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Hobbyist would you give a hooker a JOB in your company.
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To do the job, who gives a damn who you fuck or for how much as long as it doesn't affect the business you are being hired in?  In fact, for Real Estate it might be an asset!  Just don't flaunt it around the Bible thumpers and you're good to go!

In fact, my ultimate goal is to staff my biz with 99.9% gorgeous providers (at least for the sales department) if the recruiting process was entirely up to me. Unfortunately, I don't have sole power over that (and maybe that's a good thing).  But it's any guy's dream to be in a company full of gorgeous / fun women. :D

My reasoning would be that providers are in a business that deal with people on an intimate level day to day and would be more or less ideal for a sales role where image & looks are a factor.  

On the other hand, I do try to avoid hiring evangelical bible thumpers. I prefer to work with people who are highly scientific in their reasoning and thinking

I would give friend a job even if she were ex hooker, and if I had such a clout..  

The point is that the relationship will have to transition from John- Hooker relationship to a Friend-Friend relationship..

And quite honestly, do you even want to work for someone who is an client. Just imagine how many ways this can get screwed up.

And definitely don't start out by fucking your boss. That would never end well.

Posted By: ZoePiers
At 1000$ an hour, i am EXTREMELY low volume though steady enough to afford a decent lifestyle, and i meet very wealthy men; business owners and the likes. I am ambitious and always on a look out for opportunities.  
   
 I am considering taking CA Real Estate test and hope to land a job with one of the top agencies selling  multi-million dollar homes.  But i wonder, would any of my clients take me seriously should i request them for a job.  
   
 I sincerely love the aspect of entertaining, and I think i will always be coz my main motivation is not just the money. I  love giving pleasure.  
   
 Hobbyist would you take a chance and employ a hooker? a good hooker with the smarts and the goods...  
   
 zp  

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GaGambler876 reads

My only apprehension in hiring a stripper, hooker etc is whether or not they can maintain a "real" but lower paying job through thick and thin.

This was the problem with the last ex provider I hired, she ran into financial problems and asked if she could go back to escorting temporarily to get back on her feet and then come back to work for me, not understanding that I am not General Motors and that she would be leaving me in the lurch with no one to do her job while she was gone.

I had to put my foot down and tell her if she left, she would have to stay gone and her job would not be waiting for her when she "got on her feet" I can't have people working for me who's top priority lies somewhere else and who know deep down they can always go back to being a hooker if they need to make more money.

Other than that, yes I would be more than willing to hire an ex hooker, as long as she had a sincere desire to change professions and not just as a break from escorting. Not on any kind of moral basis, I don't judge that way, but strictly from a business standpoint.

As for taking you seriously, I take serious people seriously, If I thought someone was serious about doing business with me as an employee or otherwise, having been a hooker would have zero bearing on my decision.

Dear Gambler:
If it didn't perjoratively effect your business, would you let them supplement their income in the adult world or would it be too much of a risk if it is a high profile company to let anyone whose is currently in your employ work as an adult companionship provider?

GaGambler874 reads

I am already "out" as a whore monger, it would be quite hypocritical of me to discriminate because of the possibility of bad press, quite frankly I don't care what others think about my whore mongering or the morality of having a hooker working for me.

My only concern is whether or not their job with me is their first concern. It's tough to compete with a "Part time job" that pays a grand an hour. As long as her focus is on her job while on my clock, it would not be an issue for me.

Dear Gambler:
If you just look at it from the dollars and cents, you can't. However if you look at it for the benefits and pension, then you would have an effective argument. Also where would they be able to get into the mainstream economy with a wage that is as close to what they were making in the underground economy.  Also how many have any wealth building plans where they would be putting a significant amount of loot away as well? Granted there are some but not as many as you would think who are making revenue at that rate. Henceforth although some women would leave for the money, that is the only thing they have to gain versus yourself who is a mainstream employer who is closer to being accepted by mainstream society.  Not to mention, they don't have to cover up certain facts to continue in the hiring process with yourself as opposed to several other employers who wouldn't be as fair with them.

Posted By: GaGambler
My only apprehension in hiring a stripper, hooker etc is whether or not they can maintain a "real" but lower paying job through thick and thin.

This was the problem with the last ex provider I hired, she ran into financial problems and asked if she could go back to escorting temporarily to get back on her feet and then come back to work for me, not understanding that I am not General Motors and that she would be leaving me in the lurch with no one to do her job while she was gone.

I had to put my foot down and tell her if she left, she would have to stay gone and her job would not be waiting for her when she "got on her feet" I can't have people working for me who's top priority lies somewhere else and who know deep down they can always go back to being a hooker if they need to make more money.

Other than that, yes I would be more than willing to hire an ex hooker, as long as she had a sincere desire to change professions and not just as a break from escorting. Not on any kind of moral basis, I don't judge that way, but strictly from a business standpoint.

As for taking you seriously, I take serious people seriously, If I thought someone was serious about doing business with me as an employee or otherwise, having been a hooker would have zero bearing on my decision.

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I wouldn't hold having been or currently being q sex worker as a issue if one was seeking employment if she was qualified. But know the provider/client relationship would end if the lady ended up in my legal employ.

Only problem is the money aspect. You are more likely to make more escorting than anything in the real world. RE is California is VERY competitive, so you would need an ideal situation.

Posted By: ZoePiers
At 1000$ an hour, i am EXTREMELY low volume though steady enough to afford a decent lifestyle, and i meet very wealthy men; business owners and the likes. I am ambitious and always on a look out for opportunities.  
   
 I am considering taking CA Real Estate test and hope to land a job with one of the top agencies selling  multi-million dollar homes.  But i wonder, would any of my clients take me seriously should i request them for a job.  
   
 I sincerely love the aspect of entertaining, and I think i will always be coz my main motivation is not just the money. I  love giving pleasure.  
   
 Hobbyist would you take a chance and employ a hooker? a good hooker with the smarts and the goods...  
   
 zp  

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And you are looking for some entity to pay you $ 1k an hour for it?  Good luck with that...you'll need it.

BTW...real estate sales agents are paid on commission, with sometimes a small draw.  So get going and sell something and you can make whatever you can based on being productive.  If dressing up and prancing around gets the house(s) sold...who the fuck cares.  The name of the game there is to sell...and sell often and profitably.

But many try selling real estate, and few are really good at it.  If you think that just being pretty is the key...you'll learn eventually (and rather quickly) that isn't the deal.  It won't hurt if you are pretty...but certainly isn't going to sell the house.

As for taking a chance on anyone...I wouldn't care what they did prior to working for me so long as they could do the work I need done.  Just remember that it's a tough market today, and I don't see that trend reversing any time soon.

Posted By: ZoePiers
At 1000$ an hour, i am EXTREMELY low volume though steady enough to afford a decent lifestyle, and i meet very wealthy men; business owners and the likes. I am ambitious and always on a look out for opportunities.  
   
 I am considering taking CA Real Estate test and hope to land a job with one of the top agencies selling  multi-million dollar homes.  But i wonder, would any of my clients take me seriously should i request them for a job.  
   
 I sincerely love the aspect of entertaining, and I think i will always be coz my main motivation is not just the money. I  love giving pleasure.  
   
 Hobbyist would you take a chance and employ a hooker? a good hooker with the smarts and the goods...  
   
 zp  

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In college i worked for a major residential real estate company, leasing condos and got promoted after 1 year of employment. I was good at it. I can deliver.

After the debacle of 2007/2008 it was interesting to see which sales agents were in this for the long haul.  From my observations the only ones that stuck it out (and eventually reaped the short sale market) were those that were lifers.  All the Mom's that thought selling a house was easy were long gone.

I have a few good pals that have done quite well in the past couple of years...but they earned it by staying with this.

Those that didn't really want to work disappeared...probably a few of the Mom's are on these boards.  And running their ads hoping to make their own rent.

If you talk the talk...better be ready to walk the walk.

Posted By: ZoePiers
In college i worked for a major residential real estate company, leasing condos and got promoted after 1 year of employment. I was good at it. I can deliver.

GaGambler1045 reads

How many of those people had a part time $1,000 hr job to fall back on?

If I were a woman who could parlay connection developed through sex into so called "legitimate" ventures, you're damn right I would do it. Of course the trick is being able to fit into both worlds and having both skill sets to excel in both. Easier said than done, but those that can do it can do quite well for themselves.

But we both know that isn't the case.  If she was earning $ 1k/hr at a 40 hour a week/50 week job she would have something to boast about.  But the reality is that it's sporadic at best.  Few of these gals make any real money....let alone keep any of it.

The difference is that working towards a career goal (as in realty) takes a ton of effort.  The reality would be if she could sell $ 3M (In LA that could be one or two houses....easily) at a commission rate of 3% (assuming sharing with the agency) she'd be making quite a bit more doing that than the occasional hooking gig.

And she wouldn't have to be looking over her shoulder all the time.

Posted By: GaGambler
How many of those people had a part time $1,000 hr job to fall back on?

If I were a woman who could parlay connection developed through sex into so called "legitimate" ventures, you're damn right I would do it. Of course the trick is being able to fit into both worlds and having both skill sets to excel in both. Easier said than done, but those that can do it can do quite well for themselves.

GaGambler754 reads

Selling two or three $2,000,000 houses a year wouldn't be much to brag on, but selling even one a month would be a pretty decent living.

and I stand by the rest of my post, "IF" a woman can have a foot in both worlds, good for her. I realize that the vast majority cannnot

affiliated with being a hooker. I know several real estate agents and brokers for that matter who fk clients to get sales, but they have never advertised themsevles so publicly or by the hour. Much like a Pharm Rep (another thing you might consider), it's done on the sly. I made over 100k  a year by the second year working for a major drug company, and no degree was required, though I had one.  

Companies with respect to reputation are not going to hire anyone who lacks the common sense to be discreet about an illegal business. It's a character flaw to think you are above the law just because you don't 'think' there is anything wrong with doing this. My current boss knows a bit about my past, but he also did enough research to know there was nothing that could connect my persona to my real identity... that's all that matters, in addition to having the education and skills required.  

Getting a license to sell houses is not exactly heavy shit... most anyone can pass that test and the course is roughly 3 months if you go 3 times a week. I can't really see anyone hiring an escort who was oblivious to be their CFO.

deadagain5873 reads

Substance abuse, and mental problems would preclude me from hiring a prostitute. Common sense tells me not to even bother.

GaGambler887 reads

and even if he did, you are damaged beyond repair simply by ever having been a prostitute and you are most likely a drug abuser and possibly borderline psychotic to boot, and therefore unfit to ever re enter civilized society again.

Sheesh, and guys like me, Nicky, CPA et al are considered the assholes here.

Posted By: bjornagain5
Substance abuse, and mental problems would preclude me from hiring a prostitute. Common sense tells me not to even bother.

GaGambler1249 reads

I bet you he secretly hates even himself for having to "lower himself" to sleep with a prostitute because his old fat wife won't put out.

I guess it takes all kinds in this business. On the one side you have the sappy, but clueless and naïve types like Roddy Tardwell, and on the other side you have the hateful, bitter, spiteful types like this guy who most likely hates all women. I like to think of myself somewhere in the middle ground, that is when I think about this kind of stuff at all. It really must suck for this guy though, can you imagine not only having sex, but paying to have sex with women that so repulse you as human beings? Oh well, sucks to be him, and besides SOMEONE has to make the likes of me look good, right?

deadagain5820 reads

You probably wouldn't qualify on more the one level. Even the janitorial staff is checked out. You may qualify to work in a hobbyist's restaurant but not in my field

Are you in Real Estate?  

I may not qualify but........ whats the relationship with janitorial staff and hobbyists restaurant?  

Posted By: bjornagain5
You probably wouldn't qualify on more the one level. Even the janitorial staff is checked out. You may qualify to work in a hobbyist's restaurant but not in my field  
 

A whoremonger and fuck board poster.  

Yes, rigorous and thorough verification of qualifications and risks indeed.  

I could use a janitor at my business. No BG check required. Interested?

On second thought... forget it. Who needs an arrogant janitor?

Does the same apply to you? In addition, add lying, cheating, and lack of integrity to the list of why someone might never hire a hobbyist to do shit. Not every hobbyist... just an idiot like you. I have no criminal record, and I probably have a higher degree than you do, even though you likely have more work experience because you're 20 years older.  

News flash dumbass... I am a RETIRED escort, currently working for a global firm, and though I don't make 1k a day, I don't need to. Some things are worth more than easy money.  Looks like your theory has as many holes as your vapid brain does.  

Maybe if you actually spent more money on the hookers you do patron, your opinion would not be so skewed of them as a whole. Sorry, about your bad experiences with desperate, clueless, uneducated morons, but don't project that igorance on all of them. That's ALL you are doing, btw... projecting the caliber of women you have met, on all of them in the business. Many escorts were working a long term job before coming here... many had degrees, and got another one whilst doing this. Gosh, you truly are a fkin idiot.  

Posted By: bjornagain5
Substance abuse, and mental problems would preclude me from hiring a prostitute. Common sense tells me not to even bother.
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Smokinggun877 reads

I'm in the mortgage/real estate business and I would hire you if you could get the job done, make me money, and please my clients.  I could careless if you could fuck or suck dick better than the others.   Now if I'm going to see you as a provider....you better be able to fuck and suck dick better then the civvie girls I date  :  ;)

If she had the skills no question. I need people that have drive and a strong work ethic. Those, in combination with more directly related skills in my field, are not so easy to come by. If a provider can do the job I'd definitely hire her.

I wouldn't suggest putting hooker on your resume either.  As far as real estate sales, you'd have to earn your bones just like everyone else in the shop.  I don't know too many realty business owners that would put a rookie having just gotten a sellers license, on a million dollar account.  That would be silly.  Especially in California, being good looking and smart is no guarantee of sky rocketing to the top, unless you have the training and experience to go with it.  

If you have all that I would have no problem hiring you and I doubt I would even know you were once a hooker.  Would I hire a lady that I was seeing as an escort?  No way in hell.  The liability risk of getting sued by her or her coemployees on a quid pro quo discrimination suit is just too high.  There's an old tried and true axiom in business practice:  "You don't shit where you eat."

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I am banking on relationships, sometimes even with the experience and training without knowing the right people it can be difficult to get ahead. I think as long as i prove myself competent and can deliver i should be awarded the chance.



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As if you're entitled to something...you are NOT.

As I posted earlier there are many wannabes in the realty business.  STFU and work at it for a few years, show the firm that you're serious and can actually close a deal.  

No one is "awarded" shit in life...try earning it!

Posted By: ZoePiers
I am banking on relationships, sometimes even with the experience and training without knowing the right people it can be difficult to get ahead. I think as long as i prove myself competent and can deliver i should be awarded the chance.

I'm guessing you could sell ice cubes to eskimos if you set your mind to it.

Up to a couple of weeks ago I had a different opinion about the idea of hiring a provider.

The thing that changed my mind was part of a thread where a provider commented on her experiences with porn. It occurred to me that although providers might be very astute businesswomen, and indeed one can pretty safely assert that most of the successful ones are, AND that aside from the service per se they may have multiple skills and talents, there is an attitude in an EMPLOYEE-- one working a job or completing a task for a company-- that the lifestyle seems to grind out of women who are providers.

Granted, this might not be true of everyone, but it I'd be reluctant to "employee" a provider.

On the other hand, If approached by a woman who was or is still a provider who now was an independent contractor seeking to join forces in the completion of a project, I'd have a much different attitude.

No but I took a hooker to my job 1 wkend and boy did she give me a job, lot less then 1000$ too. So in reality I guess I did put her to work at my office. LoL

Two common occupations of part-time providers.  Real estate runs hot and cold and health care workers often get paid quite poorly.  Except for emergency room nurses - they love the excitement.

HooktardGold1118 reads

It is truly the easiest way to moonlight as a provider because you are paid to travel, your room is paid for, etc. Just don't show your face or give yourself away in your ads lol. You will spend most of your time fkin doctors for major money, so I doubt the chump change providers make would be as appealing. Having guys pay you 10k a month on average for fkin them once a week, is a lot easier than having to use Eros to charge by the hour.

I have hired providers and dancers (strip club) before. They were well educated but were highly intelligent. As long as they can do the job, who cares?

I am sure this happens quite often without anyone knowledge. Don’t believe it shows up on reference checks!

I also know of a few providers who retired because they got their dream jobs

Not all that unusual

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