Evening all,

New provider here (migrating from the sugar baby world to the hobby world has been surpsingly fun).

Anyways,  in my research and lurking on forums and provider websites and ad sites ive noticed that there are escorted levels. There are the backpage hoes (I realize its the only game in town in some locales) that fit my civvie Hooker stereotype. Then there seems to be (almost like a kinsey scale)  leveling up of quality. Some of these escorted sites ive seen actually do seem like legit courtesans. In that,  the women seem to act more like sugar babies...their rates are legitjmatelly for their time. Their clientele take the. On extended week vacations, regular overnighters and day excursions. They talk politics and travel, and the non sexual time is more important than the nitty gritty time. I haven't seen many of theses websites (I assume most women like this would be UTR) or women,  but the ones I have seen always have that "mature" tagline.

Is it possible to become one of these types of escorts without being 30+?
I often had this problem as a sugar baby. Being 19 (and looking at least 5 years younger on a good day), and sunable to drink (legally) seems like it makes it very difficult to become one of the more companion based escorts.
Ive lived in worked in more than 5 countries and speak 3 languages. I enjoy high tea at the Ritz like any classy girl,  but it seems like it would be very difficult to market oneself as an elite courtesan type if underage a certain age.

Am I totally off on my observations, or has anyone else come to this conclusion as well?

P.S. this is my first thread outside the newbie board. Lets play nice.

But isn't this all just sugar coated marketing? Isn't this just "classiness" on steroids?

Besides having perfect manners and knowledge on high arts, and.. the 4 digit/hr rate, what makes one "elite" escort anyways? To me it just looks like total marketing hype.

Low-volume yet always in demand, very selective with clients, actually enjoys escorting and meeting new people, financially-stable and does not always need to escort, regular clients from different cities, well-traveled, tours often, highly-educated, knowledgeable on many topics, not judgmental, open-minded, excellent reputation and reviews, in excellent shape, gorgeous, has a life outside of escorting, is more into the connection and chemistry rather than sex, etc, etc.

What is your definition/description of an elite provider?

Anything is possible.
One of the top 10 providers in the nation is only 22 and has been escorting for about two years, so she was about your age when she started.
It does take time to build a reputation and reach the "elite" level, however one may define that.

Interesting thoughts love.

"Classiness" on stereioids? No. Bad marketing? Yes.
When one claims to be this and that I immediately think opposite. Wouldn't you?
It's like the escorts that post they only see one guy a day. No one needs to know that.

XO,
KH

Terms like “elite”, “high-class”, “VIP”, etc get thrown around a lot and are highly subjective. There are no established standards, and meanings vary widely from provider to provider and hobbyist to hobbyist. The same goes for the term “courtesan”. Don’t be mistaken that a lady who labels herself a courtesan automatically does anything different than a “backpage hoe”. Nor does offering extended engagements mean that she doesn’t earn most of her living off one-hour appointments.

What you are observing is marketing, plain and simple. Providers and agencies try to portray themselves in as appealing a manner possible for the clientele they wish to attract, just like every other business. You will never see a website where the lady states “I’m always late, I leave early, I answer my phone during sessions, everything costs extra and I’m always bitchy”. That’s why you should be looking at reviews to learn who to emulate. There are many highly regarded ladies on TER to look to for examples.

Don’t worry about how to label yourself. Focus on providing quality service, delivering as promised, being on time, professional, responsive and above all, remember that this is a business you have to build, and a solid reputation is a stronger foundation than a label.

Your definition put into words my description before I could respond.

I did not know that about the 22 year old provider. Thank you for sharing. I have always been very self conscious about my age, as a young person.

So it is not impossible, though I am a ways away....

My site will say:
"Rose Hemwall
Classiness on Steroids"

I will get ALL the gents.

You have to be a 9.5 or 10 in looks

Be in high demand, yet be extremely selective  and somewhat exclusive with rates @ $500+

Have a dozen or more  10/10 reviews from KNOWN respected  hobbyists (not one hit wonders)

Service menu must be extensive & service scores of 9 or higher

Be able to carry oneself like a classy lady in public (dinners/ theater/parties) & not dress like a slut

Be educated, somewhat articulate, and be able to spell  C-A-T  without help from the screener

Be well traveled

It's not a real term that means anything.

You just need to understand why different guys see providers.  If your target market is the uber-high-end, uber-wealthy clientele, then you need to understand why they even bother seeing providers when clearly they have other alternatives.  Some of them want a plaything.  Others want a muse.  Others want to mentor someone while they are fucking them.  It all just depends, and there is no answer.  One thing to keep in mind is that they want you on the side, and they don't want you to get involved with fucking up the lives they have worked hard to build (or not so hard to inherit).

You need to ask yourself what kind of clientele you are looking for.  Are you looking to be able to charge four figures per hour?  Are you looking to be able to ask for five figures and only do overnight dates?  What is it that you are looking to accomplish.

Men get tired of a hot woman, because even sex with the hottest woman becomes pedestrian after a while.  And that's where conversation and personality come into play.  The reason so many high-end women are in their 30s is because they have the life experiences to play and converse on that level.  19-year-olds...not so much.  Sorry for the stereotype, but I have yet to find any 19-year-old that will be someone I can take around the world and to high-end black-tie social events (I'm in my early 40s).

I work in finance.  Can you talk about the capital markets?  Can you talk about geopolitical risk, and all of these boring, arcane topics that people my age like to talk about?  Just sayin'.

Doesn't mean we can't connect but if you think you are gonna get into my real-life world at 19...not gonna happen.

I definitely agree with most of your qualifications. Nice "list" type breakdown.

Let's check the "elite" list off:

1. I'm still new, so I can't say I'm in high demand. But I plan on being selective.
2. No reviews yet, but I don't think being not being a "10" in looks, should disqualify a lady. 10s seem to be very subjectivity around here. I've seen some ladies that seem to be very elite, but not what I would call a 10. But they are definitely someone's 10.
3. Well, since I'm a submissive (i.e. "fetish") provider, I'd say my menu becomes extensive based on that alone. So isn't that cheating a bit?
4. I was a sugar baby (read: arm candy taken to public events) before dipping my toe into the hobby world. Being classy in public is my strong point.
5. Very educated. Screener should either be "screen er" or "screene-er"
6. I grew up in 2 different countries and have lived in 5.

(( It seems like reputation is going to be the biggest obstacle. I will have to draw infinite patience from the universe...

Most of those things you require, I can do. (Not trying to be your courtesan, mind you).
I've done the wealthier, older man thing as a sugar baby. I was often taken back to China because I speak fluent Mandarin.

I can speak about geopolitical risk if you'd really like. it's a part of one of my majors.
Can you talk to me about classical Japanese literature?
I actually don't find those topics "arcane". It's what I generally talk about with my circle of friends, at least. I've gotten into many lives at my age. So, I suppose escorting at a high level isn't really that different than the sugar bowl at all...

Interesting.

You approach things with a freshness that is quite rare these days.

many different types of providers. What I think you are trying to say is that you want to be perceived as a well-educated "worldly" lady which you can do regardless of age. It is more about how you conduct yourself in person when you are with clients as well as the perception you give from your website and in various forms of communication whether it be posts on TER, emails with clients, etc.

You can be in your 20's in age but you can conduct yourself like you are in your 30's.

Good luck to you.

What city are you In or Country indeed.....www.the-gallery.co.uk do those jobs and it's fine if you are 19, they take on girls from all over the world as she has clients all over........they will have a new website up next month where it is even more focused on the date bookings

Then you will probably be very successful.

Point of my post was not to tell you the things you are NOT, because I don't know who you are.  I don't know you specifically, but I do know that most 19-year-olds really don't have that much to speak about certain things that benefactors/clients in their 40s and who are the movers/shakers are involved in.  Mind you, that's not me.  I'm a middle-class guy by Manhattan standards, so I would hardly be one of those guys that would be able to keep a courtesan around.

You will probably also find that you have a target market with certain white guys if you are Asian, as many white guys have the Asian fetish.  That's not a rip or a knock or a judgment...it's just something that I have seen here in Manhattan.  In fact, a female friend of mine and I were just talking about this at brunch yesterday.  I mentioned that you often see geeky successful Caucasian hedge-funders or attorneys with Asian girls, because they have that fetish.  Of course, it may also be that certain Asian women tend to be very well-educated and well-spoken.

My question is...what exactly are you looking for?  Are you looking for a specific client type?  To be able to charge a certain amount of money?  To be taken on vacations and trips instead of just seeing clients by the hour?

Curious, because it's not so clear in your post.

Check out 1 of London's last reviews, she wips out a 7 course spread after the session of the clock. The woman is educated at a high level, beautiful, willing to please,  and can still come on this board and publicly undress any jackass that talks crap. That my dear is elite. London has tons of reviews, a huge following, Internet arguably charge whatever she wants to, but still doesn't break the bank.

There are definitely a few girls out there like that. They see who they want when they want. But do remember even the guys that are willing to shell out for 4 12 or even 24 hours , won't do so unless they have seen you for a short time first, or at the very least see pages of reviews. Like any other career choice in life you have to start somewhere. We're at me, I would look to do 2 things. First, seek out a mentor... Someone who services are similar to what you want to do. There are a lot of people that are willing to talk to someone through their career choice. But most importantly... Get some reviews. Look at what other young gre spinners are getting in your area. Guys are not just going to throw down 5 or 6 bills an hour on a girl that has no reputation.

Just my .02

I would think your issue isn't going to be one of holding a conversation. Based on your post and replies you seem very well spoken and quite intelligent. I'm guessing your issue is going to be your looks. In your own words you are 19 but look 5 years younger. You may be just too young looking to be taken out into the world by most of the men your looking to see. Unless it is just a private getaway vacation to a place where I don't know anyone I would have a hard time taking someone so young looking to a black tie dinner or any social function where I would be around people I work with. I'm 37 and I would guess most of the men seeking Elite (however you define that) providers are mostly my age or older. Being mistaken for my daughter or getting carded at the bar would be an issue for me and would seem to make people want to ask who you were and how we got together. Just my thoughts on why Elite and mature seem to be one and the same.

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Now, whether she is everything she 'claims' to be, only the men who have been with her would know, and I certainly don't see any TER reviews, but her "image' of elite, will certainly attract those who buy into it.

Putting the word "classy" on a hooker website, is hilarious in and of itself though. The modern world is dying laughing at that notion I can promise you.

Be as much of yourself that you can be, without giving away your soul and you will be just fine. I never understood why people feel the need to be so hung up on labels and aspire to be the best hooker, but that's just me. I don't want to be known as the girl who is a clock watcher or shows up dirty and drunk for my dates, but I could not care less how high on the elite hooker ladder I can climb. This is not my life's ambition, so I guess I don't put that much thought into the stuff.

I have decent pictures on a website I paid someone else to create, and a 5 year history of consistent reviews that prove I delver what I say I will. That is enough for me.

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age does not matter..it is basic arithmetic..if you charge a 1000 or more an hour..you are definitely elite..