Some people are “pleasers”, i.e. they get pleasure from giving others pleasure. IMO that’s an ideal type for a provider, and I know some who’ve described themselves as such—and not coincidentally they’re fantastic providers.
It’s likely I think that the OP is such a person. If so, he’d have fun pleasing women, including providers, with sex toys, and that would be part of the “value equation” when paying a provider. If someone isn’t a Pleaser, and it appears you aren’t, it may make no sense that someone would pay another person for the opportunity to please them.For many years of have been into using vibrators on women. I have owned several hitachi's with various silicon heads that many girls really enjoyed. For accessories, I have a voltage controller as well as a compatible bondage belt. Excellent in combination for edging a girl to distraction. A few years ago I got an eroscillator which has also proved reliably effective. It has a slightly different vibrating action from the hitachi. Seems mild but works wonders. I recently added the new soft tip attachment which has proved a good addition. I have recently read a lot about the womanizer style. My question for those who know, is the womanizer better than the older types? Or just different? If recommended, I'd buy one to apply when the hobby resumes. Thanks.
my tongue..or Vesper
Many providers have toys that they like low-skilled guys to use on them to get them into the mood. In your case, you are the one investing in all of this equipment, which seems from your post to be solely for THEIR pleasure, unless you are also using them on yourself as a masturbation aid. Are these ladies paying you for the services you are providing, or are you paying THEM for the opportunity to give them pleasure? I'm curious as to what the underlying dynamic is. I know there are men who pay to be submissive, i.e., peed on, shit on, butt-fucked, etc., but this doesn't appear to be the same place you're coming from. At some point, is she providing any kind of services to YOU?
Some people are “pleasers”, i.e. they get pleasure from giving others pleasure. IMO that’s an ideal type for a provider, and I know some who’ve described themselves as such—and not coincidentally they’re fantastic providers.
It’s likely I think that the OP is such a person. If so, he’d have fun pleasing women, including providers, with sex toys, and that would be part of the “value equation” when paying a provider.
If someone isn’t a Pleaser, and it appears you aren’t, it may make no sense that someone would pay another person for the opportunity to please them.
yo will know that DATY is usually part of my sessions. I will allow a specific amount of time for that, which is USUALLY sufficient to get them to an O if you know what you're doing, but some girls take longer, and I will not spend more time as a "pleaser" at my expense than "normal". When I'm dating a provider on the outside and in a real-life relationship, and not paying, as I often do from time to time, I will be more egalitarian because there is no clock to watch, AND I AM NOT PAYING. Your speculation that I'm not willing to please a woman is wrong, but if you are saying I'm not willing to devote an entire session, for which I'm paying, then you are absolutely right. Your point is vague, so its hard to guess which side of that question you come down on, and that was my MAIN POINT is asking the OP for clarification. You speculating on his behalf is next to worthless in that regard. No offense intended, just stating a fact.
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I speculated, based on your confusion about the OP, that you’re not a “pleaser” personality type. There’s a big difference between someone who’s WILLING to please another person and someone who gets a lot of pleasure from pleasing another person. One way to tell the difference is, a “pleaser” personality type would have no problem taking considerable time of a paid session (but unlikely the entire session, which neither I nor the OP said nor implied) pleasing the person he or she is paying, whereas someone who isn’t a Pleaser would find that odd, maybe even confusing.
absence of that, you think more speculation is helpful? You agreed that the "OP neither said nor implied", but it is equally possible that the opposite it true, since he neither said nor implied that he DOESN'T spend the whole session pleasing her, and therein lies the ambiguity that ONLY the OP can clarify. I know you are trying to be helpful, but you have no firsthand knowledge of what the OP meant in regards to my questions.
it’s ok for YOU to speculate here, but not others:
“In your case, you are the one investing in all of this equipment, which seems from your post to be solely for THEIR pleasure, unless you are also using them on yourself as a masturbation aid.”
You speculated, based only on the OP, that there’s only two possible motives for the OP to invest in the sex toys: solely for the woman’s pleasure, or to use on himself.
I merely offered another possible motive, one that it seemed to me you didn’t know about or hadn’t considered.
Yes, I was trying to be helpful.
clarification. YOU are the one speculating on what answers HE might or might not give, while I was leaving it open for HIM to respond directly, not through YOU interpretation of what you THINK he meant. THAT'S speculation, my friend. I think our exchange is pretty clear about that. Nice try to flip it, though. This is one of those instances where you just take the "L" and move on. I have had those, too. Lol
But the humor of your position aside... fortunately, I and others here know how to read. 😏
Others that know how to read are waiting like I am for the OP to give his OWN response. It may be the same as yours, or it may be different. We don't know yet. You're the only one trying to speak FOR him. What does that tell you?
His response won’t be the same as mine, because you asked the OP the following two questions:
1. “Are these ladies paying you for the services you are providing, or are you paying THEM for the opportunity to give them pleasure?”
2. “At some point, is she providing any kind of services to YOU?”
I didn’t ask those questions and, frankly, I have no interest in the answers to those questions. It’s none of my business how this fellow spends his money and whether he’s paid by someone else for giving them pleasure, or he’s paying them. In my mind, that’s between two consenting adults, neither of which is me.
I wasn’t speaking for the OP at all. I offered a possible explanation for the behavior that you said confused you, different from the two possibilities you gave. The OP might tell us whether he thinks he has a “pleaser” type of personality, and that would be interesting to know. But it wouldn’t change my original post that such a personality type exists.
into this and now want to point out that some things are "none of your business." Interesting . . . . but duplicitous.
At least you are now conceding that we won't know much until the OP responds to my post. If you would have admitted that earlier we could have saved some bandwidth here. Lol
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is your gift for making non sequiturs. 😂
gift and a curse . . . . if it were true. Nice out. Lol
But the Eroscillator 2 with the 'Soft Finger' attachment is amazing.
Edit: if I had to pick something similar to but imo better than the Womanizer it'd be the LELO Sona 2 Cruise.
I find myself reaching for my Magic Wand Rechargeable or my Lelo GIGI 2 or my Doxy Die Cast 3R the most.
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I have The Personal Touch...Wanna Watch
...a different fave vibrator for each one. I have had several providers use a Hitachi on me and it was good, but all I truly need is a $10 pocket rocket and I'm in heaven....assuming that it is wo-manned by the right person of course!
For actually answering my original question. 