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Perhaps the costs for a provider's time in those countries are lower than the US
I don't know as I have never traveled to any of those countries.
Many of us providers structure the discount into the rate for longer appts.

tpsmyth022447 reads

Here is a question. Why do providers in the US seem to give far more minimal discounts for longer dates than in Europe? I have noticed providers in the US that might charge $5000 for an overnight date but in Germany or Switzerland a similar provider might charge only 1500 to 2000 Euros.

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Perhaps the costs for a provider's time in those countries are lower than the US
I don't know as I have never traveled to any of those countries.
Many of us providers structure the discount into the rate for longer appts.

In US the trade is illegal. So the true economic forces of supply and demand are not exploited.

 
If it is legalized, one of the best ways to reduce the costs, it would increase supply, as providers would be able to work without fear of being arrested. Big money will flood the market. You can get a lap dance for $25.00. you can probably get sex for $200-300 with  really really hot young woman..

-- Modified on 10/23/2021 10:51:43 AM

I have always wondered this too.  Just seeing how much time and effort a lot of these lovely ladies take to get ready, that’s a fixed sunk cost applied to every meeting.  So from a financial perspective, it would make sense to have a first hour fee (say $500) and then a reduced fee for the second hour (say $400, in this example), and then their average marginal price for every hour after that (like $275).  So then a 5 hour total rate would be $1725.  But maybe I’m being a financial geek and missing something about the business side of things.  Of course I’m not seeing it from their perspective, so I could be way off base here.

I think it's reasonably safe to think the ladies on both side of a pond are trying to maximize the net incomes. As such they would be setting rate schedules according to that goal. That suggests to me that some differences in the preferences or likelihood of a session between the USA and Europe might exist.

 
Hypothetical illustration. If demand elasticity for the over nights sessions in Europe is such that setting the rate at 1500 get the girl 5 overnights a week (and that is hitting the net income target she has) and the variance of daily short sessions is high her income is now both more predictable and on target.  

 
In the USA lets say the variance of the short sessions is much smaller and the quantity demanded for over nights is both low and inelastic what happens? The USA provider following the Euro price model will likely see an insufficient increase in over nights to support to reduced pricing because she is only getting 5 more over nights a year. So her income is both reduces and the variance actually increases a bit.

 
Is that really why? Hell if I know but having different market condition in terms or demand preferences would certainly be consistent with the observation.

tpsmyth02121 reads

To follow-up most of the agencies in Europe(and there are far more agencies in Europe than the US due to the legal situation) specifically claim that the providers they work with prefer longer dates instead of shorter ones and hence they charge accordingly. The existence of a lot more agencies doesn't mean there are not many independent providers in Europe either as there are many Indy's too but again the Indy's seem to charge similar to that of agency providers in Europe

Below is roughly what I have noticed to be a comparable rate schedule for a typical Indy provider in Europe and one in the US.

Europe:

2 Hours 900 EUR
3 Hours 1100 EUR
4 Hours 1300 EUR
6 Hours 1700 EUR
12 Hours 2100 EUR

US:

2 Hours 1250 USD
3 Hours 1850 USD
4 Hours 2250 USD
12 Hours 6000 USD

Yes there is a price difference for a two hour date between the EU and the US but there is a HUGE price difference for a 12 hour date. For a lot of perspective clients in the US they could literally fly to Germany or Switzerland for the weekend for an overnight date and still come out of ahead vs staying closer to home in the US. Again I am not judging any providers pricing preferences I am just genuinely curious as to why this might be the case.

compare something, at least compare apples to apples. Or in this case, dollars to dollars.  

Europe:

2 Hours 900 EUR       (1049 USD)
3 Hours 1100 EUR     (1282 USD)
4 Hours 1300 EUR     (1515 USD)
6 Hours 1700 EUR     (1980 USD)
12 Hours 2100 EUR   (2446 USD)

US:

2 Hours 1250 USD
3 Hours 1850 USD
4 Hours 2250 USD
12 Hours 6000 USD

tpsmyth02121 reads

Yeah, I probably should have put the USD equivalents but they can vary as exchange rates fluctuate. Nonetheless there is still a bigger jump in the 4 to 12 hour average rate in the US compared to Europe.  

BTW, this is a whole nother story but rates in countries like France and Sweden where sex work is supposed to be illegal are mostly the same as those in the Switzerland's, Belgium's, and Germany where it IS legal. We could have an interesting discussion as to why that is.

I think the US providers get it right. You price the goods based on what you can get. That's just American capitalism. If this segment of the market was significant there would be providers targeting it.

Some of those rates are mere wishcasting and have nothing to do with actual bookings occuring.

I’ve met many (mostly UTR) providers who will stay overnight for about double their 2-3 hour rate. Sometimes even less.  
They like the time for conversation and getting close, and not having to keep an eye on the clock.

TheVoiceOfReason210 reads

Most of the overnight rates on ladies websites are for guys they have never met and they price in risk.  Whenever I have done overnights it has always been about half that rate.

The underlying question is are they going to make their money on the volume or are they going to Jack their price?  At that point, you should just make the money on the volume, because the client is staying in excess of two to three hours.   When you Jack the number up, you make the possible sample size smaller and you are still competing with each other for clients.  In this case just like any other always pay attention to the market because in the end, the customer is king.

My biggest takeaway from this thread is I wish Mya was based in Florida.

Maybe because when the Providers do give discounts.....The hobbyists ask for a larger discount (To the point where the provider can't support themselves on what she makes).

You can’t compare the market in Switzerland and Germany to the U.S.. That’s like comparing a Bentley to a busted-ass 1976 Ford pinto. North American indy providers are the worst value in the market. Nowhere else on the planet will you pay so much and receive so little. Take the money that you would spend on an overnight in the US and use it to purchase a business class ticket to Zurich. You’ll be able to to do your 1500EUR date, and have plenty left for a couple of days in their stellar FKKs. Probably have a much better time, too :)

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