For the Hobbyists, Are we just looking to keep being with women and having fun?
Doesn't it get to that point that you want more again - Like a relationship, with love, etc?
Are you really fulfilled with just being a "john?"




Whats a provider's ultimate goal?

I think they can only take so much of what they do. Not to be blunt, but They can only suck so much cock and fuck so many guys. I think it gets to a point when they can't/don't want to do it anymore and then what? Do they just call it quits? What if they can't?

Obviously, I think it gets to a point when they are done. Do some or most providers make a plan to only stay in the biz for only a certain amount of time?

I wonder are some or most providers just looking for that one guy that will sweep them away and continue to afford them their lifestyle?

I would prefer he would drink a tallglassofmilk with a hefty dose of arsenic, every question he poses reaches a new level of stupid.

I think he is searching for the "meaning of life" hate to burst his bubble, but he aint going to find it here.

that kind of day.

My dick falls off the same time that my money runs out.

So much for the anonmynity of this alias. I bet you can can guess my identity on the first guess. lol

and it not only that "kind of day", it seems to be about a week of stupid post after stupid post. No wonder I am "tired"

And frankly, if I had an answer, I'd keep it to myself for tactical reasons.

& I can understand why you're tired; between here & the P & R board, bud, the mind boggles.

You & I have many differences, but 2 things where
we are exactly on same page : we're both obnoxious assholes & we " don't suffer fools gladly"--------------LMFAO !

Oh all right, in this particular case, you can speak for me as well. lmao

Just remember you only have to suffer through the stupid shit that actually makes it onto the board, can you imagine how stupid the shit is that gets denied? It's like having a hundred liorrs, every fucking day. lol

is for you to stop coming up with these stupid lame threads prying into providers and hobbyists lives.

Your last one was a real zinger. This one not so much, but never the less lame. Go get laid, or drink a tallglassofmilk every morning and two Tylenol.

"are some or most providers just looking for that one guy that will sweep them away and continue to afford them their lifestyle? "

Yikes fella, it's just a business, P4P, etc.  You're making way too much of a simple business transaction.  You need to get a hobby besides this one and do something more valuable with your time.  Stop worrying about escorts - most are already married or have SO's - they're not looking for anyone.  In general, they're just running a business and their product is a personal service - that's about it.

for me, it's the excitement of the situation and also the learning experience.   I'm single and will eventually get into a permanent relationship......but until then......I want to learn as much as possible about women and what I can do to keep them, and myself, satisfied.    The business is a "cold" one, but I overlook that aspect and dwell on the positives......i.e. education and the excitement of doing something "wrong"......if it is....

most girls will come back again as soon as they need money. And yes, it is easy to burn out sometimes. Clients put intense physical and emotional pressures on us. It becomes overwhelming sometimes.

You get out of it what you put into it.

My goals are complex and interrelated; and beyond the scope of a hobbyist board.

I want to have sex with beautiful and exciting women who, under normal circumstances, would not look at a guy like me twice...

Relationship? Define that. I've made some great friends in the hobby. Women that I care about and trust implicitly. But that's a bonus. Hobbying, at it's base, is about no-strings-attached sexual pleasure for the boys and revenue for the girls. Once you try to make it more than that you run the risk of ruining a good thing...

the end for me is too far off to wonder the what, when, why etc

To fall insanely in love with me...run off to a warm climate beach area and support me lavishly the rest of my life.

this response is not for the OP so much as anyone else who may be paying attention (i kinda get the idea that the OP has some very deep-seated, narrow and overly simplistic viewpoints on these things and is just looking for external validation and confirmation).

so yeah...my ultimate goal in all of this is to be able to look at myself in the mirror and honestly say that i have helped people, that i have enriched the lives of a few and used my unique qualities and gifts to help those who truly needed it. THAT is the primary thing i wish to get from this "hobby." secondarily, there is definitely some taboo erotic fulfillment, because of the buttons that objectification pushes for me. but that is far second to the ultimate goal of service, nurturing, compassion. making money is just not something i care about at all, so is not one of my goals in this whatsoever. for me the money serves two very different but very important functions: it helps keep emotional boundaries in place for the men i see (as with the types of relationships i develop with clients, the line can easily be blurred beyond recognition), and yes i admit there is a yummy pervy factor to the objectification it implies.

"For the Hobbyists, Whats your Ultimate Goal?"

My hobby goals in order of importance:
1) To make my wife happy as she actively wants and enrages me to play. If I don't play she is not as happy.
2) Have fun
3) To learn about my wifes world, and where she came from.
4) To meat interesting ladies and get to know them.
5) To fuck a wide variety of women.
6) Make friends. And I have made a few.
7) To increase my bed room skills.
8) To make up for lost time. I was a very late starter.
9) Exercise. I hear sex burns a few celeries.
Please note the first three are the only ones that really matter that much the rest are just bonus goals. If any of the first three goals are ever off the table I would quit right then. I was not going to answer but I got board sitting around the hospital watching my wife sleep, so I answered to waste time as this question is a waste of time.

"Are we just looking to keep being with women and having fun?"

Mostly, see my goals for more details.

Doesn't it get to that point that you want more again - Like a relationship, with love, etc?

I am mostly happily married and am not looking for anything not stated in my goals like a romantic relationship. One of those is enough for me thank you. The hobby is not a good place to look for love as it is way to fake and comes with way to much drama. Trust me I know about the drama that come from love in the hobby as my wife is a provider and I am a "john."

Are you really fulfilled with just being a "john?"

No, but lucky I am a husband, a father, a business owner, a friend, and many other titles in life that help fulfill me. I am not looking for fulfillment from this hobby. I din't think there is much real fulfillment to be found as a "john."

While I am wasting time is there any more questions I can answer? As I am still quite board.

Manilow-style, I mean.

I don't know why so many people shit on your threads.  

I think this is a reasonable question.   For me, I think it will take A LOT of sucking and fucking to get bored of it until I "can't/don't want to do it anymore" and I start looping "Ultimate Manilow" on my commute to work hoping and wishing I could find that ONE AMAZING WOMAN.

Sure, I want affection.  I want to give/receive love.   But a setting up a "loving relationship" on my terms is neither feasible in terms of emotional/time investment involved nor is it safe.

I can spend the next 30 years banging PYTs and be reasonably happy!

I thought my goal was to just get some strange.  Just a sexual release.  I wanted a regular provider, money for sex...at my convenience.

What I have found is that most ladies can't manage their money or their time.  I have spent more time sitting in a car idling then I care to add up.

It is also hard to separate feelings from sex.  I want a friend I can fuck...but the friendship turns into me being an ATM.  Then you don't know if the call is for SEX or FRIENDSHIP.  You show up because they need a friend and GOD DAMN if you don't end up having sex...then they ask for money.  So you tell yourself that NEXT time no sex...then you don't want them any more.  It get's complex quickly.

Most of the women I have met want out, they may say they love it, and while the money is good...it's not steady income.  AND like I said, most that I have met are really bad at managing their money.

I am still looking for that gem, provider that is professional, good looking, stable and already has enough friends.

I would leave my wife for one....if I actually thought she gave a shit about me...but I know better....

GOOD luck with that!! I think you may have been looking in the wrong places. Id like to consider myself that provider that enjoys what I do, I have another job, school, more great friends than most and pretty good at where THIS money goes...however, I love the men I meet and we have as much fun together as out time allotted allows..we are all adults here, lets act like it and just enjoy what this is, for whatever our reasons are!

Using the term "john" indicates your mindset clearly, as do most of your other comments. Your prejudice and condescension clearly indicate that you are anti-hobby, and posting this under an alias undermines your credibility.   So do us a favor...hit the road!

My goal is to meet a lot of new friends with benefits (on both sides of the friendship).