of submissive men who aren't really men if they aren't every woman's White Knight, or actually answer a woman who is in the Universal Bitch mode?
What happens is a vicious cycle, and you can see it every day in family court: Woman has some laundry list of crazy complaints, and the whole court is thinking, when is she just going to STFU? And guess what? The man is defaulted. He's not even there. He KNOWS there's no way he can make her happy anyway, and isn't going to waste effort trying.
IMHO, it's not a gender thing, it's a human thing. You get the highest probability of education if you use both carrot and stick, and don't get excited by the fact that some people will never learn.
PS: Use more carrot than stick. It's MUCH better for business.
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 7:17:27 AM
Do some of you guys think you're really that untouchable? Yes, I am upset. When I tell someone not to mention my Incall, do some people listen? Is your privacy that important and yet not our privacy? I'm sorry, but this is a wake-up call. For those of you who think our privacy is not as important as yours is, think again. LE is just waiting for us. They're not after you guys. Trust me. We're the people they want.
Also, the men who don't pay attention to our directions and decide to go it on their own and then wonder why they're late and get lost. Hello! I'm ex-military. Don't go to Mapquest, because I give the best directions to my place. I keep telling guys that Mapquest is incorrect for my area, so please just follow my directions. Do they listen? And then they're an hour late because they hit rush-hour traffic.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be an a_ _ hole, but this is getting ridiculous. I've had many providers email me to tell me to tel me that this is getting out of hand. Guys: Think before you speak and post. I'm so angry right now. Please use common sense, if there is such a thing among intelligent men. Do not use anything in a review that might endanger or hurt a provider. You don't need to mention what the Incall looks like or the subdivison, especially if you're asked not to give out that private information. We respect your privacy so you need to respect our privacy. Do you not think we are human beings with personal lives and work?
Please think with your big head and not with your little head. That always get you in trouble. If you're not sure about something before you post it, then ask the provider. Otherwise, leave it out.
Hugs,
Ciara
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 10:58:35 AM
I have had the same thing happen to me and I do not appreciate it . How would a gent feel if he had to pick up his things and tell the wife " we have to move, people know where we live" ?
Hell this is just a lack of RESPECT not ignorance.
No man in this hobby can be that careless .
I don't care what education background they hold ..no one should even mention where a lady lives or even the vacinity . Even if she is on tour NEVER tell Joe Blow where you screwed her brains out ..
Ciara you have the right to be very angry about this. I am sorry this happened to you ..
Layla South
-- Modified on 10/30/2007 6:46:47 PM
There are many ways to express your issues. Threatening those that have apparently (and probably inadvertently?) been a little to specific about your location is way over the top.
Opening your post with "Do you guys think you're really that untouchable?" is pretty damn chilling.
Lets examine your options:
1: Have the review removed or edited by staff
2: Email or PM the INDIVIDUAL(S) who were indiscreet and ask them to correct the review.
3: Post a THOUGHTFUL thread that calls this to the general hobbying populations attention.
I'm sure there are others. Clearly putting enough information in a review that may allow other to locate your in call location is stupid, thoughtless, and inappropriate. I am not defending that action. However I find the threatening wording of your post equally in appropriate.
I suggest that you calm down and avail yourself of the corrective measures provided by this servers staff.
-J
First, if this does not apply to you then don't be offended. Why the harshness? How would you feel if someone did this to you (or your family)? I guess some of you don't think of it. So . . . indirectly, if you answer with a negative response then this applies to you too. And . . . don't think that TER can remedy this situation quickly. The damage is already done, and it's not their fault. It's the hobbyist's fault.
How would you like it if someone posted your personal information? I'm not looking for an argument. The National Board doesn't see it that way either. I have been around a long time, sweetie. I am just tired of men not taking the time to think about the repercussions. Why don't you take your information to another source. No one's personal information should be disclosed. That's all. End of story.
Hugs,
Ciara
-- Modified on 10/30/2007 6:30:52 PM
First of all, you're involved in an illegal business, which comes with dangers and risks. You can't blame anybody else because only you can take responsibility for what has already happened. Everything happens for a reason and there is a certainly a lesson for you to learn from this experience.
She's in an illegal business and only she can take responsibility for what has already happened?? What planet are you from?
Ciara is venting, yes, but she also makes a valid point. I'm sure she is taking as many precautions as she can, but for a hobbyist to write anything that could point out her location is irresponsible.
You cannot blame her for this! That's utterly preposterous.
what she has to say. What part of d i s c r e t i o n don't you understand? Hobbyists and ladies alike need to use some common sense.
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 10:44:33 AM
are gonna wonder if they're going to be the next one you think is an "idiot", and if you're telling them to "figure it out yourself", then guys are really not that much different than gals, they don't like being around people who don't like them, and they go away.
Not good for the supply & demand issue.
You might want to try to be more clear, specific & narrow the complaint.
"Some guys" are gonna think, "whoa! I don't want to be around that when it goes off!" Again, not so good for the supply & demand.
Men who know me know I'm a great person. Men who don't can always find out. I'm not too worried about the marketing/money my dear. I have enough business to last a life time. Sometimes one just needs to vent, and coming from someone who rarely does it should have an impact -- that's good. That's what I wanted. Worry about your own marketing strategies. 
Hugs,
Ciara
You are absolutely correct that the guy was a dumbass. Should you be pissed about it...abso-f'in-lutely.
The harsh tone, in this thread and in past ones makes me wonder if I'd have more fun with someone else. I know that your life won't end because of it, and I harbor no ill will towards you. On one hand I applaud you for posting your thoughts using your own identity, but it's times like this that most all of us would understand the use of an alias.
It's funny how men can get upset if nothing much happens, but when a provider's safety and privacy have been invaded it's another story. Did you really need to respond to me that way? Was I directing this thread to you? No, why are you so defensive about it? If you don't want to see me, then that's fine. You'll be losing out on a wonderful lady, but actually now that I know what you're all about, I probably wouldn't want to me you. You're not the nice guy I thought you were, too.
Good luck, my dear.
Hugs,
Ciara
Ciara, I don't think my comments were rude in any way. I don't believe that I was defensive. I even commented that I agreed with you about the initial topic.
My only issue was that, since many use these boards to get to know each other, perhaps using an alias would have been a better option. You could vent, and not do damage to your image. It's great that you have a level of integrity that drives you to not use the alias feature, but I feel it may harm your business. Again, I don't pay your bills, so it's your choice as to how you market yourself. I meant no harm, nor insult. I'm sorry that you took it that way.
I didn't say your comments were rude. I pointed out that you didn't need to say anything about not wanting to see me because you'd have more fun with someone else. How would you know? You don't even know me? Every single client I've ever been with has thoroughly enjoyed his time with me and my reviews prove it. You're the one who said: "The harsh tone, in this thread and in past ones makes me wonder if I'd have more fun with someone else." Those are your statements. Why would you want to say something so mean? If you are not sure about something regarding my personality, then PM me with your feelings. Why make me out to be a bitch on this board? I don't see how saying, "makes me wonder if I'd have more fun with someone else" is a positive thing to say to someone. Don't try to twist this. That was mean of you. How many times have I vented in the past year and been brutally honest? Not many. I have always made a joke when responding to people. It's only the rude people a year ago or so that I've responded to. Now you're saying I've done so on other posts recently. Tell me when? Point out what you're talking about. I haven't even posted much on this board in awhile and the prior posts have been "ROFLMAO" or telling someone their funny. What in the world are you talking about? Or, perhaps you have forgotten that I've lost two of my family members within two months and I have recently gone through surgery. But no! You don't remember those things. You're lucky I didn't tell everyone to piss off the way I'm feeling right now. However, I am trying to maintain some level of sanity through all of this. Has your privacy and safety been compromised? Are you watching out for LE, safe men, sick family members, been through surgery yourself recently? Think before you assume.
Please do not contact me for an appointment if this is your true personality, because I know I pamper the heck out of my friends and my reviews show it.
Hugs,
ciara
If you cannot understand why I'm angry about this invasion of privacy, then you need to seek companionship elsewhere -- please!
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 4:06:37 PM
She has every right to be angry. I doubt you would be as calm if your home address, or even just a detailed description of your home were posted here. In fact, since this seems like no big deal to you, why not tell us where you live and where you work?
True it's chilling. I was shocked, but I know Ciara is a totally first-rate good person. If she opened with that statement, then the breach of her privacy was very flagrant.
Definitely clueless hobbiest, my concern is that TER didn't pick it up in approving the review-
Hell, I had a review denied for "lack of detail" recently when it was four times as long of some of these 250 word minimum ones-
They obviously read the reviews, why not disallow for rediculous location hints?
Sorry Ciara, you know only too well that hobbiests don't include 100% normal people- you'd hope though that the need for mutual trust given the employment info required for screening would give the occasional errant one a clue!
-- Modified on 10/30/2007 6:31:40 PM
(1) Your complaint is not crystal clear. Not 5 para order format. The result is that it's harder for people (especially the clueless ones) to understand & comply.
(2) It's something about privacy, and you're blasting it to the whole world?
(3) Pesonalizing, for example by calling JAOM clueless, turns attempts at help into a fight. JAOM is a damn bright guy, and you would benefit yourself by listening with your head, instead of reacting with whatever.
(4) OK, you were in the military. You should know then not to shit on the whole world, only the offenders. You should also know that you need to make it easy for the offenders to solve the problem.
(5) You should also know how to solve navigational problems from the other end. Fire off a smoke if you have to. Whatever you do, rant is the LEAST effective course of action. You cannot emotionally overwhelm the people you are trying to communicate with, or you fail to communicate.
Just saying. YMMV.
Even when I've brought it to their attention, they reject my comments and refuse to edit the sensitive info in a review. They're attitude is that if the provider isn't complaining then it's not a problem.
Not all providers read their reviews, so they don't know they are being exposed, but that shouldn't make their safety any less of a priority.
Sorry to interrupt, but why am I not surprised that this DUDE is going around like a little ninny, readin other people's reviews, and the running to the principal's office to "tell"?
What a weanie. lol
I saw you had another review. I'm not VIP now so I didn't read it.
Unbelievable. If it's not deliberate, I'd be surprised. Nobody could be that dense. I know you must have emphasized it, as it happened to you just recently.
It is really making a joke of the whole review system.
Hey sweetie, sorry you had some bad seeds including the wrong type of info. I think sometimes some people, include a little too much information when writing their reviews..I worked at a place before and the guys would explain in detail what the room and apt looked like, and thats very dangerous. Besides that type of info theres other stuff that shouldnt be said.
I understand that you are upset..who wouldnt be? Take care hon!
to put member pressure on TER? It seems to me that TER should know where it's bread is buttered.
Perhaps the solution is to talk to the reviewer and TER to modify any offending review.
I'm not blaming TER for this. I merely wanted to post this because too many guys are doing this lately.
Your privacy is important to you, isn't it? Well, I know I'm a logical and intelligent person, but this thread got some attention, didn't it? That's the point. No personal information should be given out. Yes, I am ranting, but it's okay to rant. This is a discussion board and I don't usually rant, so take it seriously. This is getting offtrack. All I wanted to do is send a message.
Hugs,
Ciara
Is it your most recent review in it's current form that has you so upset? Or has it already been edited?
-- Modified on 10/30/2007 8:15:06 PM
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 6:37:02 PM
not exactly 5 para order format you know.
and she kinda defeats the privacy issue by posting it on the www to God & everybody.
YMMV.
I did just what I wanted to do. It's too late for me already, so why not make a statement about keeping people's information private? And who are you anyway? Use your real name. I am very surprised at people who don't understand this dilemna, especially providers. And . . . I practice what I preach. Why would I give out any other information on a public board? You're looking for answers. Guess what? There is no analyzing this one, sweetie. The answer is already there: Don't give out private information. That' all!
If I were to give out all the information on this board, that would be exposing someone else's privacy (which would be hypocritical). I am a well-reviewed provider who has been around a long time, sweetie. If I'm ranting there's a darn good reason for it.
Worry about yourself and let people vent if they really need to.
Hugs,
Ciara
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 9:39:22 AM
....and you seemed to be on a roll....haven't seen anyone that angry (except me this weekend with my SO!) in a long time. No harm meant, I promise. I think JW got it right with the shotgun vs. hand granade thing.
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 11:40:03 AM
I don't think any of my prior (recent) posts have been hateful. In fact, they're usually responses to others in a funny tone. I think you mean responses to threads not posts. Actually, any responses lately come from this post and the responses. Still a little angry, and who wouldn't be? But whatever. Actually, JW apologized to me. I have every right to be angry about this. Granted, it is not my normal tone, but who wouldn't blast off when safety and privacy is invaded. You, all of people as a provider, should know this and understand why I'm upset. I know you meant to be funny. I'm not mad at you. It just sounded like a provider being patronizing and succumbing to the men on the board -- very disappointing. But no big deal now. Perhaps you don't realize that I've had two recent deaths in my family -- one of which I'm going to a funeral this weekend for, so if I seem a little mad at someone disclosing my private information, I would think you would understand.
Hugs,
Ciara
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 12:08:56 PM
What I don't understand, is that some of you respondees seem to think it's not a big deal. WOW!!! Where are your heads? Stuck in the sand or somewhere else more appropriate?
What happened to Ciara is the most serious breach of privacy possible in the hobby, and should not have been allowed to happen. Seems to me, TER is almost as much at fault as the dumbass who did it to her.
I have been reading Ciara's posts for a long time and everything I have read from, or about, her says she is a quality person and provider. Sorry this happened to you, sweet one.
my .02
Swim
Obviously, I don't understand why some folks think you shouldn't be upset either......
Swim
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 2:26:56 PM
I’m regularly flabbergasted at what the review approval process will allow through while being pedantically obsessed and distracted with the number of acronyms needed to pass muster.
I can imagine the volume of reviews that TER pours through daily is daunting; but frequently I feel their priorities for approval are seriously skewed.
I bet it is nerve racking to have a regular incall. I remember going to one and thinking how does this woman not worry every time the door bell rings?
Instead of making us ALL look like we are assholes, just simply tell us what you expect... let me see if I have it right?
Don't mention anything identifying about your incall on our reviews.
Use your directions as they are more likely to get you there than mapquest or guessing.
Did I get that right?
ok now I am ready for hugs...
good luck and I hope this never happens to you again.
Unfortunately, this has happened before. I specifically tell men when I see them. It's written very plain and in bold not to say anything (also) in my directions. I repeat it again before they leave. Men look at me like I'm nuts and say, "I would never say anything about your incall in a review." Then guess what? They do it. What more do I have to say to these guys? It's insanity.
It's easy guys: Just don't say anything about the Incall. Why would you anyway. To say someone's incall is decorated nicely is okay but you don't have to say anything else. Inquiring minds want to know (like LE and other jeolous providers).
Hugs,
Ciara
We are in post Ciara coma... It is scientific fact that one hour with you transfers 90 percent of our intelligence into our other head... and for some this lasts a few hours... some for days... and for some it never returns...
so you see my dear woman... it is ALL your fault.
ok again I am ready for those hugs.
lol
I'm afraid my intelligence will begin to drop down my body....
shit it seems to be already happening.
again sorry for the stress... I can't even begin to imagine what it is like to be you ladies.
I get the passion behind zapping those who might put you at risk by inappropriate disclosure of your private info. I really do!
But clearly you are so pissed at your latest incident that you include guys who have the audacity to use MapQuest in lieu of your directions in the same vitriol. A bit of a stretch IMO.
I don't mind if guys call if they're lost. However, I specifically tell them not to use Mapquest because it is wrong for my area. When someone is an hour late because they didn't follow my directions, it gets tiring. My place is easy to find if they follow my directions.
I tell them I give exact and easy directions to my place, so please use them. I also tell them other things in the email when I send it to them (with my directions). I was ranting, so I chose to include both things in the rant. If it's not you, then don't worry about it. What's the problem? Disappointed in you.
Hugs,
Ciara
It just seems like you threw a wide sweeping grenade when a precisely delivered rifle shot would have accomplished your point.
I did not interpret your message to be directed to me and that is not my point. I agree that the disclosure of private info is extremely disturbing and represents a dangerous threat to your safety and well-being. Direction impaired tardiness on the other hand is a major pain in the ass and surely a nuisance. But to link the two with a joining 'And this also includes' statement serves only to diminish your greater message and puts the focus on your anger and not your lesson.
Again that is just my opinion and I'm sorry if that is disappointing to you...
I have been burned too many times by them.
The mapping itself isn't too bad, but even then I find descrepancies from the reality on the ground.
If a provider gives you directions, use them. She knows where she lives after all.
self-delete
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 9:35:36 PM
a written record, a printout of her exact address and apartment number or house number. If it falls on the ground, or if a spouse finds it in the car or on the browsing history.. or if a cop arrests you and finds this on your person..
Adds a lot of risk to have this on your computer and in your car, IMHO. Just my .02
XoXo
Marea
Sigh........sorry to hear about your situation Ciara. Two good points have been aired in this thread.
#1 Some guys are totally clueless as to their responsibility to keep their providers safe. I believe they think safety is only the fact that they didn't beat the crap out of you. Safety also includes 100% discretion for the protection of both parties.
#2 This is going to go over like a lead balloon but, why doesn't TER's review staff reject stuff like that? They rightfully so, reject reviews that have a slanderous tone or are totally destructive. Why not reject ones that reveal "TMI" about the providers ID?
I don't get it.
I happen to have (like many people do now) a very good GPS system that has pretty much routed me to anywhere I have wanted to go.
In cases where the woman does not want to give me a specific address until I am near the incall, that is perfectly fine, as long as it is a location that I can route to.
I happen to prefer to use my GPS system to get somewhere because the routes given to me are either too complicated (Take three rights and two lefts), to simple (Get off on exit xx and then call me from the gas station), or just plain useless (Take a right where you see the building that looks like a ??) Furthermore with my GPS system, I can get an idea how long it will take to get to the almost final meeting place.
Pretty much every woman I see wants to give me directions like "Take the third right, then the second left, etc.." I ask her for an address (or if she is not comfortable with her specific one, a nearby address), and type it into the GPS while in the car, and drive knowing that I will arrive correctly.
But I guess I am a minority among men. I am not afraid to ask for directions when I am in fact lost. But of course that does not happen anymore.
Pop a smoke!! Colored star clusters!!
The funny thing is that my new portable GPS does not even give Lat and Long at all. I guess they did that to make it easy to use.
However, I give the exact address and directions to my Incall. I have a specific direction page I email to the guy after I've checked his references and we confirm the appointment. There shouldn't be any guessing on his part, honey. Mapquest is incorrect in my area and I tell the guys that, but do they listen (even when they have a well-mapped out list in front of them)?
They just want to find a better route. Guess what? There isn't one.
Hugs,
Ciara
of submissive men who aren't really men if they aren't every woman's White Knight, or actually answer a woman who is in the Universal Bitch mode?
What happens is a vicious cycle, and you can see it every day in family court: Woman has some laundry list of crazy complaints, and the whole court is thinking, when is she just going to STFU? And guess what? The man is defaulted. He's not even there. He KNOWS there's no way he can make her happy anyway, and isn't going to waste effort trying.
IMHO, it's not a gender thing, it's a human thing. You get the highest probability of education if you use both carrot and stick, and don't get excited by the fact that some people will never learn.
PS: Use more carrot than stick. It's MUCH better for business.
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 7:17:27 AM
And what the hell do you mean by "submissive men?" You can't make that argument with the level of spousal abuse in the "American culture."
That though, is a hijack.
A rant is a rant, and if I rant it's for a very good reason. Put yourself in my place and think of your family and privacy and then get back to me.
part of why you get paid such a high fee per hour is to manage the risk
its not our job to do that for you
Are you deaf, dumb and blind? What did I say previously about not giving out my information (not anything about my Incall)? The man gave out information I specificially asked him not to. He agreed and even thought I was nuts for asking him not to, because he said he would never do that, and then he does it. Now that's just dumb. What else is there to get? I can only protect my privacy and safety so far. I don't have control over a big mouth. And . . . what are you saying, "That's what I get paid the high bucks for." Are you nuts! Have you looked at my website and seen my reasonable rates for what I provide? Do you think I do this work everyday and make tons of money? What an ignorant assumption to make, and what a calice person you are. Since you're in the hobby and can supposedly afford it, shouldn't you be responsible is someone rats on you to your family? No! That's an awful thing to say to me. Never, and I mean "never" contact me. You're just the type of guy and scarey person we tried to avoid.
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 3:27:13 PM
but I know Ciara.
She has always made it a point to tell her gentlemen callers NOT to say ANYTHING about her incall location.
She has that right and anyone who sees her knows that and should respect her wishes.
This is an issue of trust, respect and discretion.
This person has had a total lack of all those.
Why someone thinks he needs to be that specific about her incall is totally beyond me.
Call me what you will, white knight, airhead, jerkoff, whatever.
Ciara is right in her concerns and has every right to voice her displeasure.
I hope the offending "gentleman" has the balls to apologize to her and correct the review.
If not, she should have every right to out him to any and all other ladies as someone who is not trustworthy and should be avoided.
Just my opinion...
B
Yet another reason I refuse reviews. I trust no-one with my privacy except me....OH and those whom I have info on.
It's unfortunate that in a enterprise based on intimacy, that we can't trust each other.
I, we, the gentlemen of this hobby, have to earn your trust.
It can take a long time and be difficult in some cases, but there are many guys who are discrete, know how to treat a lady, and are able to earn that trust.
When we do, it's very satisfying for both.
I hope that someday you will be able to meet someone you can begin to trust.
Just my opinion...
B
It's really a shame too, because the guy in question thought he was innocently sharing information to boost my place. Well, I don't need boosting. I know I have a great place and I am not hurting for business.
Unfortunately, because this has happened to me before this time it made me very angry, especially after telling the guy three times and in part of my directions to him not to say anything about my Incall, not about my subdivision, nothing. He looked at me --- like others do -- and said, "I would never say anything about someone's place." Well, guess what? He did, and although he didn't give the address, he might as well have because anything regarding my incall is being watched by LE and other jeolous providers. Talk is cheap but it's really gossip that gets people into trouble.
Now a very nice man is probably mad at me for ranting about this, but I don't care because he should have kept certain information to himself and I felt like I need to be firm to get my point across to other's in the hobbying world. Anyone who thought my post was rude, they can not visit me. I don't want men coming to see me who don't take me seriously about this issue. I have other work, too, so I don't need the money that bad.
Hugs,
Ciara
No one should ever reveal the location of ANY participant, whether hobbyist or provider. I don't know how it works in Phoenix, but in New York/New Jersey, it helps if the reviewer mentions the neighborhood, or the township, or the county, or the exit on the Garden State Parkway, but that's all. I once read a review for a lady in NYC, in which the reviewer actually mentioned the specific apartment building in which the provider lives and works -- how ridiculous is that?!
But I have to ask you two things: firstly, did TER already take down the offending review, because I don't see anything specific about your location in your current reviews? Secondly, you don't really believe with absolute certainty that LE and other providers are watching your location, do you? That sounds a little paranoid. I mean, sure it's possible, but not particularly likely, right?
Aug5, you know I like you but it doesn't matter what you think is threatening. It's what makes me feel uncomfortable. And yes, LE has been watching a few of our places. I have a few cop friends, my dear. Now did I really a have to explain that to you? Thanks for making me have to explain. Also, my directions state specifically not to mention anything about my place, etc. I don't need to explain to you or anyone else about the specifics. You'll just have to trust me that I was correct on this one. I am so done here. Maybe you should be in my shoes.
Hugs,
Ciara
Over the years there seems to be many threads/posts as to how inportant discretion is and everyone always agrees.
NOW for whatever reason some seem to think it is not that important
Well Ciara has a very valid point and
IT IS A BIG DEAL
and you can take that to the BANK
Thank You
....because I absolutely get the point of your frustration and rant, and respect the humor and intellect in your posts in general. This is at least the second or third time you have posted here asking reviewers not to include details of location in the review. Which is something I agree should be fairly obvious to even the most intellectually challenged hobbyist.
With that said, am I the only one that finds it a bit ironic that your post that complains about disclosing details of your incall location making it easy to locate, also points out that you can't find the place even with the address and Mapquest? Seems like a pretty secure incall location to me. (OK that was the humor portion of this post)
Hopefully one day I can find my way there.
Hugs back at ya
BDM
I said "I give great directions to my place" and "in BOLD tell my clients not to mention certain things about my place." Mapquest just doesn't have the correct directions out here for anything. I only want to give directions when I have a definite appointment with someone and have confirmed their references. I also ask that they don't give out my location in backchanneling because I don't even want other providers to know my locale. Is that so friggin' difficult to understand? I certainly enjoy your humor, but I do think you need to reread my what I've written. I swear this is a totally hopeless cause for most of you guys.
Hugs,
Ciara
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 5:15:55 PM
The all important gist of Ciara's initial post was to highlight how important it is to protect personal information and to abstain from disclosing such confidential info in public domains such as reviews and/or message boards. I did acknowledge my understanding and total agreement with this point in each of my replies as well as in my private PM exchange with Ciara.
My issue, and hindsight being 20/20 I should have let it go as it is not as important as her main point, surrounded the inclusion of the direction mishap within the same post. A breach of discretion is a real and serious threat to someone's safety and well-being. Screwing up directions and arriving tardy is a royal pain in the ass. In my opinion the former is a grievous offense while the latter is a far less harmful annoyance. Upon first read I likened the inclusion of each within Ciara's rant as someone saying 'People who drive impaired should suffer the most severe consequences of the law and that also includes those inconsiderate drivers who park within two spaces in a crowded parking lot'. Unfortunately despite Ciara's greater point and understanding her right and need to vent, I focused on this aspect of the post. Truth be told I still hold my opinion but in circumspect I realize I'm likely being stubborn and causing undue agitation to Ciara who is already greatly stressed.
And so I took a moment to apologize via PM to Ciara for increasing her stress about the situation and the thread. As much as I may still believe I made a valid point and also had a right to do so, it was clearly secondary to her more important point and to me it is not important for me to uphold my thoughts at the expense of increasing Ciara's angst.
I will also express admiration for Ciara in terms of where she could have gone with her anger. She did not cave in to what was surely a temptation to out private and personal information about the offending client. She has maintained discretion and professionalism on this count despite not getting the same in return and I commend her for it. Again sorry if I piled on Ciara and twisted the knife needlessly.
-- Modified on 10/31/2007 1:08:29 PM
What a bunch of MORONS !!
I am SO sorry this is happening to you..
However, if people are talking about you, it must mean you are doing something right !!
I hope this all passes.. and I do not blame you for ranting one bit !!