...want to stay safe....(actually have had 3 friends pass from this virus)....sex without kissing wont happen for me...gang-how do feel about this....any ideas on other ways of being intimate....my tongue IS attached to my cock....

How did your three friends die? How did they contract the virus?

SARS-CoV-2 is spread in exhalations, not just spit or mucus. Moist air comes up and out from deep in the lungs, the throat, and sinuses. It carries microdroplets that contain virus. The microdroplets hang in the air for long periods of time. Infection happens by person to person transfer THROUGH THE AIR!  
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Remember those hotbeds of infection? The Korean church accounted for a huge number of cases in Korea. The guy in New Rochelle had attended a wedding in Florida where it was thought that he picked up the infection. Back in NY, he attended religious services where he infected others and it set off the NY firestorm. As far as I recall from the news stories, he was not swapping spit with fellow worshipers or licking their private parts. There might have hand shaking but, mostly, he was breathing in their vicinity and they breathed in what he breathed out.

The guy there WAS responsible for the outbreak in New Rochelle itself but not primarily for what happened in NYC. That outbreak has been traced to Europe and came through Kennedy Airport.

I don't think BPs advice was all that good either. It's not that it is completely wrong but just seems to miss a major source.

The virus is not coming from the mouth, it's coming from the lungs, your hydrogen peroxide rinse is going to protect you only until she/you takes your next breath.  

I need the passion, the erotic moment and that includes kissing. With what's going on we all want to be safe. You just have to roll the dice. The way I look at it, I'm very healthy and I'm sure whoever joins me will be fine,
I just don't really think about it, it's mind over matter...you don't mind it don't matter.

As I was reading GaGa's post, I realized why his claim that SW's are in a much lower risk category makes sense.  
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A SW will see a few clients a day, maybe as many as 6 to 10 if she is a "high volume" provider.  But a person working at a job that requires facing customers (i.e.: a grocery store) might be face to face (with masks and perhaps barriers) with 20 to 40+ people a day.  So the type of activity you have with a SW may be more risky, but the number of times she (and therefore you) might me exposed is lower, which means less risk.  
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As always, it's a trade off... except with one option you get laid, and with the other you might get fucked. :p  
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Life is good.
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The Cat

The other thing is most good providers are actively monitoring - they don't want to get sick either. They are probably much less risk but probably more concerned about catching it and taking precautions as are the good agencies.  

(Tom Lehrer, "Pollution")

Try more like a couple hundred a day. I posted previously about this but it seem the leftists on here don't want to hear it.
Anyhow, I did my own informal poll last week here in Chicago at three groceries stores and an Ace hardware. I asked had ANYONE gotten sick their stores since this whole lockdown began? The answer at all four stores thank God was no...is this ancedotal evidence, of course it is. Still it does confirm MY suspicions.  The suburban restaurants here are finally opening up today and I'm heading out tonight for dinner/ drinks and LIVE MUSIC TOO...time to finally MOVE ON!!

My bad. The wedding guest guy did go into Manhattan (lawyer in Mahnattan?). And NYS physically  quarantined a section of New Rochelle to stop the spread from there.

Don't know what the rules are for the reopening where you are but two observations.

I keep thinking about kissing and it's freaking me out. Not sure why, I don't mind putting a cock in my mouth, but - this is all really nerve-wracking for me going back to work tbh.

If not, what are you going to do if a new client shows up based on your reviews with certain expectations and you shoot him down once he gets there? Do you plan on refunding his money? Enquiring minds want to know. lol

As of May 28, there have been 10,000 deaths of females in your age group in the US from call causes since Feb 1.  Only 400 were from COVID-19.  For those under 50 both sexes the current CDC IFR (infection fatality rate) is 0.05%.  Although you are in the age group most likely to get the disease, you are in the age group of those least likely to die from it.  

I’ll admit this isn’t terribly practical as a solution. But at least there is one.
You could simply require clients to show that they have donated blood recently. The places I’ve been are testing for COVID-19. Specifically for antibodies so they can ask you to come back and donate plasma..
Yes, I know thee are all sorts of drawbacks to this approach.  
But I think just knowing that there is at least one way to be sure you are safe is a big help.
But maybe that’s just me.

During the COVID scare, everything is YMMV at this point. It is offered, but if someone shows up and there seem to be multiple risk factors like they themselves are high-risk clients, we will take precautions.

It is simply preposterous to think that two people can engage intimately in close quarters and that virus risks are effectively muted or eliminated because the two do not kiss (or DFK).  If a provider is working nowadays, he or she has created an environment to get or spread the virus.  No judgment here, but let's at least be honest about it.  The fact that a provider needs money has nothing to do with the risk of virus transmission.  It's real.  Be safe.

Why not disclose this before screening?  What is a high-risk COVID client?  Is this synonymous with a high volume client?  Is race a factor in determining whether or not a client is a high-risk COVID client?  Are you going to take their temperature?

If you see a provider who has COVID and you don't kiss, you are still going to get COVID and if a provider sees a client that has COVID and they don't kiss, then she is still going to get COVID.  Whether or not you kiss is irrelevant to whether or not you get COVID.  

What exactly determines a "high risk" client in your book?

Kissing or not kissing is irrelevant.  You two have zero social distance, and are in intimate contact for an hour.  Saliva, and sweat get shared.  If she has it, they you will likely get it.   When they take our temperature, we should also take theirs.

Anyone who contacts me or researches me knows before screening it’s YMMV before screening and we chat beforehand before we meet to assure a connection.  

In a 3-month period, I saw over 40 different providers, and didn't catch anything.  I took the Covid-19 test once a month.  All negative, and I recently took that serum antibody test, also negative.  (I was actually hoping this one would be positive).  Some new precautions were in order; most didn't allow any touching until I had washed my hands and  face with soap, and took a shower.  After that, it was a normal GFE session with each of them.  

Has anyone seen a provider who was positive for COVID-19, quarantined, recovered, and is now seeing clients? One of my ATF's, a single mom with a couple of kids, experienced this in April. She went through it alone as the kids went to live their father for two weeks while she recovered. Her kids returned, she's likely seen a few of her regulars (like me...) and is quite healthy. If you've ever experienced anything like this, would be interested in knowing your feelings on whether or not to see her, engage in kissing, et al......

Are you worried she will somehow transfer her antibodies to you and you won't be able to become infected with coronavirus, or what?  I would suggest reading the science on antibodies in general and see what the dangers are in seeing someone that has them.  Would you pass on someone who had the measles or chicken pox when they were a kid just because they have antibodies floating around in their blood?

The two weeks recovery might be soon but that depends a lot on the person and the severity it seems. I think most of the reports regarding reinfection or testing positive again after recovery were largely two types. Some had false tests indicating they were really free from the virus and the other was that the RNA was triggering the positive test result but is it self not infectious or able to replicate.

Doing more reading, the bottom line is if the provider (or client) has Covid-19 and you have sex with them (other than through a glory hole for 5 minutes one and done), you're going to get the virus. (see embedded link).

This has been repeated several times (see link). The most likely way you're going to get the virus is being in an enclosed area for prolonged periods of time; most likely with people vocalizing (choir, call center, loud manufacturing environment (meat packing facility, spaced tightly together).  

on a deserted beach is just fine.  Count me in.  

Just kiss another part of the gal’s body besides her lips. Problem solved.

Not only can you fuck on the beach (at night of course) but on many of the beaches in Colombia you can have anything you want brought right down to the beach to you, right up to having a gourmet meal catered to you right down on the sand.

wasn't meant to be kissed, it wouldn't have lips, right?

made me wonder how far sperm can swim in open water.  Anybody ever do research?

Make sure it's with someone where you have stopped using condoms, Even bareback much of the sensation is lost, I can't imagine trying to fuck in the ocean while wearing a condom. I doubt I'd be able to feel a thing.

I think I tried to schedule something with you years ago, but our schedules just didn't seem to work or something.  I will agree that you've always been portrayed by yourself and others as YMMV.  As far as offering or not offering somethimg, thats your perogative IMHO.

But there is no denying that you aren't at least a little bit fucking nuts. Not that that's a bad thing of course. lol

In my area the high risk group is Hispanic and Latino.