That we are paying for your time.
That's such a bullshit cop-out statement.
I am paying you for SEX, for you to suck me and fuck me. Why can't we all just say it as opposed to making stupid statements like paying for time?

If you take money and then fuck a guy  you are a prostitute,

If you welcome reviews so other guys will offer you money for sex you are a prostitute.

No need to sugar coat things.


PS  There is nothing wrong with being a prostitute.

It is certainly more legal to think of it that way. Those of us who are oocasionally called upon to pass a polygraph find that the attitude of "only paying for time" helps us fool the testers. So for us thinking of it as "paying for sex" would be pretty damn stupid: loss of job, etc.

One person's stupidity is another person's street smarts.

For some stupid-ass reason it 'sounds' better. Like everyone doing this is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of LE or anyone that they know personally that might catch them.

Personally, I'd say roughly 80% of the people in my life know I give money to women for sex. The other 20% either have suspicions, or are just too fucking dumb.

You'd think that anybody that didn't walk around with a helmet on cuz if they fell would hurt what's left of the shit between their ears would see a hooker's site and read 'Compensation is for my time only' and say 'Yeah! Fuckin' right!' Especially when they have hourly rates inbetween their 'pix' and 'etiquette' prompts.

I find it amusing and play along, lol!

had language like "$150 per pop" it would make it easy to take it down.

It is stupid to make it easy for the folks who are hobby hostile.

every client-provider relationship is not a sexual one (gasp!), and there are also a great many client-provider relationships in which sex plays a rather miniscule role. time and companionship with the right woman is exactly what those men desire, and something for which they gladly pay.

What idiotic police department would waste time and tax payer dollars on a polygraph for a hobbyist.

My favorite stupid saying on TER and other boards:  Providers that call themselves "Non-Pro" haha.

Read her profile and reviews, clearly stating these guys gave her 'x' amount of money for 'x' amount of time and in the process she sucked his dick, he came in her mouth, he licked her pussy, then they went from mish, to doggy, to CG, RCG, and back again till he came again.

But stating 'I'm paid for my time and companionship only' hides the fact.

You're a fucking idiot. No wonder you posted under an alias.

Obviously not every encounter has sex but think of it this way.

Let's say John sees an ad for a Mary  who offers her services for $350 and hour and he contacts her.

John submits to whatever screening requirements Mary has and they meet at a hotel room.

If John wants to have sex they will have sex 100% of the time.  

The fact that John may not want to have sex doesn't change the fact that Mary is a prostitute and John is paying her for sex.  He may not use the sexual services she offered but he paid for them regardless.

No need to sugarcoat things.


PS  IMO there is nothing wrong with sex for money transactions

Why the fuck would anyone spend hundreds of dollars an hour to talk with a woman when they can get their lame ass down to the corner bar and for $20 get the same thing?

And in all actuality, all any lonesome fuck that can't get it up can get on here for $250 a year and talk till his heart's content. Doesn't take a fucking rocket scientist.

Guess I'm alone in my principles. I just don't see giving you whatever you charge for an hour just to talk.

I have many friends here I can talk with for free, both women and men. Well, if you take away the cost of internet access and VIP of course, lol!

Obviously you haven't drunk enough to read my post with ANY comprehension.  You're the fucking idiot this time. LOL!

"Hiding the fact" makes it a little harder. Anyone who doesn't want to make it a little harder for the bad guys is self destructively stupid and is not qualified to give advice.

Do you need an email?

If he is clear in his mind that his intention is to pay for time and sex does not happen 100% of the time and he is happy with that then he isn't paying for sex.

The only point on which we agree is that IMO there is nothing wrog with paying for sex. The problem is that it is illegal and many others think it is wrong.

What you don't understand is that some of us prefer to not make it easier than absolutely necessary for the hostiles.

First of all there actually are s lot of nen out there who actually pay for companionship and no sex. Everything from just having someone to talk to , or hang out with, to things like massages. There was just a post on this on the newbie board a couple days ago.
But even besides that, the fact that we all know what goes on and most everyone here believes there is nothing wrong with paying for sex, that is obviously not true for the general population. So what is wrong with sugar coating it. If TER changed their "these are all fictional stories" line to "these are all true stories" and every escort changed their ads snd websites to say. "I am a prostitute. I will fuck you for $400. You can also ear my pussy and I will suck your dick too. You can cum ad many times ad you like on one hour." Truth in advertising, maybe, but how long do you think those websites would stay up? There is enough trouble with the do gooders out there branding us. Until it becomes legal (yeah right) snd until there is no stigma attached (also yeah right, and btw, stigma has nothing to do with legality.) let us live in our fantasy world. I haveno problem reading fantasy reviews and paying women fir time and companionship. And whatever goes on between us behind clised doors is a personal matter between consenting adults.

Yeah, send me an email if you know my address.

The fact of the matter is, a fucking teenager can come across this, get mom or dad's credit card number if they don't have their own, become VIP, and read WTF ever they wanna read. Make up alias', post reviews and posts under them, and generally wreak havoc.

I'm just one of those people that don't give a fuck cuz most people in my civvie life know what I do. It's fools like you that have something to hide that should be worried.

Better bring a bottle of some fine-ass scotch or whiskey and hope I don't tell you 'I toldya so' to the point where you get an even better idea of trying to thump my ass cuz you'll lose twice...

The hobby should be about having fun as the INDIVIDUAL sees fit. Beyond this particular issue, why some folks feel that everyone who hobbies in a way that is different from them has to be stupid...... well I don't want to understand that narrow mindedness.

Vive la différence!

Fat fingers on a tiny keyboard. I would edit it, but then it will disappear for a few hours, and there is already a reply to it, so I will leave it.
I assume the post is still understandable. If I ever figured out how to post pics, I would ad a pic like scoed would to make up for the typos. Maybe scoed can help me out here.

That's for sure. Look in your email for an addy that starts "ttre....". Last one I got from you was mid Dec. That ought to be enough to refresh your memory.

No email for you. You're being obtuse. I'm done.

Prostititues aint hookers and clients aint johns ROFLMFAO!!!!!

but i do understand your argument, however. imo, sex for money would equate to any other product or service we pay for. in other words, the product/service is offered up to the potential consumer, and consumer forks over cash for said product/service. when you go to your local newsstand with necessary cash in hand asking for a paper, the proprietor will hand over the paper, no questions asked, no other criteria necessary. it was for sale, you bought it, the end. the same can be said of the woman cruising up and down "the strip," presenting her wares to potential johns. she is selling sex. so, btw, is the woman who presents herself on a gorgeous professional website, or perhaps only through word-of-mouth spread by fabulous reputation, who will cater to any man so long as he meets the basic requirements of being 1. safe; 2. able to meet her financial demands, whether that is $300 or $10,000.

but all escorts/service providers do not fall within those parameters. some never "offer" any sexual services. and some, like myself, offer them gladly if that is what desired, but with no "fee." as an example, i have had a longtime friend and client with whom i refused to accept any green pieces of paper for any time spent together where sex took place, but did accept them for any other scheduled time spent. call me crazy (and many have, lol), but that just feels more natural to me. if i were into selling sex, then it would have to be with strangers (none of this length getting-to-know and understand and empathize with you stuff), it would have to be for no more than $10-$20 a pop so i could feel good and dirty, i'd have to have spread-eagled nude photos posted on www.whoreforu.com or something, or perhaps hang out in adult video stores late at night wearing the tiniest of skirts with no panties and looking ultra-vulnerable, and....well, let's not get into my fantasy life here..*fans self* mmm..

anywho, you must also keep in mind that "Mary" always has the right and prerogative to refuse "John" sex, no matter what he has paid for.

p.s. i too see nothing inherently wrong with sex for money.

Just say WTF under your usual shit, fuck!

Chalk it up to my time of the month. LOL!

Only when we are dead and dust are we all the same and obey the rule of averages.

It is real simple. Find an photo like the one below from Met-Art.com on the web. Then right click on the photo. Click "Copy image URL". Go to your post you plan on posting and there is a box titled picture URL. Remove the annoying http:// they put up for you. In the box right click and click "Paste". Make sure the URL  has a gif, jpg, or bmp at the end some that it is a valid photo link and that it starts with a http:// and you should be good to go. Go ahead and post when you are ready and the photo should come up.

Photo of Mia Sollis from Met-Art.com

If you ever get arrested, you better keep your mouth shut. Seriously, I can already see how much trouble you would get yourself in.

Just watch COPS sometimes if you doubt that.

Guys get so panicky when LE grills them that they think they are helping themselves by blabbing out everything.

They are only making LE's job easier and sealing their fate.

go around announcing to the world that they are having sex for money or paying for sex. Last I heard, that was illegal and can get you arrested whether you are a "prostitute" or a "john".  Paying an escort for her "time" is a much smarter thing to say.

It's when their pants fall down I draw the line.

Just say no to crack.

Not really.  The smartest thing to say is nothing at all.  Once they've decided to arrest you it doesn't matter what you say and you can only compound the damage by talking.

Some ladies do not offer sex, only time, though they often imply sex is available. Here we often refer to them as rip-offs.

In a non arrest situation the cost of saying nothing can be too high.

Failure to answer a question convincingly in a non arrest scenario can lead to very costly problems. Saying nothing at all can be a costly option when it is not an arrest situation.

There is the employment scenario, what about the SO scenario? If you're silent, giult might be assumed in either case.

I agree, if arrested STFU is always best. In other cases, one needs to make a choice among alternatives depending on the details.

My response was specifically re an LE bust because that's what the poster above me was talking about.

No, we're pretty much the same as we live and breathe.

We (the people on this board) are the same in that we engage in commercial sex transactions.

Some like to deny and obscure that fact.

Lilli,

How often are you 'not in the mood' for sex when you meet a new customer?

I would wager never  because if that was the case you would be tagged as a ripoff.

Its wrong to speak to a cop.  If arrested STFU and certainly don't say something moronic like "I was only paying for her time".

we are not all the same duh!  Most say frankly, (the high roller's) that they are paying for them to leave lol)

i am not for sale, and my sex is not for sale. i charge my clients and friends for a boundary, nothing more, and in areas where i feel that boundary is not necessary, there are no "rates." i offer my time, attention, intuitiveness, empathy, advice....an open and judgmental ear and free environment. those are the needs of those i choose to see. i do not offer sex, as no man explicitly requires "me" to meet that need. rather, my body is free to use at will to any men in my life who need it at that moment. and yes i said any, in or out of the hobby. if a man desires me solely for sex, he need not utilize my services as a provider for that, he can keep his wallet at home. He can simply contact my Husband, or approach us at the local nightclub, and if he is reasonably sane and decent he can have it (well, borrow anyway ).

in short, i provide therapy. if sex is all a man seeks, and he happens to desire me for that purpose, he can easily acquire that via other means.

Is how both sides take fewest risks.

But I think you are also pretty unique.  I can imagine you would be fascinating to meet.

I honestly don't know anyone like you. I would also love to meet your husband. You fascinate me in a good way.

That if they aren't the most stupid should get a nom as most tired and hackneyed:

"After I gave her 7 (or more!) "O" she said "It's your turn!"

After being asked to fuck her whether anally, orally or vaginally..."And who am I to argue?"

All the snappy euphemisms incorporated in reviews by those who think they'really putting out some witty repartee'

you might want to be a little less snide about those who review until you've posted some reviews yourself or established some credibility in other ways.  I welcome all new posters and don't really intend to flame you, but this is so obvious that someone was bound to say it...and probably less gently.  Most people are poor writers and often are uncomfortable posting reviews, but TER's value is based on people writing them.

Yeah, fair enough, I should have considered that, but I have read a great number and after I while some of them make me want to cringe. I understand being uncomfortable and not being great writers but then don't go forward as though you are. I won't call the person out, of course, but I read one by a frequent poster that was basically a string of snappy euphemisms strung together. To anybody thinking of using the "Who am I to argue?" line. Please don't.

while there are some reviews that make me cringe because of all the cliches (the worst, to me, being "treat her right, guys") I will only criticize the ones that are so poorly written they can't even be understood.  Cliches are cliches for a reason: they actually describe something everyone can connect with.  I would simply encourage you to contribute some reviews here.  You write fairly well, so be my guest.
PS: I have also frequently criticised posters here for poor use of language under my aliases, ConanTheGrammarian and TheCunningLinguist.  Most people who post here for a while know it's me.

I am perfectly content to be a consenting adult, whatever, and avoid having a description of the specifics in black and white for LE to use against me, God forbid the occasion should ever arise.

Oh yeah, the "Treat her right" is one I missed. I understand if someone doesn't have the confidence or ability to write well, that I have no issue with. The ones that get me are the ones who really can't write but think they can and seem to think that using snappy euphemisms (one that comes to mind is "snapper") ad nauseum makes for witty repartee'. I wouldn't expect anyone to be limited to clinical terms but too much is too much, for me anyway.

As for me writing reviews, I would if I had anything to review. I still have some trepidation about all this and don't know what I think about jumping in yet. When/If I do I will write reviews unless asked not to. Yeah, I still don't like alias.

Not so much on TER but on another site where I post and review.  They think they're poets and write terribly over-written tripe.  I just bite my tongue and don't flame then.  They mean well but, in the end, contribute nothing.  I encourage you to write some reviews and look forward to your first.  I'll be the first to give you props when you do. Sure, there are risks.  But reviews are what make this whole game work.

Because the laws of our assbackwards country doesnt allow us to get money for sex.  We can get it for every other other thing, our looks, our brawn, our intellect, our athletic ability but we cant get it for sharin some lovin with our fellow man.  Why ? Because for some reason the idea that people only have sex to procreate or if they are in love is still the standards laws must be written on. Why do we have clits, for gawd sake, if not for pleasure.  Anyways, legally its another feather in the case against you if you contracted sex or a sex act for money. Its a safety expression. And it probably doesnt matter in the long run, they would lie and/or arrested you regardless.And it allows rip offs to maybe think they arent actually doing anything wrong.  I always try to talk about what I like in a general way.  Not in answer to a certain question. Anyways, didnt you know...we are escorts...we escort you from the door to our beds. LOL.

Yes what is wrong is you are admitting to a crime. Like someone said, why make it easierhe.  By saying you are paying for the time then they gotta work a little harder to bust you and make it stick.  But to my thinking if you are paying for the time you should get all of that time paid for. Not like some gals who run out the minute your "not contracted or bought" sex act is concluded.  Now thats just not right.