Girls and Guys what do you suggest in this situation.

A girl that you have seen only once and was relatively fun - calls and asks to borrow money.  She promises to pay back and possibly make it worth yout while.  She said she had money but was robbed by a client and needs money to pay bills.  I think that this is wrong to do this.  Please give your opinions.

I am relatively new at this, but I would GTF out of there and have no contact with her ever again.

If you had seen her numerous times, that might be a different story.

But if a lady asks you this after just one meeting. Its a BIG RED FLAG.

Let me put it this way. If you lend her money, I am 90% sure that you will not see it again. 9 out 10 cases that's what happens.

And if you have seen her only once, I am pretty darn sure that she is taking you for a ride.

Tell her to be more careful with her money. Getting a bank account and a debit card will prevent her from getting robbed in the future Believe it or not, a lot of the providers never deposit money in bank account  to avoid paying taxes. That's how some of them get robbed.  If the card gets stolen, one call to the bank can stop all the activity.  Its insane how poor some of these women manage their finances.

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You will never see her again! Her number will change overnight. If you do see her again it will be for her to work out the debt in a session and it won't be anything like the previouus time.
However a long time ATF friend maybe much different,but they usually are never in that position.

That way, she has already satisfied her end of the bargain. Don't give her money unless she has provided you a service. Like the other responses mentioned, you've only met her once, and your more than likely not going to see that money back again.

If you do decide to give her the money, then tell her she has to earn that money from you. That is, she has to physically satisfy your needs first, either spending a half day or night or what have you. Don't just give them the money and expecting they will pay you back. It doesn't work like this in this hobby.

Almost a year ago, I lent a very popular bodyrub girl $400.  She promised to pay me back in sessions and/or cash, but as of late she had stopped responding to my texts.

I asked her to respond, even if to say...I'm in a bad financial situation and can no longer afford to pay you back anytime soon.  That would at least be honest.

Nope...she is totaly radio silent now.

This is a high margin cash business that requires at least an once of intelligence with respect to money management. I have no patience for the addle headed irresponsible providers who blow through barrels of cash and then have the temerity to stick out their hand. They make us all look stupid.

Don't..unless you don't want to see that money again. Would you lend money to a person you met somewhere and chatted to for an hour? If the answer is no, you know what to do.

Structure the deal so that she posts more "collateral" than the loan is worth.

Say her rate is $500/hour.  And she wants to borrow $700 from you.  If that's the case, I would propose, "Give me a three-hour session with multiple pops, and I'll lend you $700."  Even if her three-hour rate is $1500 (doubtful), you are more than twice covered on your loan amount.  If she squirms, tell her that you have met her once, and there is a premium for liquidity right now. as cash is king.

She gets something on the back end, and you get something on the front end.

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Something about being ambushed by theives in a foriegn city.  They were robbed but not hurt...thank goodness.  My provider friend went on to say she was at the police station reporting the crime but needed a few hundred to make it thru the next few days...and gave an address to send the money by wire.

Was obvious to me her e-mail had been hacked because I knew her writing style was very different.
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If you were called, please identify the scammer so the rest of us can avoid.

I have lent money numerous times, and with the exception of maybe one person, have never been fully paid back. It's not worth your stress, you'll be thinking about it all the time. Tell her you are sorry for her predicament but you can't help her. Then you can sleep peacefully each night instead of wondering what's going on with her and when she's going to pay you back.

Until they PROVE differently, you should treat a provider as a complete stranger that you trust with nothing.  Not your name, your address, your employment, your family situation, your assets, nothing, nada, and under no circumstances.   If you relax your guard on this key point, it can blow up in your face and cause you an enormous amount of financial and emotional loss.

You should hold a hooker at arms length as an adversary,  because that is exactly what they are.  They are there for the money, not to build relationships.   You are dealing with someone whose prime motive is to part you from your cash.  

From that basic premise, there are a number of trajectories where the relationship with a hooker can go.  But until you have done business with her enough that you know what you are dealing with, you must not trust them.  The same way you would not trust anyone that you have done business once or just a few times.  

Your brain fights you on this.   When you have sex with someone, the part of your brain that controls emotional attachment lights up on a scanner.  So everything about your brain chemistry and neural responses is telling you this is a bonding experience.  But that is an illusion the large majority of the time.  If you ever think differently, just ask the hooker to see you OTC.  You will have your answer.

I wish the study that analyzed those neural firings had a hooker wired up to see what part of her brain is firing when she is with a client. It would be an interesting data point.

more often she suddenly becomes hard to reach.  In this case you've not only lost the money but also lost a good F***.  If you can afford to GIVE the money away, then consider it a gift.  But she'll prbably not see you again.
If I know a gal I like needs money, & I like her, I schedule an appointment.  I get what I came for and I leave her the usual gift.  Period.  It does help her out...  I've had some who I kept going this way.  And since she doesn't owe you anything you mingth keep her on your date list.
Being a sucker really sets a bad precedent.  

As a young man, I used to pick up co-ed hitchhikers who lived in the neighborhood.  I had a good paying job, was paying my bills but none of them would talk to be otherwise, let alone go out.  Once I dropped one off...  I felt bad, took her all the way home, which was out of my way.  She had a nice car in the driveway.  She didn't drive so she could save her money for partying.  Lesson learned.  I stopped picking up co-ed hitchhikers.

Why not just ask her for a 90 minute session  instead of trying to weasel more our of her for way less money...that about levels it for the both of them. Your way is tipping the scales way to far for him. And her asking him to just give her money tips it way too far for her.

I am hoping this is about being fair and equitable and not trying to scam either party.

or you could explain that this unsolicited , uhem , solicitation wasnt budgeted, therefore , funds are scarce just as a motel raises rates at a popular event.
Equity is  subjective. Keep your PHS

What on earth is going on??

She is going to milk you for all your worth, then drop you like a bad habit.
Don't do it!

It's a red flag even if you know the lady. I have a grand, still outstanding with one lady from a few years back (deposit on an appt she cancelled and never made good on) who I had been on weekends with and other long dates. Funny thing, even after that, she actually contacted me once, about paying her property tax bill. Needless to say, I didn't give her the money.

It's true what they say, familiarity breeds contempt.  I had given her deposits before, never had a problem, had known her for years in fact.  And believe me, I loved fucking her and being with her. That missing G didn't kill me, but never again.

MfSD>>>>

I know,  I mean I feel bad for her, but I really do not know her at all.  So how would it be my responsibility to help her with that.  I mean I feel bad that it happened.  You are right - if they are at a hotel near a bank they can always go deposit the cash at least 1 time a day or maybe more.  Some of the new machines let you stick cash in directly.

that is true.  the trade sounds like an idea, if I am up for it

did the co-eds do anything in return for the ride ?

I pretty much figured that is the case.  In the conversation she said she was partyying with her friends and a few guys.  She said at 1 point a white boy robbed her, and at a different point a black guy robbed her.  I figured she was either really drunk and didn't know what the guy was, or she is scamming.

She wanted a loan. That's different.  If she wanted the money and was willing to do a session for it, then I'm not sure why she didn't structure it that way.

and it was with a girl I had seen a number of times and felt comfortable with so I extended a little trust.  We agreed upon how it would actually be an advance and she completely fulfilled her end of the bargain.  That said, I can't imagine doing the same with someone I had just met, regardless of the circumstances.

......asking for $1000. Told her I would think about it, she also told me she would ask her other regulars. I never contacted her again! I've not seen any new ads of her, she has disappeared. I pity the poor suckers that fell into her trap.

Why does this question get asked so often?  Do providers do this a lot?  What would compel them to ask for money?  Do clients after ask providers for money?

And I don't know why she didn't but if he is willing to help he could possibly approach it that way where both get value for money...and no-one gets short changed.

Or he could just tell her no and leave it at that.

I guess when I was replying to this thread, I had it in my head that there was a sense of fairness. He could just say no or work something out that he is happy with as far as both get something out of the deal if he wanted to "help" her.


It's like a guy who solicits a discount...does the lady then say no, but how about the same session for double my price?  I guess this is subjective too.

I think she was conning you and I am glad you didn't fall for it.  Did you ever, at any time in your conversation with her, offer to exchange services for the loan? And if so, what was her reply?

nope - did not yet.  SHe wanted to call me back today.  I am thinking of not answering the phone.

She saw him once, and already she has her hand out.

And if she is asking for a loan, I interpret that as her saying that she isn't thinking about providing a session as her first choice.  She wants him to part with money on blind faith.

In my industry, a stupid bid gets an equally stupid counter.

With the discount...you are still getting paid for your session.  The request for a loan means he gets nothing other than her word that she will pay it back.

Not even CLOSE to the same thing.

I did ask the OP would he lend /give money to someone he had coffee with for an hour. Being that she has something he might be interested in, it does not seem a stretch that he might say sure, for an hour and a half session I will be glad to.

We can all agree this was a con. What better way to stop a con than to counter offer...with something they have to part with in order to make it work.

Possibly not in this case...lol I just thought the offer of a three hour multipop session for $700 was rude if her going hourly rate was $500.

On the other hand, she never would have taken it and most likely would not have paid the guy back so it I guess it's a moot point.

I think I might just try that just to see what kind of reaction I get. lol

and yes, providers do this a lot  more often than you would think, especially considering their rather high hourly wages. I have been asked for money dozens of times over the years, and I have loaned/given money to more than a couple in my time with mixed results, but never with money that I ever needed or expected to see again.

There are other ways too. You can just go to any supermarket and get the prepaid card and load it with cash that you have. No need to carry a thick wad of cash. Some of the girls do make 1K - 2K in a day depending on how busy they are and their going rate. I would never carry that kind of cash. All kinds of thugs out there..

It is not our responsibility to educate women on how to manage cash.

That deserve an equally stupid counteroffer.

Why in the hell would she do a 3 hour session for way under her going rate at the time she needed the "loan"??? It wouldn't be a "loan" at that point. It would just be payment for the session.

BTW, if you're going to loan someone money you just met then I suggest you consider it a gift because you're never going to see that money again.

In fact, you should give her twice as much as she asked for just to be a nice guy. What could possibly go wrong loaning someone you just met money???

I'd act like she was suggesting a session.   It she really needs the money, she book you.  A gal ought to be able to raise rent money in a few bookings.  It's still a week til the end of the month.

The guy is some guy she's been partying with...

of getting it back. Ever. In any way.
You'll be upset and its not worth the stress. I've lent money to numerous people and have only been paid back once, one year later, but my point is to never give anything you can't do without and never truly expect to be paid back.

Also friends and family are the absolute worst in most cases. A total stranger is more likely to pay you back!  

NO, barely a thanks!  Probably thought "Sucker" as she walked in the house.   I don't think they'd give the right time of day.  
But I'm a fast learner!

Try it and see what she says. It's just a question and you really don't have to forward..I think that if presented with a fair option, in that she has to give something to get something, she should be okay with it. If she isn't, well you get your proof that she wants something for nothing.

Or you could just not answer your phone and forget about it...

I guess I saw this as rude as in our line of work we get some pretty pathetic offers when we don't ask for anything. You are right though...in this case it was deserved.

don't expect to recieve. ( pay-back ) with sex or money. From someone who has been there, done that, MANY times. (me)
If your expecting repaid, DO NOT GIVE IT.

now Portia , If you asked to borrow money , Id loan it cuz youve already offered a gesture of trust & friendship , when my truck was in the shop . You invited me to crash @ ur incall condo . I shoulda took u up on it. But point is , You are one in a zillion. Wish you best of fortune. You deserve!

"Ill gladly pay you tuesday , for your ham sandwich today"