This is a standard line, practiced and recited by strip club and brothel owners, and ladies who work there. They are constantly accused of exploiting women, and it has become a common, standard response to say, "no, we're exploiting men." The response is designed to throw off accusations of abusing women. I agree that it's rude and demeaning to we, the clients, and shouldn't be used, but I've heard it over and over, time and time and time again. Three times, I've heard it.
This guy knew what he was saying, and meant it to be the sound byte.
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I saw a news piece yesterday on this bordello outside Carson City NV. Ruby (a former porn actress) was interviewed and was very candid about how much she enjoyed the biz, as were some of the other ladies. The inevitable "reformed" hooker, in this case a decidedly unattractive, former San Fran street walker, played devils advocate in her new role as social worker.
Let me say that any lady who makes this choice of career, under her own free will, has my utmost respect, but I'd also say that I am not the least bit interested in seeing a s$x worker who is working the street, in any way coerced, threatened, pimped, feeding a drug habit or any other addiction.
The thing that I found particularly distasteful though about this piece was when the owner was asked if his "ladies" were being exploited. He made the comment that it was the men (i.e. the clients that are making his business very profitable) that were the ones being exploited. How they worked hard all week to come in and drop all that hard earned dough on one of his ladies.
Memo to bordello owner, change your ad campaign and your attitude before you drive potential clients away in droves. There are plenty of men who feel shameful about contracting a prostitute (I am not one of them) and that line of reasoning is particularly insulting. I did notice a huge banner for a Kathy Willets appearance at this particular brothel, and apparently Sunset Thomas is a regular porn star feature there. I am not a big fan of brothels, but any idea that I had of visiting the "ranch" on my upcoming Reno trip, was shot squarely in the ass by this moronic owner. Having said that, I did register for the ranch's free s$x contest on this site though, so call me a hypocrite. MfSD.
Go easy on the owner. I once did an interview with Good Morning America in which I knew I was going to be the evil, uncaring corporate asshole. They taped over an hour of interviews, then used just 15 seconds, out of context, in the show. And that was after I'd been coached on what to expect by a media consultant the day before for 6+ hours. I'm not surprised that the bordello operator gave MSNBC something it could use for the slant they'd already decided to put on the story.
very often lead to one mistake after the other.
In the life of this particular Schlong, there have been serious, if harmless and humorous, errors in stories about moi in Time, Life, the NY Times, and quite a few in books.
All came about because of the "rush" to get a story out before some other publication. Newsweek and the W Post were the exceptions that almost always seemed to get it right. They also seemed more deliberate and careful.
I'm just glad they don't cover my reviews of naughty women! LOL
You are so right that they write the story in their heads before the interview, and seem rarely to learn anything, especially the TV newspeople.
Oh well, back to the vixens.
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Apparently you did not see the piece VA Gent? I stand by what I said. MfSD.
No didn't see it, but I'm not surprised the guy put his foot in his mouth. Just saying that what you saw might be a few seconds taken out of context from hours of filming. That is the modus operandi of 60 minutes and other similar"news" shows.
But it wouldn't surprise me that he went into this interview unprepared, is a complete idiot and deserves to see his business go broke as a result. As long as I get to meet Sunset Thomas, who I have had the hots for since seeing her in some Andrew Blake films.
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Well he may have been unprepared for the question, but he ceratinly wasn't unaware. No way does this owner let news cameras in to his place without knowing about it in advance. Hours of filming, I'm guessing not, at least in the case of the owner. Most of the piece (and rightfully so) was focused on the ladies in the biz.
He overreacted to an exploitation question about his female employees and said something insulting about his clients. I have encountered males before who had a condescending attitude about men that employed escorts.
Even encountered once in the boyfriend of a now retired, but then very popular Tampa escort. I told him where he could shove his attitude and also told him that if he wanted his "woman" to make the 900 we had agreed to, he best get her over to my hotel. He fell in to line very quickly.
I don't want to make more out of this than there is. But the Bunny Ranch is running a contest on this site, not just to give away freebees, but to draw interest and clients to their business. I for one would not visit this establishment now, and would have to decline the prize if I won their contest. MfSD.
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This is a standard line, practiced and recited by strip club and brothel owners, and ladies who work there. They are constantly accused of exploiting women, and it has become a common, standard response to say, "no, we're exploiting men." The response is designed to throw off accusations of abusing women. I agree that it's rude and demeaning to we, the clients, and shouldn't be used, but I've heard it over and over, time and time and time again. Three times, I've heard it.
This guy knew what he was saying, and meant it to be the sound byte.
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anything that I consider to be insulting or condescending to me the consumer, I simply move on, or don't stop to purchase. I have reached a station in life where I have enough discretionary income and free time to play. I don't need some jack ass while obstensibly defending his employees on one hand, and insulting his clients on the other, to be part of any business transaction that I'm involved in.
Whether this owner's answer is a standard response to these type accusations, I do not know and frankly is of no concern to me. Another reason why I stick with quality, well reviewed independent ladies. MfSD.
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if that’s “insulting” enough to consider a boycott.
When you have joined Kitty on a 22-year-old thread.
Oops!
LOL - but how do you even stumble over responding to some 22 year old thread? A search problem or something?
It's actually much simpler.
See the pagination on the bottom of the page for a forum?
Well if you click on the last page (page 1865) you will go to posts from 22 years ago. One easy click. And then I'd imagine if youre tired/not sober/not paying attention you could just think that the topic list is current and start replying.
Typically I imagine people don't use the feature much because there aren't enough new posts so people don't really go through pages of threads.
I've done that and jumped around the threads a few times just to see what was going on back then.
Didn't respond to the thread, just read through them.
Brought it up before that they were bitching about the same things you can see on the threads now!
I always did like history!
still alive? Just curious. Lol
We make our own choices in life
Brothel pimp, better than the street pimp ?....Maybe, at least some are in terms of the treatment of their girls, but still a pimp.
Same could be said about agency owners.
Again, acknowledging that treatment of the girls varies, as well as the level of control exercised.
I am curious as far as what percentage of the fee for services is actually due to the SW herself in these 2 cases, and how that might vary.