Don't leave it to our imagination, Say what you mean, and mean what you say.

Your post seeing the light of day on this board should be proof positive that you aren't talking about LP or me, but if you have a beef, AIR IT!!!

I am even easier than LP, I allow just about anything, unless it is a clear violation of TER policy. If it's something I disagree with, I am even more likely to allow it. You can't make someone look stupid if you don't allow their opinion to be made public has always been my motto. lol

All kidding aside, if you have a beef, I encourage you to make it public. Don't worry about hurting anyone's feelings. LP and I are famous for not having any.

Oh dear, you don't know me very well.  If I was being combative, you'd be in the fetal position in a pool of your tears.  I don't believe that I ever said you didn't have the right to withhold names.  What I said was that it was bullshit.  You want to take one board's matter to another to have your voice.  Then, you bitch and complain that people don't respond the way you'd like.  I haven't yet heard from the moderator you're accusing, but I'm beginning to understand why he's not responding.  There's a term that gets thrown around from time to time.  It's Drama Queen.  I'm seeing tendencies in you that make me wonder if it applies to you.

Now, to be clear, I'm drifting away from "nice" ever so slightly.  I'll be back in a few hours but without my morning coffee.  It's quite possible that I may then be combative.  If you're interested in seeing the comparison, feel free to bait me.  G'night.

Unfortunately, there seems to be alot of FAVORITISM on some boards, which says alot about the MODERATORS?.

A Client friend, a provider friend, AND "myself", cannot seem to get our posts approved....I know for a fact that if a Moderator does NOT like you, he will NOT accept your posts....Completely uncool, & unfair....

Unless it is a rude, mean post, we should all have the right to our opinion & have it posted....I have seen plenty of threads that should have been PULLED, and yet "my/& friends" simple posts do not get approved...

What is going on?.

Peace

V

That's kind of a bullshit post.  I'm not sure why it's posted on this board, but my real issue is that you called out "moderators" yet didn't specify which one(s).  If you're going to toss down the gauntlet, go all in.  Besides, there are lots of reasons why posts get denied.  I have 659 pages of denied posts, just for the boards that I moderate, and I allow damn near anything.  That's almost as many posts as this board has.  If you'd name the other people that are being excluded, perhaps we could have an interesting discussion.  Otherwise, you're just blowing off steam.  That's cool, if that's the plan, but you'd be doing it at someone else's expense.

-- Modified on 10/8/2010 4:20:08 AM

Every once in awhile, a real world situation occurs that can take us away from our comfort zone in front of our computer screens.

Today was one of those days for me, and as often happens, Murphy decided to have fun at my expense to just make things worse. And so, I did not get to my VOLUNTEER position as Moderator untl 1:30am Pacific time, and had some 50 posts in my queue... including one from you.

I haven't approved it. Yet. I haven't approved any of the 50 other posts. Yet. Why? Because i have to sit here and keep my jovial personality on a steroid boost to keep from letting my anger at your chickenshit accusations and the subsequent forced waste of my time show through.

YES, I DID SAY ALL THAT IN ONE BREATH!

First of all... I do not have an agenda, and I do not play favorites. Yes, there are certainly some providers and hobbyists with whom I enjoy varying degrees of camaraderie and even kinship. But when it comes to Moderating the boards, Da Rulz is Da Rulz, simple as that.

You on the other hand, have had a chip on your shoulder for as long as I have seen your posts, in both logon userid as well as aliases going back to before I became a moderator. Your tone is almost always bellicose and confrontational, sometimes going over the line into TER guideline violations. THOSE are the posts of yours I disallow. The ones that violate TER's guidelines.

You were unmoderated at one time Vanessa1000... but you lost that priviledge and you have nobody to blame for that but yourself.

As for not responding to your PM; I refuse to be drawn into an argument with you over a semantic issue you felt the need to gnaw on like a bitch in heat chewing a tic off her tail.

Vanessa1000, you have been in violation of these specific TER guidelines in the past:

A -

*** DO NOT WRITE IN ALL UPPER-CASE. ***

B -

Linking to a site which meets any of the following criteria in a post is prohibited:      

... Is absolutely irrelevant to the subject ...

C -

...Posting mean or rude comments in response to a provider's AD is prohibited. ...

D -
USE OF ALIASES

Posting rude and mean comments while hiding under an ALIAS will be reported to the site Admin for evaluation.


AND that is why you remain moderated.

I've had to tell you in the past to tone down the rhetoric. Consider yourself lucky I'm a lardass, not a hardass. Others might have already revoked your posting priviledges entirely, instead of letting you continue to bark like a junkyard dog and reining you in when you start foaming at the mouth.

So... to finalize this pompous piece of printed palaver properly, this is my answer to your PM I didn't not bother to respond to because i refused to dignify it with a response. But here goes:

YES the LA board is MY board. No I don't own it, no it is not MINE where i make the rules, but I'm the Moderator for the LA board, its MY responsibility to make sure TER's guidelines are followed. Now you know DAMNED well exactly what I meant by that, yet you felt the need to try to draw me into an argument over something as petty as your attempt to spin my statement into some Mad Mod Power Trip.

Vanessa1000, you are an angry, bellicose and confrontational human being. But I know there is good in you, I can feel it. I've read some of your more impassioned posts defending the girls. Release your anger, let go of the Hate. The force is within all of us. So is the desire for a good orgasm. Maybe that's your answer.

I won't tell you to go fuck yourself... but I will suggest you go get laid.

*** Phil, if you feel this went over the line, you may redact or remove or delete or whatever voodoo you got to do to do the right thing for you. But if you do, please remove this last paragraph to you.

Why are you taking this so "personal"......I said SOME boards, not all of them....

I am not doing ANYTHING at someone else's expense, as I did not mention the names of ANY Moderators., and never will....

Blowing off steam?.....Probably.....Also looking for feedback, which I received 2 so far through PM's....

The KEY word was "SOME" boards, not ALL....

My response wasn't personal at all.  I simply suggested that the Las Vegas board was an unusual venue to complain about "some" moderators holding back your posting.  I know that it wasn't me, because I can see your posts on my boards, and they've all been posted.

My point was that if you're going to bring it up, you SHOULD name the moderator.  Perhaps what he's doing IS unfair, and he should be chastised for it.  In the current state, all you're doing is bitching.  Not any different than the guy complaining that he was NCNS'd on, but won't name the provider.  It does nobody any good.  Additionally, since I can see where you post, I can guess who you're referring to.  Perhaps you'd prefer ME to name him for you?  At least then he'd know to defend himself.  Honestly, I'd never do that, because I think that is also bullshit.  So, I'm not offended by what you wrote.  I think that you're doing the community a disservice by not naming the mod that you're accusing, and I think that you're shitting on someone without the decency to give him a chance to respond.

I hope that clears up my point of view.

Your comment about me having a possible READING COMPREHENSION problem, was very rude., and UNNECESSRY......I did have a learning disability issue in school, did you want to make fun of "THAT"....You are going waaaaaay OFF topic here!.

I have the right to withhold names, and have gotten enough PM's to confirm it is not only me (& my 2 friends).....That is all I wanted to know.....

And to answer your question about "confronting" the Moderator?....I have, and got no reply!.

Peace out...

V

Am I not allowed to post here?.....I choose this board, because I felt that most of the people were FAIR., and KIND.....

I am sorry you feel like I am SH___ING on someone, & that my post is BULL___IT....

I  got exactly what I wanted through PM's, so all is good.....

You haven't yet heard from the moderator I am "accusing"?.....That's funny, cuz I haven't accused ANYONE!.

Now....................................Who is the "DRAMA QUEEN" here??......Hmmmmmmm

.... & callout the moderator you have a beef with if your going to make all these lame posts!

I can just imagine why your client's post was rejected...prob. shilling for you.

You just got OWNED!!

my posts are immediately approved; however, about half dozen times in the past,I've had posts
"pulled"; Does that count as being " moderated" ?

As for the "whining" individual in question , it would behoove her to do 3 things, so she wouldn't be moderated :

1. Read the TER guidelines.

2. Show some form of elemental judgment.

3. Get a larger client base so she wouldn't have the time to endlessly complain on this board.

If you weren't allowed to post here, why would I be approving them?  Would you go to one hotel to complain about a different location?  If you wanted to bitch about the problem in general, the logical place would be either the board that you're bitching about, or the general discussion board.  Don't you just hate Texans?  Sorry, this seemed to be a perfect spot for the question.

Oh, and before I run to DQ to get my banana split, the only post that you've had denied in the last week was on the Los Angeles board, so I did some high level deductive reasoning and came to the conclusion that the moderator you're bitching about is Doc Gonzo.  Feel free to not mention his name, because we wouldn't want him to have a chance to defend himself.

I have had SEVERAL posts denied (not just one), and sometimes use an "alias".....I at least had enough Balls to use my TER handle this time....I post on several boards, not just LA...

I will NOT mention my "friends" who also have trouble posting, because one is a reviewer., and the other is a provider....They could possibly have something to loose, while "I" would not.....

Thank you for spending so much TIME on this thread, as I appreciate the special attention....

xoxoxo

Unless you've skirted another rule, you have had just one denied in the last week.  Matter of fact, it was on the LA board today, and the first word of the subject is "Zoe".  There's another still in the queue, awaiting approval.  So, I'm done, and so are you.  Don't waste your time typing, because I can assure you that it won't be posted, no matter if it's nice, mean, or mildly disturbed.  TTFN

fucking right they play favorites! anyone who doesn't fucking whine is a favorite of theirs. business slow i'm guessing?

DISCLAIMER: I have never been on the LA BOARD, and have no KNOWLEDGE of what goes one there.

I have never interacted with the OP or the Mod from LA.My comments come from my personal expererience here and elsewhere.
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" D - USE OF ALIASES
Posting rude and mean comments while hiding under an ALIAS will be reported to the site Admin for evaluation."

Really????????? Hmmm.

Favoratism abounds. And why not? Mods are human.  Doesn't mean it's right and doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

TERs POSTED RULES are very loosely "interpreted" at times. Even addtional rules, of sort, have been posted by Mods.

Jack_Schitt is a good example. He's the "angry, bellicose and confrontational human being" and mostly start controversy. Clear favoratism exists by allowing his comments, but not allowing many of his posts when others far milder are pulled...other have tha same opinion.

I've been attacked by an alias and by a TER handle. It was allowed. Then my RESPONSE in kind got my posts pulled. And once moderated! BUT NOT THE ATTACKER. Why? they call it the "good ol' boys club" where I'm from.

This post is not meant to be accusitory or provocative to any specific person.  

But being long in tooth, and having been in a whole lotta rodeos (as they say)... EVERYWHERE someone has power (ie authority & responsibility, they screw up from time-to-time. Some more than others, some WORSE than others--whether paid or volunteer-- and very, very few will EVER admit to it, and IF they do its often justified by how important their responsibilities are and how that it far more importsnt that the screw up.

(Trust me. With over 20 years in goverment work, I've witnessed the cream of the crop of rationalization of unfairness, favoritism and mistakes.)

That's the way of the world. The boards are not immune.



HalfHour

does the term "evaluation" mean something different to you? not to worry, a mangina only board is forthcoming i'm told. that way pussies like you can share interaction with old fat hookers in a way which others who prefer their meat more tender won't offend you.

While everyone who has seen her posts knows Vanessa's argumentativeness, was it really necessary to bring this to the GD board and parade it in front of the general populace? I don't think GND ever would have done that...the posters posting privileges would have just been yanked.

Sigh.

... but I own it when it happens, and try to make it right when I can. Doesn't always work out that way, obviously, but its not for lack of trying.

Do I play favorites? Not intentionally, no. I go out of my way to make sure I'm as objective as possible.  Have I made mistakes? Yes.

Do I lose sleep over it? Depends on the mistake and who was affected by it. so far, the only time I've ever lost sleep over a mistake was when I let this well-known provider crash at my place. Didn't get much sleep that night, but my booze cabinet was empty the next day. BIG mistake!

I had a post removed by beatpoet. I "accidentally" posted on the NY board, using one of my *known aliases, thinking I was in D.C.
I was furious. I couldn't sleep.How dare him remove my post. Its all I thought about all day. I was offended to the tenth degree.It was humiliating. I wondered who else noticed my post had been removed .
I'm not sure why it was removed other than he might have known I was lost. Or perhaps he read my post as empty  poetic injustice. At first I was  upset, longing to make a scene.I almost posted about it on the Tijuana board but I figured why stress them out just because I was insulted.  I too can be a drama queen, but I prefer you call me King or at least Prince..Then I remembered what DocGonzo had to say.  ...I went and got laid and forgot about it.  I had a nice day, though I did have to pay.

* Aliases are well known by many of us.Its not rocket science.

TERs POSTED RULES are very loosely "interpreted" at times. Even addtional rules, of sort, have been posted by Mods.
"Jack_Schitt is a good example"He's the "angry, bellicose and confrontational human being" and mostly start controversy. Clear favoratism exists by allowing his comments, but not allowing many of his posts when others far milder are pulled...other have tha same opinion."

 JS is the sarcastic altar ego of a well know sarcastic poster. He is often joking  when he is serious. If you care to notice, JS speaks in general terms and not  personal attacks. He knows what he can get away with,while laughing at the feather ruffling ruckus, he caused.



 

 

Why don't you come moderate the Phoenix board, it's so quite, it won't take you but a few minutes a day.

Thank you for that!

This is the perfect example I speak of:

You call me a "pussy". It's rude, mean-spirited and against the rules.

Now if if I WERE to call you a "coward" (WHICH I AM NOT DOING) for using an alias, I would be moderated by one Mod for breaking his personal rule.



By the way, JS. This has nothing to do if I am or am not offended, nor if you are or are not. Thi is about even-handed moderation without bias $ favorism -- my point stands.

--- on a side note:

I'm a big boy I can take it. Probanlt more than you will have a chance to know.

But a good portion of the sarcasm and edge is dished out around here is by those who CAN'T take it themselves. Or it's directed to those who don't deserve it, or will be driven away by it. That's where the real cowardice shows.

Word-to-word, toe-to-toe, or even face-to-face, I am who I am, and am not offended, nor intimidated in the least by anyone. Somake whatever comment about me you like. Hell, if it's actually funny, I'll even laugh.



HalfHour

hopefully that was clear in my post. BTW, props to you for a clear and straight up response to my opinion.



HalfHour

This is priceless.  

Anyone who wants to be a whipping boy and take a mod position, TER is accepting applications.

Have you asked the mod in question before going all postal and accusatory on the boards?  We are all adults and don't mind answering these types of things.  Usually there is a very good reason why you would perceive this to be happening.

-- Modified on 10/8/2010 3:15:48 PM

There is definitely favoritism.  I got kicked off a site once because I was responding to pm's about a provider and well this provider was a mess and went downhill. I obviously wrote a review and warned people about her and her pimp.  I guess she had an admins/mods balls in her purse cause she told me he told her about them, and eventually, a day or 2, I was kicked off the site.

Yes there is, but that is unavoidable as long as we have human moderators. I think for the most part the moderators that I am familiar do a descent job even the moderator that recently moderated me. Although I wish she was a bit easer to discuss it with her. And from my limited experience mostly on this board the moderators let you posts go even if they disagree with you. Is there favoritism? Yes but as far as I can tell it is not that bad and the moderators that I am familiar with try to be fair. Give them a break as it is a crappy job and they are not paid. I have see far worse.


P.S. I have never posted on the LA board or any other board that is moderated DoctorGonzo, but still all the moderators I have dealt with have at least tried to be fair even when I have not agreed with them.

I look at this way scoed...it's a dudes board and in my estimation they can get away with a bit more than the ladies...just look at the crap Schitt Cranium and toads just like him, get away with. And it's because the mods know who he is and he is a frequent board contributor and reviewer under his alter ego...personally I think JS is his true persona and he has to clean it up in order for anyone to take him seriously, let alone book with anyone that is not substance impaired, in a coma or dead.

I just accept it and play knowing that.

Additionally, there will also be variability in how the various boards are moderated. The GD board is fairly liberal and lets a fair amount of Schitt fly. I can't say if it is good or bad for the board, as each board has it's own personality based on the mix of posters.

What I can say about vanessa1000 is that I agree she is wasting breath ranting and not being willing to name the MOD (her choice for both - to post and to not name the MOD). Hell, maybe she is trolling for others or whatever. As much as I think she is off, I think the OP was not that bad, though she did dig herself in (IMO) with her follow-on posts.

I do find it odd that she can garner this much attention (OK, I know she's calling out the mods) when some schitt-heads post much worse.

Closing, I do think the point of these boards, to a degree, is to allow things to be unresolved (not suggesting this is the best example). To have dissenting opinions hanging out there.

I wanted to say something lastnight, but held my tongue(if you can fucking believe that) because I wanted to see how the mods were going to handle this.

I've personally met 2 mods, different situations, but involved me drinking a lot. One not so much as me, the other not at all.

I'm going to meet 2 more mods here real quick like. One I'm going to drink under the table, the other we agreed to meet because we had a beef and have since learned to deal with our differences.

Do any of them show any favoritism towards me? Yes and no.

Yeah, some of them let me get away with certain crap. But when I go way the hell overboard they're the first ones to moderate my ass.

And you know what the kicker about that is? Sometimes, when I KNOW I'm going to be a total asshole for some reason or other, I'll PM them and TELL them to moderate me. Just for the night, till I get out whatever the fuck it is in my system. They oblige, and it's done.

Has anyone else ever done that? I don't know. I'm not trying to make precedence here, just sayin'.

I've been moderated more times than I care to count, and the same goes for posts being pulled.

Does it bother me? Not really. On occasion I will PM them and say 'WTF?' But they come back with the reason why they did it. And believe it or not, I can be a reasonable person, and accept why they did it.

So, vanessa, I didn't read each and every post on this thread, but correct me if I'm wrong. I'm under the impression you feel you've been wronged by a certain(maybe 2?) mod, and need to vent and rally around the troops that feel the same?

I can certainly understand frustration. One point I was not only moderated, I was dead on these boards for a month. The only thing I could do was PM. I could read your shit, but mine was thrown to the curb.

BTW, one of the mods I talked about above? He's the one that busted my ass. Do I have any ill will towards him? Not in the slightest bit. We sat at the same table for dinner one night with a group of friends and laughed about it.

Lady, I don't know what to tell you other than maybe if you and your friends are so disgusted with certain mods maybe you should do something about it. They're not above us, just because they moderate us. They're hobbyists just like me and the guys you see.

But I do agree it's chickenshit to hide behind an alias and make accusations. That's just me. If I have a problem with someone(s), I want them to know where it's coming from.

Granted, the mods know who you are because they can see where the posts are coming from.

But if you're going to blast the mods, or anybody else for that matter, it would give you more cred if you let the community know who you really are and whom you're talking about.

I mean, I can't take you seriously because for all I know you might be Jack Schitt on the rag. Know what I mean?

Anyway, good luck with your crusade. As far as I'm concerned, being a drunken lowlife, whoremonger, I'm sure my words don't mean shit to you.

Fucking peace, lady....

Let me reiterate something. The mods are not paid to sit here and deal with our shit. They do it because of their dedication to this lifestyle we ALL have chose to embrace.

Yeah, the ladies get paid, and we get laid.

But when some certain gents take the time out of their personal lives to sit there and go through each and every que(sp?), shaking their heads at some, laughing at others, and decide which ones are relevant, offensive, or just plain entertaining, this is time taken away from their families(if they have any), or other pursuits or interests.

By no means are they angels. But, in my experience, they've been more than helpful when I asked and when I needed it, whether by my hand or their's.

Same goes for some other hobbyists and providers as well.

Yeah, I'm drinkin'. Can ya tell?!

I fully agree. Are the moderators perfect? No, but they do us a service and do it as good as can be expected.