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Providers Calling ME -- Bad Business
joercny 17 Reviews 4874 reads
posted
1 / 27

I've been in the hobby at least seven years but never once did I get a call from out of the blue from a provider.  And it's happened TWICE in the last two weeks.  Both were excellent women whom I'd seen several times, and might have again.  But I hadn't seen either at least FOUR MONTHS!  No contact.  Nada. Suddenly, they're calling me.  Once, I was in the middle of a meeting and that was awkward, but I dealt with it.  I mean, I'm flattered and all but I somehow don't buy that these girls miss me like they said -- after OVER 4 months!  Also, isn't some discretion called for on behalf of providers?  I mean, I NEVER gave the providers my number, they captured it via caller ID.  Also, the providers could have been calling my wife at home for all they knew.  It's not like I had an ongoing conversation or relationship with these girls.

What gives?  Are you other guys getting calls from long ago appointments?  Providers, are things so slow you're going through your Palm Pilots from A to Z?  And what the #@*& is my name and number doing in your Palm -- if I didn't EVER give it to you?  In this case, calling me backfired but good.  The only thing I want to do with a provider who captured any personal info without my permission is put as much TIME between ME and HER.  Am I over reacting? Or has providers calling clients to drum up business become the new etiquette of the economy?  Is it THAT bad out there?

CelticLass 3385 reads
posted
2 / 27

You know I have to agree with you on this one. I have heard this complaint from many of my gents. While many of them give me their numbers and tell me to call anytime, I will always e-mail first. Because after our first initial meeting all that information goes bye bye. I have even had a gent or two get irratated with me when I ask for their numbers again, and I have to explain that I don't keep that information anywhere.

There is a chance you did cross their minds and/or they saw a post by you that triggered a memory and they wanted to see how you were. But it is bad form to just call out of no where. E-mail first is always the best approach.

I am sorry this has shyed you away from 2 ladies you obviously had a great time with. I think at some point we all forget discretion in a small way and want to chat with someone we had a great time with. But stepping out of the realm and contacting someone unexpectidly always causes problems in one sense or another.

So, IMHO, no your not over reacting. You have good reason to be miffed. I wouldn't nessacarily blame it on a slow economy, but more just steppoing out of the box and forgetting the rules of the game.

xoxox
Lass

BuckNekked 1 Reviews 3659 reads
posted
3 / 27

from a provider I never saw. I had made the initial contacts and then met with a different girl I felt better about. Then the other day I get a call fro her on the way home from an event with my whole family in the car....*shiver*

MfSD 39 Reviews 7071 reads
posted
5 / 27

Mixed emotions. Your point is well taken about calling a number, with the ladies not knowing who might pick up.

On the other hand, I use a segregated number, for hobby use only, and do ocassionally get calls from ladies, inquiring as to my well being, and offering specials, or just wanting to chat.

And you're right, it is always flattering to have a lady call, regardless of her line of work, because frankly, just as we have our favorites, the ladies do too. MfSD.

ps. Marco waves to Lass ( :

HazlEyes 6 Reviews 3782 reads
posted
6 / 27

Joe, different subject - I'm curious about your follow-up meeting with the "semi-pro" lady you mentioned previously.  Any success?  Inquiring minds want to know... :)

JD100MI 14 Reviews 3648 reads
posted
7 / 27

Okay Buck, you tapped into my greatest fear here.  If I answered call while my family was in the car I'd hate to think what would happen.  See, the problem is... I'm a bad liar.  Better for me not to pick up at all.

So how did you play off the call?

JoeyTheBoy 28 Reviews 2825 reads
posted
8 / 27

In the beginning of my involvement, this used to happen to me a lot.  Mostly, when the provider captures the number--these days I have a number that only I can access--live and learn!

Joey

tallygator 1 Reviews 3351 reads
posted
9 / 27

What do you mean "a number only I can access"?  Is it secure from caller id?  How about 800 billing? Thanks

joercny 17 Reviews 2827 reads
posted
10 / 27

None of the things you mentioned in your post apply -- like they saw a post of mine and wanted to catch up.  It was more of "when are you coming to see me?"  Answer: Now?  Never.

BaileyB 2461 reads
posted
11 / 27

Discretion is definitely the name of the game.

Giving out information (for clearance) has been a subject on these boards on several occassions.  I, for one, am reluctant about giving someone too much info.  This is one more example of why.  It's also a reason that you may tend to use the same person or agency.  However, it doesn't help with variety....

This is just one more situation where discretion was not honored.  If the reverse was done, the lady would be nervous and/or miffed and rightfully so.

HiProGlo 3905 reads
posted
12 / 27

I have a private number with SBC's Privacy Manager on it. My calls are forwarded selectively to my cell phone.  Any numbers that are blocked or unlisted will not ring until they have identified themselves by voice.  I had two incidents after I became involved with a former SO (not a wife) where I received unsolicited calls from providers that I had seen in the past, presumably to drum up some business.

Perhaps I'm insensitive or acerbic, but I have no problem saying "Wrong Number, don't call back. . .ever.", or just hanging up even if there is no one around.

Irregardless of whether I have seen the provider or not, I make it abundantly clear in no uncertain terms that any and all contact is done by email before voice contact is made. No exceptions, ever. I feel that providers have every right to protect their privacy however they see fit, to expect otherwise from me is unrealistic.

HPG

CelticLass 5495 reads
posted
13 / 27

sorry if I hit a sore spot. I as just trying to maybe give a scenario. Its like I said, whether they were catching up or drumming up business, its all Bad Form. Some of these girls just dont get it when it comes to discretion.

mbsouthpaw 16 Reviews 5072 reads
posted
14 / 27

I've gotten cold called by both providers I've seen and by a few I haven't.  The former don't bother me.  Like Marco, I find it somewhat flattering to hear from a beautiful woman, even if deep down I know the lead purpose of the call isn't really just to catch up.  However, calls from strangers bother me greatly.  While I'm not so naive as to believe that providers actually dispose of client contact info, I still like to kid myself into believing that, at the very least, they don't share it with strangers.  Unfortunately, experience has proven me wrong on this count.

IamSilky 3600 reads
posted
15 / 27

Calling an old client or new client is never a good idea, unless you have been asked to return a call and given the # by him....For alot of reasons, but concideration has to cut both ways....We all have lives outside of this "Fantasy World" of ours and none of us need to have any unexpected surprises...I usually take the phone off the hook during a session, but once, I went to answer the door, just as the phone began to ring. I decided to let it go to Voice Mail. When my client and I got into my room, we both heard the tail end of the message left by another client,"I miss sucking those big tits of your, and can't wait until you pussy is dripping wet for me lover.......Bla Bla Bla...!!!" I was in shock...Luckily the client with me, was a regular and just laughed with me. But what if it had been a repair man or neighbor, or even a family member..!!!! Not Kool....Remember consideration and descretion run both ways....Licks, Robyn

SweetJaclyn 3190 reads
posted
16 / 27

I don't think that you're over reacting!!!  You have every right to be upset.  A provider should never call you for any reason.  Well, there is one exception:  If you're late to an appointment and she needs to see if you're still coming.... But, there's not even a reason that FOUR months later, she should still have your information!!!  IMHO that's unethical!!!  I agree with Lass.... some girls have absolutely no sense of discretion whatsoever!!!  They make the rest of us look bad!!!  

Even though I am not the one that called you, I'm sorry that you had to go through that.

xoxo
Jaclyn :)

Yellow Feather 4475 reads
posted
17 / 27

I had this Internet girlfriend about four years ago, when I was still married. She wasn't a provider, but she did something similar. She was piqued because I wouldn't give her my address or phone number; I always called her. She wanted to know why she couldn't call me "in the daytime."   H-E-L-L-O because I'm married. Duh!

Getting back to the hobby, I've heard of providers getting caught, then making a deal with the LE (probably for a lighter sentence). They call the clients and lure them into a sting.

Someone on here suggested setting up a code word with the provider, one that she could use if she was calling on behalf of the LE.

HootOwl 49 Reviews 3549 reads
posted
18 / 27

The one time I received a call from a provider was very shortly after I had been laid-off.  She was clearly looking to drum up business.  When I told her I would be curtailing my activity owing to my new financial situation (and her gift is on the high end for NYC), she let it be known the conversation had come to an end.  

-Hoot.

kimfromholland 4771 reads
posted
19 / 27

Heard from a few clients that there were a few girls writing them to see them because they read their reviews about me ( not on this site but on another..)and liked the way they wrote..
I don't mind that they did that..but a few clients didn't like it..

sedonasandiego See my TER Reviews 3788 reads
posted
20 / 27

This is just astounding! I'm embarrassed reading it! I have emailed a couple of clients just simply because I enjoy them and it was to drop a line and say hello. No pressure, no, hey, how come you haven't called or anything. I would NEVER call, unless they were expecting it. Unbelievable..
I think the post about LE was a good idea, though, and maybe we should work out something in case a scenario (particularly in SD) like that ever happened. Good idea.


xo,
Sedona

aphroditez 5052 reads
posted
21 / 27

I agree with you also.  I have had several of my regulars inquire as to whether or not biz has been slow as of late because of unwanted and unsolicited calls from other ladies they have seen in the not so distant past.  It left them angered for there were a couple of them that had been called at very compromising times.  

The number one protocol within this forum is discretion and as of late it seems as if that protocol has been pushed aside without regard to the consequences.  

Has it been slow in this forum?  Honestly, yes, it is, but it always has been a slow time of the year as everyone recoupes from the holidays and such.  Things always pick up in March or as spring fever hits.  The warmer months always the busy times.  

Those ladies with their wits about them compensate for those times of the year without compromising herself or her clients.  These attempts to drum up business only hurts them in the long run, for like you, those ladies that called those clients will not be hearing from them ever again because of breaking protocol and making those gents feel compromised.  Unknowingly they have hurt themselves.

A lesson for the gents.  They need to inquire about a ladies policies regarding their information.  I let each gent know that when our meeting is over, the information is lost and to please not be offended if I repeatedly ask for a number again when he contacts me, for it i both our needs for discretion that I am looking out for.  Gents also understand that I never call unless it is prearranged for Murphy's Law, no matter how well intentioned, always seems to rear its ugly head.  Perhaps a little more on the paranoid side, but gents do seem to appreciate where I am coming from and do think it adds to the comfort level.

A lesson for the ladies also.  In seeing this sudden disregard for discretionary needs, the ending result is detrimental to what she is trying to accomplish, no matter how well intentioned she may be.

These calls these ladies made to the clients has on the other hand helped me a great deal, for those gents, quite shaken, have called on me knowing my policies and take great comfort in that fact.  One of those gents has booked me into April.  

Bragging?  No.  I am just giving a little insight to what the reprecussions may be in not following protocol for one and how one can have ample enough bookings to make it even through the slow times by just following the simple rules of protocol in this forum.

Lauren

BuckNekked 1 Reviews 3758 reads
posted
22 / 27

I figured out what was up, I played the tried and true, "Sorry, you must have a wrong number." Then I shut off my phone to escape any further calls tht day.

joercny 17 Reviews 4628 reads
posted
23 / 27
greywolf 17 Reviews 3947 reads
posted
24 / 27

First of all my own situation is likely different as I live alone & thus don't have the risk of either being "discovered" or embarrassed, nor do I have an employment situation where others could be made aware of my activities.  

The calls I get are usually from gals I've seen several times & established a good rapport with beyond just good sack-time.  Sure the calls are sometimes are along the lines of I've-missed-you-been-a-long-time-when-can-we-get-together-again? but also often just to say hi & chat a bit about whatever...same thing happens with email.  I seriously doubt these gals would either phone or email if they thought there was any way it would cause a problem.

But as long as we're talking about "bad business" there's something that has happened a couple of times that really frosts me...& it's been done by GUYS.  A couple of damn jackasses have revealed to the gal exactly what I said in my review of her, including my numerical ratings, when she wasn't a VIP members & would have had no way of knowing.  It happened twice involving two different gals & two different guys.  In one case the review was copied & emailed, in the other it was read verbatim over the phone.  Neither review was bad, although one gal was disappointed I hadn't rated her appearance higher, so this didn't create any problems for me--but it's still an absolutely no class thing to do..one for which there is no good reason!

Ferangi 3741 reads
posted
25 / 27
kycowboy 4441 reads
posted
26 / 27

About 5 years back I was dealing with a local provider on a regular basis. One of their models I saw quite frequently. I always took good care of her ($$) because she always took care of me when she came over.
Well, I had not dealt with the agency for 2 or 3 of weeks and I'm awakened about 7 in the morning (after a night out at the bars) by the doorbell. Here is this model on my doorstep wondering if she could get an advance on our next "date" (promising a discount the next time I called) because she was short of cash and needed to fill perscriptions for her sick daughter.
Fortunately I lived alone at the time and had not brought a lady home from the club that morning. But, I do live in an apartment and that could have been a little difficult explaining to a neighbor who may of overheard the conversation.
Being a kind soul (in case she was telling the truth) I gave her 5 or 10 bucks and sent her on her way. Needless to say I never requested her again when I called the provider.

papercup 14 Reviews 3964 reads
posted
27 / 27

Interesting idea.  But if she's already decided to sell you out to LE, why would she want to give you a signal to warn you off?  Wouldn't it spoil the deal if LE doesn't get to catch her clients?

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