this world starts absolutely on time. Luckily, my screening weeds out the self-important guys who think meeting at 3:07 instead of 3:00 is a problem. And in this hobby, for a client to arrive early is absolutely unacceptable, rude, and indiscreet. I don't schedule back-to-back appointments because they make me grumpy, and my appointments pretty much always go 15-30 minutes over time since I'm not a clock watcher. Still- I don't want someone there early so that they can see me arriving/see what car /license plate number I arrive in, etc. if you do arrive early, a good client will wait until a few minutes before the appointment is scheduled and then call/text. It's really a violation of privacy to get there much earlier- and in general is a sign of a PITA client.  
   
 I really kind of hope that every provider you schedule with gives away your spot if you're not there within 5 minutes of the scheduled time. Or better yet- find a new hobby: perhaps stamp collecting?  
   
 /rant

Your spewing garbage!! Yes everybody is late on occasion, but your trying to psionically(not a real word) imply that being late is OK. If I am early but don't have your exact location or room number how am I getting you lic. plate number or the type of car you drive?

You have actually stated that being early is unacceptable. REALLY? You wanna think about that for a minute Honey?  

I can only assume your never on time.

Fortunately I don't have those issues with the professionals I deal with.  NO..not fucking hookers.  YOU know...real professionals who have diplomas and degrees..and an attitude of professionalism.

If all those professionals you listed don't have a real professional attitude (and are on time)...might I suggest that the common denominator is YOU.

Posted By: gracehadley
Wow. Speaking of "professionalism", I've never been to any doctor appointment or appointment with an attorney that started exactly on time to the minute. So basically, if you have an appointment scheduled with me and I need to pee before sending you up, taking 3 minutes to do so makes me unprofessional?  
 And "out of her control" isn't a misnomer- it doesn't matter how much time one allots for travel, checking in, etc, there are tons of things outside of anyone's control - traffic accidents, the maid finishing up in the room, blah blah blah. Unfortunately I haven't mastered the art of being able to psionically control the highway system...guess I'll just have to stick with being "unprofessional" (along with my doctor, airline,  attorney, masseuse, movie theater projectionist, accountant, and so on, ad infinitum).  
   
 I agree that consistently being 15+ minutes late is a problem, but nothing in this world starts absolutely on time. Luckily, my screening weeds out the self-important guys who think meeting at 3:07 instead of 3:00 is a problem. And in this hobby, for a client to arrive early is absolutely unacceptable, rude, and indiscreet. I don't schedule back-to-back appointments because they make me grumpy, and my appointments pretty much always go 15-30 minutes over time since I'm not a clock watcher. Still- I don't want someone there early so that they can see me arriving/see what car /license plate number I arrive in, etc. if you do arrive early, a good client will wait until a few minutes before the appointment is scheduled and then call/text. It's really a violation of privacy to get there much earlier- and in general is a sign of a PITA client.  
   
 I really kind of hope that every provider you schedule with gives away your spot if you're not there within 5 minutes of the scheduled time. Or better yet- find a new hobby: perhaps stamp collecting?  
   
 /rant

elusive1two1757 reads

Man U blow so much smoke around about yourself it's nauseating. go back and read your own post. All you do is point and say how great you are. Are you really that full of shit. My stuff and my life and bla,bla,bla. I feel sorry for you.

But when it came to this particular topic all I spoke of is how important timeliness is to me.

If you don't give a rats ass and hookers (and everyone else in your life apparently) are willing to fuck you over on time...sorry.

In my world...that's all I sell.  And it's a precious and diminishing commodity.

Don't feel sorry for me...feel sorry for yourself.  I guess taking whatever comes your way as OK...that's why you are just another doo bee!

Posted By: elusive1two
Man U blow so much smoke around about yourself it's nauseating. go back and read your own post. All you do is point and say how great you are. Are you really that full of shit. My stuff and my life and bla,bla,bla. I feel sorry for you.

I wasn't wishing you ill, and I agreed that consistent lateness is a problem. I also agree that communication is important if one is running behind, as it is at all points in this process. My problem was was with the idea that being 5 minutes late on ONE occasion is "unacceptable" or "unprofessional". I've had plenty of "real jobs", and I've never had a boss have a problem with me running 5 minutes late on a single occasion. Also, traveling to set job location, where you walk in and clock in, doesn't compare with a job involving constant traveling and different locations, dealing with hotel staff and problems, getting stuck behind some idiot at the front desk who needs to talk over his reservation for 30 minutes, etc.
And even if no lady ever books a room for 1 appointment (not true, I do it all the time, including one day every week for a regular), you still don't know if you're the first client she's seeing after check-in, which makes the whole point moot.  
My "wishing you ill" was just saying, turnabout is fair play. If you find it unacceptable for a lady to need 5 extra minutes on one occasion, then that lady ought to, by rights, be able to find your tardiness unacceptable and cancel/give away your appointment. My other problem is with the idea that escorts (or, as you say, "fucking hookers") aren't doing "real work".  
"Psionic" is a real word- it refers to using the mind to induce paranormal events, eg, the impossible control of highways, which is the context I used it in.

 
Last but not least- if ANYONE knows of a doctor who starts every scheduled appointment right on time every time, please by all means let me know his name so I can switch to him.

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Fortunately I don't have those issues with the professionals I deal with.  NO..not fucking hookers.  YOU know...real professionals who have diplomas and degrees..and an attitude of professionalism.  
   
 If all those professionals you listed don't have a real professional attitude (and are on time)...might I suggest that the common denominator is YOU.

hotplants2186 reads

Au contraire....lol....

I'll start by saying: quite honestly, I really do not care about a provider being early/late, rescheduling...whatever. I do appreciate a heads-up; as would anyone. But, if that heads-up came one minute after.....to my way of thinking, that is just too insignificant to sweat. For me this is pleasure, not business. I already have enough things to worry about for business.  

But, many, many things in this world absolutely DO start absolutely on time. I would love to not have to worry about punctuality---although, I am still a rather fastidiously punctual person, even when I don't have to be.  

And.... somehow.... professionals manage to account for all kinds of things you seem to think are outside of your control, all the time; like the highway system. This is achieved by planning contingencies into getting to where you need to be, on time. And, if you do happen to get completely stuck behind an accident, or a slow maid...lol.... since you're already going nowhere fast, you have plenty of time to let someone know ahead of time

It is one thing to say "things can happen" but another to say "It's ok or expected from hookers." A gal with solid 10s should be held accountable for more than just spreading her legs and opening her mouth, which is mind boggling. You have women who are bashed all day long for their looks, but use 5 star hotels and are NEVER late. Give credit where credit is due for once! So called 10s should not get a pass for stupid shit, and I don't mean this case alone. Guys in the hobby let so much shit pass from a woman who just looks good, and is good for nothing else. It is bs.

i bet he wasnt late blowing his load..

When it's a little more laid back.
I was seeing a lady last summer, where we both had to drive a couple of hours for the date. I would get there first and pay  
for the room, she would arrive shortly thereafter. She didn't HAVE to be there at an exact time, since I was gonna have the room til the following day.  
I think, if the situation allows, try and be a little flexible. ( not nikki avalon late though )

I just hang around... drink diet soda at the bar, or watch TV till she gets there..

10-20 min late is no biggie for me...

I agree with you Dungy ....

AnotherPerspective1978 reads

You are the perfect strip club patron at 1 pm , when all the lunch dancers are on their way   . :-D
 
  I would fine my strippers  for being late , has anyone tried that with their ATF ?    

   
   

 
   

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
I just hang around... drink diet soda at the bar, or watch TV till she gets there..  
   
 10-20 min late is no biggie for me...  
   
 I agree with you Dungy ....

squeeky1891 reads

When I go on civilian dates, and I show up on time but have to wait a little for the lady to finish getting ready, I just roll with it.  I typically have set the evening aside for her and am in no hurry. I also love having longer, multi-hour appointments with providers  including both inside and outside activities in the hobby as well--much more "date-like".  When I do plan one of these, I have no problem with a provider being a little late preparing for the date as I have set time aside for her, the clock doesn't start until she is ready, and I have nothing pressing.  

Unfortunately, I do not have the time to do these long sessions all that frequently, so my appointment requests often are in the 90 min-2hr time frames.  My days typically are pretty busy, and it takes effort to carve this time out of a given day to make it work.  I always set aside some slush time to allow for the "shit happens" event causing either myself of the provider in question to be a little late.  In spite of this, however, I always have other things planned for that day (I have no choice in the matter usually), and my patience can be tested if the appointment gets pushed off too far (especially if it seems this is due to bad scheduling, over sleeping, or generally having no respect for anyone elses time).  Fortunately, most of the ladies I choose to see are very professional in this manner, and I have not really had this happen to me more than a couple of times over the past several years.

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