I was chatting with a girl yesterday after another nice visit, she's mentioned an exit plan a few times but doesn't really know what it might entail because she makes good money... not sure what she wants to do but she indicates that she doesn't want' to do this forever... so my question to providers, does it become a trap for you because it's not like someone is going to walk in off the street and make a couple hundred K a year, at a "regular" job... the next thing you know it's been 10 years and now what?
I had another provider drop the same thing on me, she said this is the year i "try" to get out... then said, i guess i'm supposed to say this "IS" the year i get out... do you feel "stuck" for lack of a better word, sometimes?

But like that old song..,"You can check out any time you like,
But you can never leave!'"

One item that comes up is how to account for a big time gap in a resume with no (easily) verifiable activity.  There are many possible explanations in the real world: Caring for a sick family member or family elder care. Married / homemaker, then got divorced.  Need a credible back story to explain the gap.

it seems to me that the challenge is walking away from the money... despite the desire to get out... one get's comfortable in a lifestyle and can't find an alternative income to match. i had one provider tell me her dream was to have that "pretty woman" scenario...  
monetize your body all day long but buy a house... pay off debt... one girl i know has paid off 60k of 90k in student loans in like a year...

They need to save/invest.  That's the universal exit plan.

I've know strippers, massage girls and escorts that have walked away in their late 20s. They were smart, saved a nice nest egg for transition and emergency, and found relative happiness in the mainstream world (sans Mercedes).  

 
Lots of others talk about buying real estate or investing, but most 20-somethings don't seem to have the discipline to save or the wherewithal to invest for these exit strategies.  The ones in their 30s that discuss it have side hustles, "Daddies" or real careers, but can't seem to cut ties with their provider life. Hope I'm not stereotyping too much. Just my observations.

Just like a gambler who is up big . . . gotta know how to handle it and when to walk away.

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retired at 70, after seeing a combined 300,000+ customers.  I'm surprised they can still walk  Lol

I think that works out to five per day, each.

mean this as an insult, truly.  But, here goes; finding an escort who is a good business person and has the ability to manage their finances is rare.  Almost as rare as finding a purple unicorn.

 
Have seen more providers than I can count, let mass amounts of money slip through their hands.  Then during the slow periods (and no matter how amazing a provider may be, slow periods WILL come), they have a very difficult time.

 
Yes, there are a few, who are intelligent, with the self discipline to do something constructive with their finances, but again, this is less common than we would hope.

as "universal" among hookers as some might think.  In my experience, money management among working girls depends on the mindset they had when they entered.   There is big different between providers that are goal-driven, and those that just decide one day to try sex work for "awhile."

 
I have know a large number of women who have  worked themselves  through college doing sex work.  They can make enough to live on seeing one customer a day and have more time to spend on their studies.  I was a regular with a UCLA girl for awhile.  When she was about two months from graduation, she announced on her website that she was not taking new clients and would see her existing clients for two more months.  Two weeks out, she thanked all of her customers, said she was graduating and had arranged a civvie job in London, and gave us all two weeks to book our last session with her.  I thought it was a very classy exit from the biz.  

 
I also knew one that bought and paid off a Westside condo in four years doing sex work, then went back to her civvie career.  She paid $450,000 and now its worth almost double.  Beautiful place.  She told me she realized at a young age that she would never be able to afford to own LA real estate on what she makes, but by taking "rent" out of the equation with this purchase, her only "housing" expenses are utilities, HOA, and property taxes, which she can afford on her regular job.  

 
I posted the story of the girl that opened a pilates/yoga studio with a few years in sex work on Bond007's recent thread on friendships  

Women that have a goal, and then achieve it, are not usually approaching sex work as a life-long career, and because they are in and out of the biz relatively quickly, a lot of mongers never learn about their success stories.   Some providers here have already shared their own success stories on this board, but they are still pursuing their goals, so they are still in he business.  Most of the goal-driven girls are EXCELLENT money-managers in my own experience.

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Generally speaking, I find girls who are "good business people" more often than not have their longer term finances in order, with a few indulgences mixed in to be sure, as we all do at times.  

 
It is the girls who are NOT good on the business side are the ones that I have found to have issues with saving, investing, allocating, preparing, etc.

 
Good business skills generally translate into good, longer term money management in my experiences. The reason is simple; since they have that sound business acumen to start, they are more likely to know where to get that info for their longer term financial success, seek it out, listen to it and have the drive and know how to implement it.

 

I knew one Provider who told me that she was saving up to open up her own salon / beauty parlor kind of shop. Unfortunately, she was involved in a minor but headline grabbing hit and run accident. They found her easily (license plate) and the investigation revealed other (TER) aspects of her life.  
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I met with another hostess who had just come back from a shopping spree on Boston's haute couture boutique street. She showed me a $600 snakeskin belt (around 3/8 inch x 28 inches) she had just bought. I tried to keep my comment neutral and non-judgemental ("Wow." could mean "nice belt" or it could mean "$600 for THAT?"). She, herself, had some sort of epiphany and said, "What did I do? I can't believe I just paid $600 for a belt. ..." She didn't come back to Boston after that but I saw by her ads that she changed from a beautiful "soft" young woman to a highly tattooed, huge boob job, bleached hair, edgy kind of Provider.  I had to wonder if  she was in it for the long haul, but she had no more ads and no more reviews after less than two years. I wonder if she still has the belt?
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I, on the other hand, squander my money on Providers. SMH!

AMP girls you frequent, make out better than I thought.  By the way how do they communicate with you since few of those you see, even know how to speak English?  Guess that makes sense, though as it puts you on equal footing with them.

THIS century.  Sure, when you first began hobbying, 60 years ago, that may have been the case.  But if you took a poll of those of us who can get it up without a penile implant and have been with ladies this century, you may be surprised at what that data would reflect.

 
But nice try.  Know you are always interested in keeping the conversation going.  You'll do better next time.

And I'm sure you're a lot of fun at parties with your negative attitude "Gut-n-Glory".  

Oh, wait, I'm sure you're so bitter because you DON'T get invited to parties. You might want to think about why you're alone and angry.

I'm sure we'll see you as an active shooter someday.

Enjoy playing Fortnite in your basement beating off to redtube at 3:00 a.m. you loser.

People change. I did not start out as very “business savvy” and I certainly did not have any real goals or long term plans in mind when I first entered this line of work. It was not until after a few traumatic events and getting older did I realize I really need to save and think about the future. Because more than likely I am not going to want to do this forever, not that I plan on leaving anytime soon, but I grew up and got tired of being broke because I was living day to day spending the money as quickly as I got it. Thank God I started to think about the future when I did because while I am not rich or close to retirement I am in a pretty good spot right now. This would not have been possible if I did not start really re evaluating my life and setting goals for both this lifestyle and my personal life. I know too many ladies who make/have made a lot of money, blow/blew through it and are living literally client to client. That is no way to live.

who has ridiculed any provider here... you quoted "trapped"... that was an impression I got from a woman who specifically said this is the year she "tries" to get out... the challenge is the reduction in income, she isn't prepared to accept that cut so she's kind of stuck... that's not ridiculing her or anyone else, it's a observation.

you own ignorance about the market segment that a third to a half of the guys here patronize.  First, there is a difference between an AMP, which is usually a store front massage parlor staffed with not-so-attractive Asian women (many are older) who give massages with a happy ending HJ, and  Full Service Kgirl providers who work in apartments within large complexes where neighbors are not too nosey.  These are commonly referred to as AAMP's.

 
As far as English speaking, in the early days of the Kgirl boom, 10-15 years ago, lack of English skills was a common problem.  However Kgirls wanting to come here and work quickly learned that good English is invaluable in creating regulars, repeats, and generating tips.  It has been several years since I have seen a Kgirl that did not have decent English skills.   With that said, the better their English skills when they come here, the more likely they will find a place to work along the California coast, which is the holy grail for Kgirls.  So your assertion that "few of them speak Englsih" is a complete lie, and a blemish on any credibility you have on this topic.  I have dated about 150 of them on the outside over the last ten years and only had about 5-6 that needed help ordering at an upscale restaurant.  

 
You are not much different than your mentor, BPos.  You come on here with a Kgirl comment, and think you know something about how that market works because you read some posts somewhere, and because you don't really know shit, you just end up making a complete fool of yourself.  However, better to be a complete fool than an incomplete one.  

When I first started doing SW full time I felt some pressure to work as much as possible as I felt I had an exp date. Turning 40 this month, still going strong.  

I think it still comes down to the stigma of the job. SW is supposed to be a part time thing until we get a "real" job.  

I have a bachelor's degree. I have had lots of "real" jobs. None compare to the $$ or flexibility of SW.

that every provider needed to have set goals when they first enter the business.  I was just saying that those that do are focused and hit the ground running.  There is nothing wrong with deciding on what goals you need to focus on after a few years in the business, but as you admit, once you started concentrating on certain things, like saving money for the future, you had a sense of purpose from that point on and you are now in a good place, and not floundering around aimlessly.  Some times it just takes some kind of epiphany where you suddenly see the light and know how to get the most out of your future activities to prepare you for where you want to be 5. 10, or 15 years from now.  You are a success story in your own right, you have haven't arrived at the "end" yet.  

Your WEAKEST personal attack yet on one of the board veterans here.   Whether you are self-aware enough to know it, or not, this might be your MOST embarrassing moment.  Even if you want to make a lame claim that you were making a joke, we are laughing AT you and not WITH you.