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RachaelLee See my TER Reviews 2698 reads
posted
1 / 28

I was browsing through the "suggested friends" list on my personal Facebook page, and noticed a few of my client. It was strange, three of them in a row, but I didn't see any others. I'm not really sure why Facebook is recommending them, as nothing on my Facebook page is related to my hobby life (phone number, email addresses, mutual friends, ect). I keep my page mostly private, but this still really bothers me. Is it maybe because I log into my hobby email account on the same PC? Will I start to come up as a suggested friend for them? Is it because they've somehow viewed my page one way or another? As I said, I keep my page fairly private (you can see my name and my profile/cover picture), but I prefer to keep my hobby and personal life separate..... Very separate.... Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Hieronymus 771 reads
posted
2 / 28

Hi Rachael: Sorry to hear that your personal information has been compromised by FB. I also learned this the hard way. FB will search everything, and I mean everything, on your phone and compare the data mined from your phone with information from other users of FB. There are some security "workarounds" you can avail yourself to protect yourself. I don't trust them enough to have anything more to do with them. Many other apps do similar things but FB is the most aggressive. If you are using a hobby phone make sure that you limit the social media apps and have no connection with your civi phone. FB will help itself to all of your contact info.

Hope this helps. Be careful and stay safe.

RSpork 23 Reviews 653 reads
posted
3 / 28

A provider I'd seen several times popped up as suggested friend. Not sure why, but might have been because I had FB on my phone and it may have seen her number. I promptly took FB off the phone.

I also have had other random people pop up, including my mother's priest and complete strangers. FB and LinkedIn seem to be the most blatant invaders of privacy

VOO-doo 741 reads
posted
4 / 28

If you use the same browser for everything, FB will search your browsing history, contacts, and cookies from other sites. That's how it finds out your which products to advertise (you know, when you've just searched flights to Miami on priceline, and then you see ads for Miami hotels pop up on Facebook?) and people you might know.  

I use TOR for my hobby stuff (TER, e-mail, p411, etc), Chrome or Firefox for most normal browsing, and Safari for facebook. I don't have Facebook installed on my phone,.

Say you check email on Firefox (or any browser) and Facebook on Safari (or any browser). Firefox will not be able to access cookies and history from Safari, and vice versa (at least, not at this point in time).  

TOR is great for anonymous browsing. Some mainstream browsers also have private browsing modes that you can switch on/off.

souperman 7 Reviews 642 reads
posted
5 / 28

to find matches in Facebook, then offering those matches up as potential friends for FB.  Had several providers pop up on a list like that on my FB feed.

2648667 31 Reviews 581 reads
posted
6 / 28

"Will I start to come up as a suggested friend for them? "

Yes you will, and for their wives and their friends and etc. Fb knows you know each other, somehow. And it makes the very unnatural assumption that you should also want to know everyone else he knows. I've heard several accounts to that effect.

Everyone has aspects of their lives they'd like to keep separated, hobby or no. But the stated mission of fb is to connect everyone to everyone, whether they want it or not.

Good luck.

Jensen36363 58 Reviews 621 reads
posted
7 / 28

If you're on FB and using the same computer for both your lives it's no surprise you're seeing these types of links. As someone else noted FB is one of the ultimate virtual stalkers in the world. I cancelled my subscription to FB years ago and I still have to put up with them tracking me on the internet and I'm 100% sure they will link the commercial tracking they do without your knowledge or permission (at least not explicit permission) with their tracking you as a subscriber. It's going to get even worse as they get into the e-com payment game (and they are).

Jensen36363 58 Reviews 572 reads
posted
8 / 28

I'll second TOR but please make sure you (ed. - not necessary the poster recommending TOR but the general reader who goes and gets TOR) read their "TOR is not all you need..." link and occasionally go back and reread it to remind yourself not to get into bad habits. Basically the reality of today's world is if you care about your privacy it's up to you to do the work and pay the cost (in time and effort and sometimes out of pocket) to keep the nosy out.

-- Modified on 1/21/2017 12:25:42 PM

RachaelLee See my TER Reviews 619 reads
posted
9 / 28

I will start making the appropriate changes to ensure privacy for both myself and my clients and their associates.

TheKarateKid 7 Reviews 622 reads
posted
10 / 28

Privacy is a big issue on FB.  If you reply to a post that is set to "public", for example, you've now exposed some elements of your profile to the general public, even if you have your the privacy setting for your own account set to the max.

Similarly, if you post to or reply to your FB friends, their privacy setting can also expose some of your information to their all of their friends depending on the level of privacy they have set.  So, some of your profile info can now be visible to friends, friends of friends, public, etc.  Those are some of the way a few of your clients could have shown up on your "suggested friends list".

It's also wise not to give FB access to your "contacts" when looking for new friends which FB always try to make people do.  New FB users often make that big mistake, since they think it's a requirement, but it's not ...it's just an option.  They usually regret it down the road, since FB can also send out friends request to everyone in your contacts who is on FB, if you're not careful.

TheKarateKid 7 Reviews 424 reads
posted
11 / 28

The latest version of Opera also includes free VPN which I've been using just for the hobby.  I also use other browsers the same way that you described or I make sure that all cookies, cache, etc. are all cleared before using a particular browser.

impposter 49 Reviews 539 reads
posted
12 / 28

For several years, I have been posting this warning:  
                         AVOID SOCIAL MEDIA LIKE THE PLAGUE THAT IT IS!

Thank you, RachaelLee for telling us about what happened. Maybe others will wake up.  See also HotGuyLA from last October:
Posted: 10/3/2016 at 11:47:00 AM
By: HotGuyLA
Subject: Facebook and the hobby
"... I told one of the providers that her true identity is out there for everyone to see. She was shocked
... once FB makes a connection between your phone number and fb account here is no easy way of going back ..."

They (social media: FB, Twitter, Google+, LinkedIn, etc.) have pernicious, nefarious tentacles that reach to every nook and cranny of your life and try to twist it all together regardless of your efforts to keep things separate.  

The stated goal of SM is to connect everyone, WHETHER THEY WANT TO BE CONNECTED OR NOT.  

One simple, inadvertent "click" can open up a crack in the dike protecting you and your privacy. If you think you have it fixed, you probably have nothing, or maybe just air or water, between your ears.

-- Modified on 1/21/2017 5:38:09 PM

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 518 reads
posted
13 / 28

rather just be a "face-fuck" friend.  That's how to keep them separate.  

harborview 10 Reviews 406 reads
posted
14 / 28

I deliberately use separate emails & phones to frustrate the trackers as much as possible... I use CCleaner to erase cookies & such before & after using adult sites.  It frustrates the adware on FB...  reduces that sort of email spam.  I just hated when I looked at an item on say Amazon, decided I didn't want it...  then on FB & Yahoo ads for  the exact item I didn't want keep coming up...  P*** on them!  

clairecavendish See my TER Reviews 677 reads
posted
15 / 28

GPS to pinpoint people on Facebook who are in close proximity!!
I had a quick drink next to a Chinese tour guide in a hotel bar in Salt Lake City once and she popped up as a suggested friend later that day even though we'd not even exchanged names, let alone any other contact details!!

Posted By: RachaelLee
I was browsing through the "suggested friends" list on my personal Facebook page, and noticed a few of my client. It was strange, three of them in a row, but I didn't see any others. I'm not really sure why Facebook is recommending them, as nothing on my Facebook page is related to my hobby life (phone number, email addresses, mutual friends, ect). I keep my page mostly private, but this still really bothers me. Is it maybe because I log into my hobby email account on the same PC? Will I start to come up as a suggested friend for them? Is it because they've somehow viewed my page one way or another? As I said, I keep my page fairly private (you can see my name and my profile/cover picture), but I prefer to keep my hobby and personal life separate..... Very separate.... Has anyone else had a similar experience?

TurbayVeronica See my TER Reviews 429 reads
posted
16 / 28

-Never, NEVER store emails and contacts of clients on your personal phone (Facebook, instagram, twitter, snapchat and many more WOULD get that information on the contacts on your personal account).  

- Never, NEVER search (while screening) you prospect client from YOUR personal social media. Always set up you work / name Facebook acount, instagram, Linkedln, etc...  
(it would show has suggested friends).

- Keep ALL your pictures private, never had your real name on social media... instead use nickname, and never put your pictures public.  

-Never NEVER add the same pictures, with the same backgrounds in your work social media and your personal social media.  

-Use different browsers and if possible a different device for each.

- VPN!

trex44 9 Reviews 488 reads
posted
17 / 28

...I keep my electronic footprint as small and light as possible. Thus, NO social media -- I've had philosophical issues with FB from the beginning and refused to participate. All the other SM platforms are also verboten in my world and I use private browsing mode, clear history 3-4x a day, etc.

Separate hobby phone, work phone and personal phone to keep cross-references at a minimum.  

Trying to preserve what little privacy I have in a rapidly encompassing digital world.

Alley-Syd See my TER Reviews 485 reads
posted
18 / 28

Hi There

I had a client insisted to be FB friends and I usually don't do this. But then I did. It didn't feel right.
After few days I removed him.

Alley

mrfisher 115 Reviews 506 reads
posted
20 / 28

I have the "luxury" of advanced years and a safe career to shield me from the pernicious effects of not being on social media, that is, the fact that a young person going out into the world who is not on FB or some other social media is going to be black-balled by many employers if they do not have some SM presence.

In some respects, I cannot think of a sadder fact about present day life than that.  It is the end of one of our most cherished dreams:  privacy.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 551 reads
posted
21 / 28

through the story about the Borg:  A race where each member was always connected to each other telepathically:

They were not very nice people, by the way.

ponyman49 15 Reviews 649 reads
posted
22 / 28

This is true, I read a report on all the information that FB has on their clients and you name it they either have it or access to it. This is the very reason I don't and wont ever have a FB page. It was shocking at the amount of personal info they can get on someone using their site

2648667 31 Reviews 431 reads
posted
23 / 28

BTW, in bringing up the topic of the Borg, you could've gone Jeri Ryan but you went with Patrick instead. What's up with that?

trex44 9 Reviews 541 reads
posted
24 / 28

Does that make Mark Zuckerberg Locates of FB?

Posted By: mrfisher
through the story about the Borg:  A race where each member was always connected to each other telepathically:  
   
 They were not very nice people, by the way.

hound_dog69 41 Reviews 466 reads
posted
25 / 28

Good suggestions.

The problem is probably linked to an app on a smartphone. You probably used the FB app for your personal FB account on your hobby phone, or they're the same phone,  maybe? The apps read your contact information.  

I had a lady email me from her hobby account using an app on her personal phone. It attached her true name to the email message.  

Keep hobby accounts and devices separate from personal. Use service apps that aren't totally intrusive  (i.e. Proton mail).

On your PC at home, use different browsers, and use private browsing mode, clear cookies & cache between sessions. Don't save passwords,  etc. Even better, learn how to run a browser from an encrypted memory stick, and use that for work.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 404 reads
posted
26 / 28

then things would not be so futile.

2648667 31 Reviews 290 reads
posted
27 / 28

LoL, right!? If she was assimilating, I wouldn't resist one bit!!

BAM! Consider me assimilated baby! LoL.

rcproam70 6 Reviews 403 reads
posted
28 / 28

I just read this thread on a search because I had the same issue happened to me with Facebook. Facebook suggested a lady I visited as a potential friend. We spent 90 minutes in the same room really was the only connection.  

I called her warned her and we both learned a spooky lesson

Ever since I've been doing this I've been worried that I would run into someone would find out personal information to blackmail me. That's just paranoia. The opposite is been through quite a few layers of actually looked out and give me tips on security. Still. No such thing as being too careful.

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