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indomitable1977 4354 reads
posted
1 / 40
An unusual circumstance

I had a great outcall session with a young Hungarian provider recently in Costa Mesa. It was the first time I've experienced 3 pops in a 1 hour meeting. After this nice young lady left, I realized she had forgotten her envelope! She did not return for it, and I did not want to get her in trouble with the agency by letting them know. I had no way of contacting her directly. Has anyone else been in a similar situation?

1256849 25 Reviews 57 reads
posted
2 / 40
Well...

That's odd. I mean I like how most of the independents handle the envelope. They trust me. We have a good working relationship rapport.

Every agency girl I've been with has ALWAYS verified and secured the cash upfront AND called it in that everything is kosher.

Either she was a newbie and has no clue what her job was or this is BS.

Why dont you call them up, reschedule and pay her double, or something.

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 62 reads
posted
3 / 40
Why wouldn't you contact the agency?

No that has never happened to me but if it did, I would have contacted the agency immediately. They could have contacted her and sent her right back, or if she was booked back to back, they could have made some kind of arrangements to collect from you.  

You were worried about getting her in trouble for forgetting? You're probably the one who will get in trouble now. You could get blacklisted for non payment.  

Edited for typo

-- Modified on 7/22/2017 6:47:14 PM

souls_harbor 65 reads
posted
4 / 40
I'd advice to contact agency -eom-


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BigPapasan 3 Reviews 80 reads
posted
5 / 40
You'll get her in MORE trouble if you don't let the agency know...

...She'll have to pay the agency's fee, so she not only won't have made anything, she'll be out of pocket as  well.  Call the agency - tell them you were so good that she couldn't walk or think straight when she left.  Tell them that most hookers forget the envelope or try to give it back to you because you're so damn good.

Call the fucking agency!  If you don't, they could blacklist you, even though she was the one that forgot the envelope.  Who knows, she may even claim that you stiffed her...and not in a good way.

eastside70 47 Reviews 50 reads
posted
6 / 40
I haven't been in a similar situation, but ...

don't you think she's going to get in trouble anyway when she returns without the envelope?  I would have contacted the agency and explained the situation with the hopes that they would immediately contact her to return for the envelope or make other arrangements. So how did it get resolved?

JJLLRRKK1971 6 Reviews 58 reads
posted
7 / 40
Contact the Agency

I look it as an honest human mistake and she probably right now is like oh shit. Please call the agency up and arrange some how to get the considerations to them.

russbbj 89 Reviews 61 reads
posted
8 / 40
Doing the "right" thing always feels good

And... Karma can be a real bitch if you don't.

I don't believe in any God or Religion, but I sure do believe in Karma.

The "right" thing to do is to reach out to the Agency, I'm confident that you know that. She likely won't be in trouble with the Agency, but she will have to pay them regardless, so she's out money.  

Karma will reward you.

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 74 reads
posted
9 / 40
Exactly! She still has to pay the agency fee!

That could be anywhere from 30-50%. Imagine if it's 50%. Then she not only made zero off this guy, she made zero off her next client too, because she would have to pay that entire amount to the agency as their cut for two clients. On top of that she is out whatever travel expenses she incurred.  

That's just crazy thinking: "I didn't call the agency because I didn't want her to get in trouble." WTF

CamilleUK See my TER Reviews 54 reads
posted
10 / 40
Call the agency!

If you haven't heard from the agency and this was 'recently' as in not today or yesterday then the young lady in question has probably paid up without saying anything. There is no way that the the agency haven't received their cut and not contacted you. Even if the SP has paid the agency it doesn't sound as though she has said anything.   You absolutely must call the agency as all the others have said. You're lucky you haven't ended up on a blacklist...

Posted By: indomitable1977

I had a great outcall session with a young Hungarian provider recently in Costa Mesa. It was the first time I've experienced 3 pops in a 1 hour meeting. After this nice young lady left, I realized she had forgotten her envelope! She did not return for it, and I did not want to get her in trouble with the agency by letting them know. I had no way of contacting her directly. Has anyone else been in a similar situation?

micktoz 43 Reviews 59 reads
posted
11 / 40
Send me the money, I'll get it to her.

Bloody hell Mate! Give her the money, anyway you can. She earned it.

CristinSparks See my TER Reviews 67 reads
posted
12 / 40
Please call the agency asap!

As others have said she will be out the agency fee that she owes for their share the session you two had together. I've had this happen several times while I worked at an agency. Fortunately the guy or me noticed pretty quickly and the phone lady got the guys back in the gate to hand it to me. No one was wrong, we are human and errors are bound to happen.  

Yes it is a pain. But even since being Indy, it has still happened a few times. It mostly happens with guys that I'm comfortable with. We end up having a grand ole time and we truly forget the paid part of it. Neither of you were in the wrong but you were wrong for not contacting the agency immediately after you realized you didn't pay her.  

Unless it's a crap agency that she shouldn't be at in the first place. I can't see the agency being mad at either of you. I can see them questioning you as to why you didn't call right after the appt. And the fact that her handler didn't call you right away may mean she had a really great time with you but wasn't sure how to handle the situation, so she had to sweat the situation because you didn't need step up to the mistake you made. The few guys it has happened with me have been with guys I've seen multiple times and had great chemistry with which is how neither of us noticed till after the fact. But since she has left you, you have handled the aftermath completely wrong! You should pay her fee for this appt and then when you see her again you should generously tip her since she has likely paid the agency fee of the appt you two had together out of her own pocket. That is the part that is right. Do not tip this session unless you actually put the money in the ladies hand. Sorry but unless you completely trust the agency don't trust them to pay her to extra you may pay to make up for this problem. That's why o suggest tipping her when you see her again.

We are all humans crap happens, how you handle the aftermath is what speaks of you. Please update! And also please let us know how many Days it's been since this session.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 60 reads
posted
13 / 40
You don't have to do anything . . .

If the agency is worth their salt, they will be sending Ice Pick Charlie and Louie the Pipe to talk to you about the missing money. OR, as others have suggested, you can call them first.

1256849 25 Reviews 55 reads
posted
14 / 40
Re: Please call the agency asap!

You said,

Posted By: CristinSparks
Re: "I've had this happen several times while I worked at an agency. Fortunately the guy or me noticed pretty quickly and the phone lady got the guys back in the gate to hand it to me. No one was wrong, we are human and errors are bound to happen."
   
 How does this happen several times? Not challenging your professionalism, but in 20 years I've never seen this happen.  Take care of business first and get down to having some fun. :)

JakeFromStateFarm 56 reads
posted
15 / 40
The stupid


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STPhomer 176 Reviews 61 reads
posted
16 / 40
I've had that happen as well

Immediately contact the agency. For a couple reasons.
1 it's simply the right thing to do
2 The lady is already in trouble and probably having to cough up the agencies cut
3 The lady might be in bigger trouble if you don't confirm that she indeed left the envelope  

And , oh yes

4 it's simply the right thing to do .

Darthvolc 2 Reviews 60 reads
posted
17 / 40
Call the agency and book another appt.

Since she will be most appreciative, you might have an even better session.

GaGambler 60 reads
posted
18 / 40
On the newbie board "there are no stupid questions"

but this is NOT the newbie board and this is an incredibly stupid question,  it boggles the mind that anyone would even ask something so dumb.

 
The question itself is just too dumb to answer, except to say the longer he waits the guiltier he looks.

souls_harbor 58 reads
posted
19 / 40
No value

Your comment adds no value to the forum.

AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 70 reads
posted
20 / 40
How does it add no value?

The OP's first reaction is to not contact the agency?  Huh?  Is he posting on here looking for affirmation that the session was so good that she comped him?  I doubt it.  I've forgotten the donation once with a regular and another time a lady picked up the tip amount instead of the donation.  In both instances, I was made aware within five minutes.  The OP knew what he was doing, and that was trying to get a freebie.  

CristinSparks See my TER Reviews 57 reads
posted
21 / 40
Re: Please call the agency asap!

So you are saying that even with a regular that I should just demand payment up front.  

I'm sorry I have Regs that I don't worry about. We like to chat and get the fun going and I'm not going to hold back because I haven't seen the payment laid down. I can't stand even the slightest mention of it so do I just stand there until the payment is laid down? Please tell me since you seem to know how to be successful as a escort.  

For the record I do have one regular that has seen me since I've started in this that has forgot to leave the gift at least 3 times maybe a few more. This is the type of trust that I just leave my stuff wherever and he has on many occasions slide the gift down in my purse just before walking out. Therefore I can't actually see it. Every time its happened I've noticed within him leaving shortly and I call or text and say something Um, you forgot something?! And he comes right back every time.  

Yes this is a business but I would rather have a client/friend I can trust to not worry about it being a business. It's funny that we providers get accused of being all about the money and yet when you hear a story of someone forgetting the money several times we are called unprofessional! Just goes to show no matter how we handle the business part that someone will always criticize.

harborview 10 Reviews 61 reads
posted
22 / 40
Your only contact is through the agency

So that is how you must get back in touch with her.  You owe her, so make it right.  Another session would be fine if you want or meet her for a hand off.  Maybe say she left something behind...  

One of my biggest fears was I'd forget...  & I would have had to drive a long way to return.    
I actually got inside a Fav's door once...  I realized i'd ditched my jacket in the car & the donation was in it.  I offered t go get it or i'd give my keys for her to do so.  She said no & we had our session...  walked out together chatting like old friends.  I opened the car, retrieved the donation before standing up for a hug & a Iight kiss goodbye.  We clasped hands as we did so & the donation passed hand to hand... we went our separate ways.  

nothrofboston 24 Reviews 52 reads
posted
23 / 40
Sorry GaGa, you're wrong about this being ....

a stupid question, it's not a stupid question ... it's a legit question by a stupid player. Shit, you'd think he's want to do anything possible to keep that gal happy. Me, I'd have scheduled a date for next morning while I was there or with the agency on the ride home. Call me weak for good pussy. Lol

I'm not saying he's a stupid person, but he doesn't have a clue about being a proper client. PAY UP! Biz 101!

I'll admit to forgetting more than once (more than twice too). I've gotten calls from the provider and the agency and I've also IMMEDIATELY called them to let them know. It's my responsibility. If it was awkward for me, it would be of my own doing.  

I've never experienced any backlash from it. Usually more like whiplash. I had this thing for this petite brunette  who liked me a lot. In most instances, I'd be her first client when she came to town ... and I'd see her again the next morning. We (agency) all knew our itinerary, so when I forgot, the agency called laughing and reminded me to have it in the morning.

Recently, I got a call a call from an indy who fucked me silly asking me if I left an envelope as she couldn't find it and was concerned she threw it out with the room service . I told her I had it, so she reminded me to bring it over that morning and she proceeeded to fuck me senseless as a penalty.

Or should I say cent-less. Fuck, I love my life.

GaGambler 60 reads
posted
24 / 40
Not that you had any intentions of listening to his crappy advice

but Cristin, you just keep being you.  

 
I can only imagine how I would feel if a woman I had seen multiple times demanded payment before getting started. I am sure I would comply, but I doubt I would ever go see her again.  I guess unsolicited advice that you get on the internet is worth exactly what you pay for it. lol

Bigben68 10 Reviews 61 reads
posted
25 / 40
File a "Chapter 2, article 9"......

"Forgot it was a service"

Just kidding....lol....  Call the agency.

And please provide exact details to this post regarding the 3 pops in 1 hour.

Thank you.

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 61 reads
posted
26 / 40
How about some follow up?

It's 3 days since you posted. Did you pay them?

lostinnyc69 61 reads
posted
27 / 40
Right, it is no dumb..

trolling the boards, have no pussy, looking for a friend and OTC and otherwise brainwash the girls. That's in nutshell all of your posts. And yeah, to become the leader nobody knows of what.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 54 reads
posted
28 / 40
Perhaps you should elaborate . . . .

If I don't understand your post in the context of this thread, then I'm sure there are others as well.  Who are you referring to.  Its not clear.  How do you become a leader of "nobody knows of what?"   Are you talking in code?  Or is this your submission for a run at SPOTY?

lostinnyc69 58 reads
posted
29 / 40
Re: Perhaps you should elaborate . . . .

You run SPOTY for a long time. There is no reason to talk to you.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 49 reads
posted
30 / 40
You're correct. Since saying . . . .

something intelligible seems beyond your mental capability, there is no need to talk to me.  Take some night classes in English or Journalism, learn how to write so people can understand, and THEN you can talk to me.  

lostinnyc69 62 reads
posted
31 / 40
Hah, that proves my point...

After that someone said to you to shut up and f*ck off, you are trying to explain and justify yourself.

GaGambler 68 reads
posted
32 / 40
Hey Anna, I've been meaning to ask you

Are you related to Sophia and BBBBB? You seem to be almost as clueless, but not "quite" as combative, I was guessing that maybe Sophia was your mother and Pav your babushka?

 
I do hope you find enough success here to buy yourself another dress, poor Sophia had to be seen in that same blue dress for all the years she was here. I am hoping the acorn falls a LONG way from the tree, but I am not optimistic. lol

lostinnyc69 63 reads
posted
33 / 40
I have no idea who bbbbb and Sophia is..

but following your posts for a long time, I can assume you are not nice person. Buy yourself a pair of new underwear, wash your socks and go some place else where you can state you are the man, that all women ho's and that you are in need of permanent attention. For a long time that was only a place where Chinese laundry smear ate your brain and prohibited your affairs with Europeans, with Russians at most.

GaGambler 70 reads
posted
34 / 40
So I guess that just proves your "first post" on TER last month was a lie?

How could you have been following my posts for a "long" time when you claim you've only been here barely a month?

 
Come on Anna, fess up. Your aren't Anna at all, you are the same pimp who posted for Sophia, aren't you?  

 
I thought you Russians were supposed to be good with computers, if you are so fucking good, can't you build a better web site? And maybe buy "Anna" another dress? lmao
Related Link: https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/new-york-ads-88/today-my-first-day-on...

lostinnyc69 62 reads
posted
35 / 40
Ever heard about the lurking?

Your sick hallucinations are overboard. I am not Sophia not anyone else. I am Anna. That's name you will remember. And I don't have time to talk with any prick on GD board. The only thing I want to tell you. Stay away from me. I guess that doesn't any sense to you. But nevertheless, stay away.

GaGambler 66 reads
posted
36 / 40
Of course I have heard about lurking, I have also heard about "Lying" lol

and I have little doubt that you are much more of a liar than a lurker.  

 
One last question before I head to the gym. Are all Russian hookers BSC, or is it confined mainly to your immediate family? rofl

HappyChanges 55 reads
posted
37 / 40
As stated above....

night classes are required to prevent further damage Anna.  Aside from the "other" accusations.

lostinnyc69 60 reads
posted
38 / 40
Once again you are showing your immaturity..

Though I think you are old. Russian family is as any other. A family. Nice washup to you in a gym. Don't forget their your socks. Who knows, maybe next time some russian ho would want to blow them off and you don't have any.

TheSopranos 62 reads
posted
39 / 40
Re: So I guess that just proves your "first post" on TER last month was a lie?

I don't always like or agree with your posts, but this one is AWESOME.

souls_harbor 64 reads
posted
40 / 40
Re: Once again you are showing your immaturity..

If you view GaGa posts as an expression of a fetish you will go a long way in understanding his motivation.  

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