I would absolutely go for it. No hesitation or thinking about it.
We are obviously stupid.
My long time regular asks me if the offer is still on the table....I had offered him 3x on 3 different occasions (All 3 times began with him saying I wish you could stay the night) a free overnighter and either he was deaf or in disbelief.No his family didn't live near by as he traveled for work. So that wasn't the problem. According to him he didn't believe it, he thought I was joking (How does one joke about that I have no idea) but if he didn't believe it why ask if the offer was still on the table. And of course it isn't (my offers expire) once the time is gone you can never recapture it. Maybe he'll learn his lesson and jump on an offer when it hits him on the face.
Why would you ignore an offer like that? (I'm assuming it's all negative)
but i would definitely immediately ask if it was. and i'd jump on it. and on you.
not quite the same: but i took a lady on a dinner date, and it included sexy times in the car on the way over, oral satisfaction in the parking garage before dinner, nasty sexy talk and footsies during dinner. amazing time.
when the check came the lady offered to go dutch. i couldn't believe my ears, after all the incredible eroticism that had just happened in public, and the promise of 2 hours of alone time once we got back to her incall.
but, here's what i said: "the gentleman in me insists that i pick up the check. but the scotsman in me says, sure, let's split it."
we did, and went back to her place for more fun.
no, it's not quite the same; if she offered me free over night, i might take longer to decide... but, i have learned in my selfish old age that when a lady offers something, be it free time or a sex act i've never tried, or even a ride home when my car was on the fritz so i didnt' have to uber it... you take it, and just assume it's because she likes you enough to be feeling magnanimous at the time... because, as with you, roxanne, she might not be feeling so magnanimous at another point in time.
the human universe is made up of moments, it's up to us all to seize them, else our lives pass us by.
Personally, I let things like this progress naturally, but I do see how if he were the one who suggested it, it would be natural for him to think the overnighter would be "on the clock" At least that's how I treat things. I have a rule of thumb where it comes to anything "free", the lady has to initiate it IMO, even if she does so after I put the thought into her head.
To add a bit of clarity to what I just said. Let's take asking a provider out on a "real" date. If I am actually interested in pursuing something "real" with a hooker, I want to make sure she is not just "being nice" to a paying customer and is only going along with it as a part of doing business. Typically what I will do is express my interest in "something more" but explain that if she is open to the idea she should give me a call and that I won't be constantly be bugging her to go out with me. If she calls me, she is obviously interested. If she doesn't, then I have my answer as well and I simply drop and keep it business as usual.
On this same note, if it were me wanting a woman to stay overnight with me, either I would make the request expecting fully to have to pay, or I would drop a hint for her to make the offer, something like "You don't really have to go home if you don't want to, but only if you really want to stay?" I actually do that a lot in Latin America, where things are much different. I will quite often offer that is a "stay as long as you want" kind of offer. I make it quite clear she only needs to stay as long as she wants to, if that is only for one "pop" and she wants to leave afterwards, that's fine. If she wants to stay for dinner, drinks, overnight, or whatever, it's her choice. Many of those dates end up being overnighters.
had a favorite invite me out for a date, her treat. The gentleman in me insisted that I pick up the tab, but doing so would have diminished the gift she was offering. I let her pick up the tab.
We had a great time together. I didn't get laid that day.
I would absolutely go for it. No hesitation or thinking about it.
gorgeous but because he hinted towards it 3x.
roxanne i would drop dead, y ou are gorgeous!
... what I don't understand is why did he refuse your wonderful offer three times!
He is either an idiot, or not really into you; maybe he was just saying it without really meaning it as a nice gesture in the heat of the moment. In my opinion, he may be a regular, but definitely not a keeper.
PH
Not a keeper at all. I use to adore him but as time progressed he just became weird I guess. Drunk texting at 2a.m asking me questions that he knew irritated me things of that nature so you are right. You are also right that maybe he's not that into me that's true I'm not the end all and be all so I can understand it from that point of view as well.
1. "If an offer sounds too good to be true, it probably is." Will she demand that I marry her in the morning? Will she say she wants to stay even longer, even tho' I have to get to a meeting at 10 AM?
(There's another reason: Actually having to get some sleep to be awake and alert for real world business.)
2. Maybe he had other dates scheduled to come over a couple of hours after you? ... In which case, he should have said, "Sure! Are you up for a threesome?"
My long time regular asks me if the offer is still on the table....I had offered him 3x on 3 different occasions (All 3 times began with him saying I wish you could stay the night) a free overnighter and either he was deaf or in disbelief.No his family didn't live near by as he traveled for work. So that wasn't the problem. According to him he didn't believe it, he thought I was joking (How does one joke about that I have no idea) but if he didn't believe it why ask if the offer was still on the table. And of course it isn't (my offers expire) once the time is gone you can never recapture it. Maybe he'll learn his lesson and jump on an offer when it hits him on the face.
Why would you ignore an offer like that? (I'm assuming it's all negative)
It's funny to me because in one occasion I was touring less than an hr away and I told him come on over after giving him other provider recommendations his words were "No I want to see you" so why not take the trip? See and people say men are simple creatures. LOL
Exactly why so many guys don't believe any Penthouse letters, they are consumed with doubt due to their negative self esteem and their feelings of inferiority..
My long time regular asks me if the offer is still on the table....I had offered him 3x on 3 different occasions (All 3 times began with him saying I wish you could stay the night) a free overnighter and either he was deaf or in disbelief.No his family didn't live near by as he traveled for work. So that wasn't the problem. According to him he didn't believe it, he thought I was joking (How does one joke about that I have no idea) but if he didn't believe it why ask if the offer was still on the table. And of course it isn't (my offers expire) once the time is gone you can never recapture it. Maybe he'll learn his lesson and jump on an offer when it hits him on the face.
Why would you ignore an offer like that? (I'm assuming it's all negative)
I think people have a sense of arrogance about them that makes them internally feel like they are the shit but outwardly unsure. I am guessing that he thinks very highly of himself but is unsure at times. I don't know how clear you made your offer, maybe he was unsure as to if he would be charged. What you did was plant a seed in his head by offering, as I said before, he very well may be unsure of himself. He is used to seeing you for x amount of time, and since you said he has become a longtime regular, he obviously likes you. My guess is that he wants you to like him as well, but one of the things that fades with time spent with someone, is intrigue. I think he likes you, wants you to like him, but isn't sure that he will be able to keep you interested past the time you two normally spend with one another. Your offer more than likely lingered in his thoughts until he decided to say fuck it and take advantage of it.
I never saw it like that but that makes sense. He also asks me if i get jealous when I hook him up with other providers. I guess somewhere some place he does feel unsure but there's no fixing it that. As far as clear....I mean....I drew him a picture and all. LOL Couldn't be more clear. What a shame but I'm weird like that. I offered it 3x and never again.
of Roxanne or her client, there's a polite way to say sorry, I think I have to leave. If one party is disinterested or uncomfortable,
odds are that the other is too. Who walks away from a good time?
and you'll never probably ever know for sure, and even if you did, the next time might be a completely different reason.
I've had a few such offers over my long hobby career, and I've never stinted on them, and they were all very positive.
One gal had the most charming way of asking: "You're not going to go off and make me sleep alone tonight, are you?" How does one resist that? 8o
I'm not sure either so let's test that theory. ![]()
Just kidding and I don't blame you for trying with Roxy either. Lol
Just this morning I used a coupon at mcDonalds.
I like to see how the riff raff live at times. ![]()
I must say you are different with some of your clients.
When hobbyists read comments from some providers on here.
We are reminded about this is a business or money and let's not forget about don't waste the provider time.
So yes I have received extra time from some of my ATF myself.
Just remember we are programmed in this hobby to treat most providers like dollar signs.
Some providers may not be as cool as you or maybe his wife treats him like shit.
If you really like him, just cut the guy some slack and you should not take it personally.
Roxy I think most guys including myself would have taken your offer.
So maybe you need to try again with another client. Lol
My long time regular asks me if the offer is still on the table....I had offered him 3x on 3 different occasions (All 3 times began with him saying I wish you could stay the night) a free overnighter and either he was deaf or in disbelief.No his family didn't live near by as he traveled for work. So that wasn't the problem. According to him he didn't believe it, he thought I was joking (How does one joke about that I have no idea) but if he didn't believe it why ask if the offer was still on the table. And of course it isn't (my offers expire) once the time is gone you can never recapture it. Maybe he'll learn his lesson and jump on an offer when it hits him on the face.
Why would you ignore an offer like that? (I'm assuming it's all negative)
The money keeps our mouths shut (after lol) and it keeps many married men from feeling like they are truly cheating. It should keep emotions out of the mix, so that's why it's a business and not match.com. Why this guy feels the way he does, I could not tell you, but if he is not wanting anything more than a transactional relationship, I don't know why that would be such a shock.
Hope all is well and wish you a prosperous 2016
"Haggled" dates, no. LOL
But you already knew this Rayne. ![]()
The guy might think like me. I pay to use their body for my personal pleasure. Then I pay them to LEAVE!! It has nothing to do with emotions or feelings of guilt over "cheating." To me it would feel weird to have a hooker spend the night unless we were fucking almost the whole time.
PS: Are you back posting to TER or is this just a visit?
Damnit... I was hoping you still hated me because stalking brings my stats up bwhahaha. Happy New Year, and yes... I agree with you. Shocker. Just a visit.
Times why not throw you a bone. How many hungry could one possibly be? In my humble opinion. Hispanic tradition you take care of those that take care of you. It's just a good etiquette. Bet his wife doesn't give him anything for free.
Hey... it's your vagina. Wear that shit out as much as you like, honey. I do offer incentives, but not free sex. Everyone pays for that.
and am still kicking myself in the ass. My reasoning was I had work the next day and hadn't brought my "uniform" and didn't want to call in. WHAT A DUMB ASS. This sweet lady drove 4 hours, got a really nice room, set out a nice spread, all for just a 2 hour appt. Needless to say she is my ATF and I see her whenever I get the opportunity.
Prostitute/whatever definition- ladies engages in service for exchange for money.I never see prostitute give client free sessions.LOL ![]()
as such. In my humble opinion. No drug smoking no nothing. Everyone does things differently even my doctor throws me a freebie here and there and what do I do I keep going back to him. The sun shines for everyone.
Hey, have your doc give me a call will ya lol. I will offer sexual favors for free Botox. Just saying. ![]()
Much of the allure to this life of ours, is that I know exactly what the lady's motivation is. It keeps things simple, allows both of us to relax, and hopefully we both have a good time. Take out the dynamic of the first P of P4P and one is left with, why, what is the motivation/agenda. Now this comes from me, who admittedly does not believe in romantic love anymore, so my cynicism is most likely evident.
Also, if you stay the night with me, pay or not, I snore like a fucking bear, so either you or I would not get much sleep, me because I'd be so self conscious, and you if I do fall asleep.
Every human being has an agenda with every other human, and probably every other being. If I know exactly what someone's agenda is, then I know exactly how to navigate within the boundries of that relationship. Besides romantic relationships are just too much damn work for far too little reward.
As someone else mentioned earlier, and I was taught often in life, "if something sounds too good to be true, it most likely is".
Amen NO FREE LUNCH in life. Funny Prostitutes talk out their asses it's not about money.Are you smoking drugs?????
Also, if you stay the night with me, pay or not, I snore like a fucking bear, so either you or I would not get much sleep, me because I'd be so self conscious, and you if I do fall asleep.
Every human being has an agenda with every other human, and probably every other being. If I know exactly what someone's agenda is, then I know exactly how to navigate within the boundries of that relationship. Besides romantic relationships are just too much damn work for far too little reward.
As someone else mentioned earlier, and I was taught often in life, "if something sounds too good to be true, it most likely is".
Hey Fancy666, er, I mean, 888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888, what if they're snorting or injecting the drugs? What if the goddamn cartel shows up in the middle of a P4P session? What if the President is one of your clients, and you get busted, and outed on national TV?
.I'm not going to wastedtime going back and forth on board You look good crying to everyone and trying to explain yourself on board and to others.NO.FREE LUNCH IN LIFE.Irrational thinking that's why I made comment about smoking drugs.YES we all need TLC and hug sugar.Will you do that for FREE for me and others?SMILE doll life too short ![]()
Fancy666, er, I mean, 888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888 also needs lessons in English, typing, and general etiquette.
But after the introductory hug (and I mean proper hug, not the half hearted pat on the back hug), after that intro, I need a really good blow job, some nice conversation, some more fun, some more convo, then a proper parting hug. For that she will be properly compensated based upon her stated donation for her time. And we both part ways happy.
It's just as simple and perfect as that. If I need love, I'll get a dog, it's unconditional.
some people are used to sleeping alone...
maybe he had early morning presentations and needed to catch some rest...
some of executive types have to get up like 5am or so
some people who have been divorced for a while are just sleep better alone
1. He gets night terrors. (unlikely but a possibility)
2. Some part of him would feel bad. (Puritanical upbringing, choir boy)
3. He prefer you with makeup on. (to keep the 'fantasy' alive.)
4. He and his wife sleep in separate beds at home for a reason. (why start a new trend.)
5. He wets his bed at night. (hey stranger things have been written on this board.)
5. He forgot his vitamin V pill. (he may have agreed if he was 'up' to it.)
7. He sleeps with the lights on. (see above.)
8. See above.
9. He has insecurities unbeknownst to you or others as described.
10. There are two number 5's.
11. You checked